Well-Actually War Trall Spidweb Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I finally announced Avadon 2. The page is here ... http://www.spiderwebsoftware.com/avadon2/index.html It's been a long slow slog getting this game up and running, but we're finally making good progress. I think it'll have a lot of improvements over the first one. The pacing is a lot better, especially in the early game. It doesn't take as long for interesting things to start happening. I'm putting in a lot of desired tweaks. You will be able to enter zones from multiple directions (you can enter a zone through any exit you have reached). I'm evaluating giving more skill points as the game progresses to loosen up skills you can train a little. There is a fifth character class, and male and female versions of all characters are available. The game won't be out until Fall, and I'm shooting for a simultaneous Mac and Windows release. We're going to try to be on Steam again, of course. And many thanks to all the fans who helped Avadon to be a huge success for us. Without you, Avadon 2 would never happen. Thank you! - Jeff Vogel RaustBlackDragon, adc. and Tridon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 This is all sounding really positive so far. Here's hoping for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm shooting for a simultaneous Mac and Windows release. That's the best part. And really curious about the fifth class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm going to miss the whining of the Windows users about it not being out. The improvements sound great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 There is a fifth character class, and male and female versions of all characters are available. It's been a long time coming in Spiderweb games, but I'm glad to see it happened. Everything else sounds great, too; I'm sure this is going to be an amazing sequel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk adc. Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Just recently saw it on Facebook. Just 7 months of waiting. That's not a problem, especially when real-life accelerates your 3-month vacation and 2 day weekends. ------------ -Test Subject 8552 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Zelos Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Awesooooome!~ ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Mad Genius Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm going to miss the whining of the Windows users about it not being out. In that case we can start whining because of the windows version getting released at the same time of the mac one. :D :D Just kidding. Anyway, great news! I'm really curious about that fifth class. By the look of the character rooster on screenshots it appears there are some new avatars and/or more polished ones. Lucky me there are some cool games coming out in March to make it less torturing to wait for Avadon 2. And yes, bring it to Steam, pretty please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Painted Lady Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm curious about the pacing of the beta testing. Normally, the Mac version is released before the Windows and iPad versions start testing. Looks like we are going to have some overlap this time. Gives me shivers just to think about how much fun this is going to be......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt BMA Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm going to miss the whining of the Windows users about it not being out. Mmmf. Consoling my fellow feeling-secondary Windows users on the Mac release was getting to be rather enjoyable. Still, not complaining of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Dang, Redbeard looks pretty ticked off. Looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 There is a fifth character class, and male and female versions of all characters are available. Yay! The game won't be out until Fall, and I'm shooting for a simultaneous Mac and Windows release. Woohoo! Dikiyoba. nikki. and BMA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora enroxorz Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 First, I want to say I am new to this forum and joined just so I can ask this question. I loved Avadon on my tablet (Android). Being the first real CRPG on that platform (that reminds me of the good old days of gaming) I found it had a great interface and was just plain ol' fun. Are there plans to bringing this to Android as well? If not, would you consider a kickstarter to get it ported over? I love playing Avadon 1 on my table, and would love to play 2 there as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 won't get ported to Android (or Linux) by SW and due what problems Android-port caused its unlikely there'll be Avadon 2 for Android (or Linux). I'm skeptical that all 3 versions come out at same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I'm skeptical that all 3 versions come out at same time. The iPad version might come out later (because the iPad versions of other Spiderweb games are only available at the iTunes App Store), but if Jeff is distributing games through Steam and other places now, it makes sense to release the Mac and Windows versions at the same time, even if the Mac version is finished first. Dikiyoba hopes simultaneous releases will be the end of any differences between versions, like the drayk damage type in G4. Apparently, drayks do physical damage on the Mac version, but fire damage on Windows. Game strategy shouldn't change depending on whether you are playing on a Mac or PC (or iPad, now). nikki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 This will mean that the Windows version will no longer start with all the bug fixes that regular players catch with the Mac version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody The Reverend Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 This will mean that the Windows version will no longer start with all the bug fixes that regular players catch with the Mac version. Although, maybe the mac version will have fewer bugs initially because there will presumably be more people beta-testing prior to the release (since he'll have two versions to beta-test). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Enraged Slith Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Fill me with your magic, Jefe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora nasenbaer Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The game won't be out until Fall, and I'm shooting for a simultaneous Mac and Windows release. We're going to try to be on Steam again, of course. A long wait, but it's definitely worth the time gnawing on my nails. Are you going to release the game on gog.com too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Painted Lady Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Although, maybe the mac version will have fewer bugs initially because there will presumably be more people beta-testing prior to the release (since he'll have two versions to beta-test). Actually there will be three versions - Mac, PC and iPad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Avadon Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Day one instabuy for Avadon 2 on the iPad here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Are you going to release the game on gog.com too? why new game could be bought from there too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt BMA Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 There's no reason why the service shouldn't suddenly begin to distribute newer titles also. Edit : Well, apparently it already has begun doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 There's no reason why the service shouldn't suddenly begin to distribute newer titles also. Edit : Well, apparently it already has begun doing it. Yeah, and isn't A:EftP on there? That's not exactly what I'd call an "old game"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I find it hilarious that there are sort-of parallel discussions on this forum and in General over this announcement. The idea of interesting stuff happening early sounds nice - I found the demo of Avadon decidedly on the boring side. I also really hope the new game gives more meaningful choices than its predecessor offered. From what I read on here, it seems like the first game offered a fair number of "choices" that had little to no meaningful impact on the game, or offered relatively constrictive choices reminiscent of G3. I suppose if one desires chiefly to inculcate cynicism and a sense of futility, perhaps this will be effective, but I don't find it conducive to enjoyment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish corallus Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 This is super awesomeo news Jeff and team! xD In facts prolly the best news I have heard all year Callie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Yeah, and isn't A:EftP on there? That's not exactly what I'd call an "old game"> According to Wikipedia, the company is just gog.com now, rather than Good Old Games. Kind of like what happens to most TV channels, but not as ridiculous. Dikiyoba. nikki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 According to Wikipedia, the company is just gog.com now, rather than Good Old Games. Kind of like what happens to most TV channels, but not as ridiculous. Dikiyoba. I just wasn't made for these times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Avadon 1 and Avernum 1-6 are there but no Escape From The Pit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Ah, this makes me happy. Like hearing a good friend will come to visit again soon. All our lurv, Jeff <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 SOoooooooooooooooo happy there's going to be a simultaneous release. Good luck Jeff, you've only been getting better in your cranky old age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Kennedy Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 A question about lock picking. Will it be pooled over the entire party like in the new Avernums? Or will my character have to find special items to raise their ability to open the tougher locks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I'm guessing it will remain the same as the previous Avadon, but one can't be definite before the game release actually happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 most likely stays same since Avadon and Avernum are different type of games, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Kennedy Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 As I recall the lockpicking skills were also capped at 4, will this also still be the case or will the cap possibly be raised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I don't think anyone knows that yet. The game is not even in beta. Jeff doesn't watch the forums much, and even if he saw your question, he probably wouldn't answer it at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 As I recall the lockpicking skills were also capped at 4. what do you mean with that? my party's main char has 9 unlocl charm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Kennedy Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 what do you mean with that? my party's main char has 9 unlocl charm. Well it's been a while since I played so I could be wrong, but I thought that lockpicking was one one of those non branch skills that didn't go up to 10? Though there were some special items that would also raise it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Lock picking went to 4 with an item for +1. Harder difficulty required lock picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 The limit might go up, but I wouldn't count on it. I think the reason for the low cap was two-fold. One, it ensured that lockpicks remained a meaningful resource to manage throughout the game. Two, it solved a problem that Jeff observed in Geneforge: some players would focus on non-combat skills to such a degree that they crippled their parties, found the game unplayable, and stopped. He wanted to guide people away from doing that. —Alorael, who thinks that's especially important in Avadon. At least Geneforge nominally offered many non-combat solutions to problems. Avadon is really back to killing things. If you can't kill things you can't play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila GameJunkie Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I am so happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I suppose it's probably easier to write the plot if you don't have to come up with alternative paths that don't involve head-on assaults for every problem, but I really liked the leadership / mechanics alternative solutions in the Geneforge series. Sad that Avadon lacks anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Kennedy Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Is there any chance of a built in character editor being included like what was done in Avernum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Is there any chance of a built in character editor being included like what was done in Avernum? unlikely if there'll be possibilty to retrain chars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Ceiling Durkheim Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Well, count me pleased in pretty much all respects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Given the rev-up time it took to even make it to the announcement, I can't help but think some very dramatic improvements are in store for this series. Not that Avadon was by any means bad, but now instead of having to build a story world and game engine from scratch, all that time can be leveraged into refinement and improvement. Plus each time Jeff has the benefit of past experience. A larger game firm may swap out developers on a whim, but Spiderweb never loses experience - it only gains. Ceiling Durkheim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody madrigan Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I want you to know, I upgraded my Mac to 10.6 just so I could play this game. It only cost $20 and about two hours, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Cmiller Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Hey guys, i just thought I'd throw this out there, Do you think the final boss will be as, let's say, painful as it was in the first Avadon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Hey guys, i just thought I'd throw this out there, Do you think the final boss will be as, let's say, painful as it was in the first Avadon. it'll be worse since some of us defeated him last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Painted Lady Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 it'll be worse since some of us defeated him last time. The emphasis is on "some." I wonder what percentage of players got through Redbeard on their first playthrough. I certainly did not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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