Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 few percentages I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody madrigan Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Will there be accessibility options? To make game text larger, for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 doubt that since other games don't have it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody madrigan Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 A:EFtP does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Then I expect it to be included as well. Jeff's engines are similar enough that he's probably copying upgrades back and forth. —Alorael, who also can't imagine getting the brownie points for accessibility and then taking it away. That's bad PR. Jeff's usually more astute than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora tonybrooklyn Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I want to play this on the new iPad mini 2 (or whatever they will call it) that I intend to buy. This will mean refraining from the Mac version, which will come out first before the iPad version. Will I explode? I can't rule it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I want to play this on the new iPad mini 2 (or whatever they will call it) that I intend to buy. This will mean refraining from the Mac version, which will come out first before the iPad version. Will I explode? I can't rule it out! Jeff is aiming for a simultaneous release - no waiting, and no exploding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 most likely not in same day or might not even week but in same month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Why? I'm expecting beta in parallel, maybe even finally using code that doesn't require so much porting. If he's going to release "simultaneously," I think he's going to actually have the versions available at the same time. Or at least plan on it. —Alorael, who could see a last-minute game-stopping bug in one OS holding up that version only. It's not the plan, though, from the way Jeff has described it in very few words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Painted Lady Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Why? I'm expecting beta in parallel, maybe even finally using code that doesn't require so much porting. If he's going to release "simultaneously," I think he's going to actually have the versions available at the same time. One big problem is the difference between the two mouse versions and the iPad version. For example, all instructions have to be changed from "right click..." to "touch your finger...", etc . And, the sun icon that allows you to use an inventory item in the Mac and PC versions actually has no iPad equivalent. Touching an item on the iPad pulls up a mini-menu allowing you to manipulate said item. Fly-specking the iPad version just to remove the mouse references is a big job. And, there were definitely some platform specific bugs found during the beta for Avernum:EftP. Those realities make me wonder how simultaneous the iPad beta can be with the other two. The waiting is just killing me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody The Reverend Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 One big problem is the difference between the two mouse versions and the iPad version. For example, all instructions have to be changed from "right click..." to "touch your finger...", etc . And, the sun icon that allows you to use an inventory item in the Mac and PC versions actually has no iPad equivalent. Touching an item on the iPad pulls up a mini-menu allowing you to manipulate said item. Fly-specking the iPad version just to remove the mouse references is a big job. And, there were definitely some platform specific bugs found during the beta for Avernum:EftP. Those realities make me wonder how simultaneous the iPad beta can be with the other two. The waiting is just killing me..... I think a lot of those issues were already ironed out in Avadon 1 and A:EFTP. I'm sure he will be reusing a lot of the instructions, so things like "right-click" will have already been changed. That said, it would not surprise me if the Mac and Windows versions came out simultaneously, and the iPad version came out a couple (or a few) weeks later. This could still easily satisfy the "Fall 2013" target date he listed for all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Mairwen Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I just got finished playing Avadon HD on my iPad, and for me it was really the best game that the iPad has to offer. I played Exile years and years ago, and then forgot all about this company, so it was great to see that you're still going strong! I'm definitely going to buy the other games in the App Store. The only thing I can say that I was disappointed with, and which I really hope is addressed in the next game, is the effects of your decisions. In Avadon HD it just seemed that you were offered an illusion of choice that in the end didn't impact anything. I can't wait to see what happens next though, in spite of this. Hurry up, Spiderweb Software! Triumph 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Painted Lady Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I just got finished playing Avadon HD on my iPad, and for me it was really the best game that the iPad has to offer. ... I can't wait to see what happens next though, in spite of this. Hurry up, Spiderweb Software! IMHO there are a few more games you might want to try on the iPad. Namely, Avernum:EftP and Avernum 6 from SpiderWeb. These suggestions ought to keep you busy for quite a while - they are all wonderful RPGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Mairwen Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 IMHO there are a few more games you might want to try on the iPad. Namely, Avernum:EftP and Avernum 6 from SpiderWeb. These suggestions ought to keep you busy for quite a while - they are all wonderful RPGs. Sorry I probably wasn't making myself clear before! When I said "I'm definitely going to buy the other games in the App Store", I meant the other Spiderweb Software games! I've started playing Avernum: Escape from the Pit first, just because it had the same subtitle as Exile. I'm really enjoying this one a lot even if I haven't got very far yet. Are there plans to make Exile 2 and 3 into the new engine? How about the old Avernum games, because I've never played Avernum 4-6? At the very least it'd be neat if there were iPad versions made available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Avernum 1 to 3 are remakes of Exile 1 to 3 with added content, smaller parties, different spells, and a different game engine. Avernum 2: Crystal Souls will probably come out in 2014 as a remake of Avernum 2. The other Avernum games will eventually get remade. No word on whether older games will get ported to the iPad. It is easier to make new games than to fix older ones. Welcome to Spiderweb Software. Please leave your sanity at the door. Wait, you are buying Spiderweb games, it is already too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Painted Lady Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Sorry I probably wasn't making myself clear before! When I said "I'm definitely going to buy the other games in the App Store", I meant the other Spiderweb Software games! I've started playing Avernum: Escape from the Pit first, just because it had the same subtitle as Exile. I'm really enjoying this one a lot even if I haven't got very far yet. Are there plans to make Exile 2 and 3 into the new engine? How about the old Avernum games, because I've never played Avernum 4-6? At the very least it'd be neat if there were iPad versions made available. Jeff has already announced that Avernum: Crystal Souls (A2) is going to follow Avadon 2. And, it's pretty hard to imagine that Avernum 3 isn't also in line. That leaves Avernum 4-6, and A6 is already out for the iPad. It would seem that he might eventually put the entire Avernum universe out for the iPad community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Thynar Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Yay! How can I become a beta-tester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Yay! How can I become a beta-tester? Jeff posts a request for new testers in news with an application form about a month after beta testing with established insane beta testers start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Painted Lady Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Jeff posts a request for new testers in news with an application form about a month after beta testing with established insane beta testers start. The request is for testers for a specific platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Jeff has already announced that Avernum: Crystal Souls (A2) is going to follow Avadon 2. And, it's pretty hard to imagine that Avernum 3 isn't also in line. That leaves Avernum 4-6, and A6 is already out for the iPad. It would seem that he might eventually put the entire Avernum universe out for the iPad community. and A4 and A5 prolly require recoding so those can be played via ipad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Painted Lady Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 and A4 and A5 prolly require recoding so those can be played via ipad. Question - do A4 and A5 use the same engine A6 does? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Question - do A4 and A5 use the same engine A6 does? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 yea but A6 has better graphics than A5 and A5 has better graphs than A4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 yea but A6 has better graphics than A5 and A5 has better graphs than A4. Sort of. Each sequel tends to be better polished and have a slightly fancier UI than the stuff that came before it. For the most part though, the actual graphics of the game are more or less the same each time - Jeff will usually add a couple of new graphics, but until recently he was still using graphics from Exile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mosquito---Slayer Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I'd say that A5 and A6 are almost identical except for the way some items looks, A4 comparatively is a bit cruder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Painted Lady Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 If Jeff could port A6 to the iPad, then it shouldn't be all that difficult to port A4 and A5 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 sure he could port but that requires time which he hasn't since Avadon 2 is coming and when its finished it is almost time to start making Avernum 2 CS, A5 and A4 don't add anything necessary to Avernum-saga except final defeat of that mad Vahnatai (A4) and introduction of Darkside Loyalists and current leader of empire (A5). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Mairwen Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 sure he could port but that requires time which he hasn't since Avadon 2 is coming and when its finished it is almost time to start making Avernum 2 CS, A5 and A4 don't add anything necessary to Avernum-saga except final defeat of that mad Vahnatai (A4) and introduction of Darkside Loyalists and current leader of empire (A5). Well, Rentar-Ihrno is in the series from Exile 2, so her finally being defeated (thanks for the spoiler by the way!) would surely be a big deal! Also the Darkside Loyalists seem to be a big faction from what I see in the threads I read. I'm not sure Spiderweb, nor many people on these boards, would agree that two of the Exile/Avernum games (so 1/3 of the saga) is essentially pointless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 not pointless but not as much meaning as A6 (which totally spoils A5's plot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Valdain the King Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Jeff, all your base belong to us. Im serious, the whole Vogel team is full of awesome!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I wish we could get a subforum for specific games when they're announced, not just when they're released. We need space for guesswork and conspiracies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I wish we could get a subforum for specific games when they're announced, not just when they're released. We need space for guesswork and conspiracies. Well, that's more or less what this thread is for, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 but we don't know much atm so speculations are minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Speculation about Avadon: The Black Fortress. So there were a few things that happened in a different order, but Jeff's games are predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 You can't possibly put everything you wanna talk about concerning an upcoming Spidweb title in one thread. The subforum will be there anyway, why not just create it when it's announced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 We do, sometimes. We haven't yet for Avadon 2. The mysterious ways of the mods are not for the likes of mere mortals. Or maybe we just haven't gotten around to it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Thycavivor Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Anyone think Jeff will have boats in Avadon 2? I really liked getting to use rivers in the Avernum series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 unlikely that there'll be boats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora marcback Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Hi all ! Avadon (tbf) and Avernum Eftp are on Android. Why do you think Avadon 2 will not be ported ? Androids need games like that... What will I play at night while unable to find sleep ? Please save me from the sadness of the android play store and all those free to play games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Jeff isn't going to be making an Android version because he doesn't want to learn how to program for them. He may get a third party to do it like the other two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody The Reverend Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 like the other tow games. Like "Tow Truck Tycoon"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Don't knock it. Tow enough rich guys cars and you can retire on what they'll pay to get them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Since AEFTP came to android too its possible that Avadon 2 will come too but that's upto JV and that who made last 2 ports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk JamesMighty Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I promised I'd be back when Avadon 2 was releasedd, but when I saw it on Facebook, I couldn't resist coming back early. This is great! I can't wait to try out all five classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora docri Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 It was suggested that there will be no Linux port of this. I most certainly would buy a Linux version, as I am enjoying Avadon TBF very much! Out of curiosity: would it really be that hard to get this to Linux? After all Avadon TBF is ported and I guess the core engine is the same, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 The Linux port was done as part of the Humble Bundle sale. There has been no news on whether any other games will be ported to Linux. Welcome to Spiderweb Software. Please leave your sanity at the door. As a Linux user do you have any? close enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora docri Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Please leave your sanity at the door. As a Linux user do you have any? close enough Ha ha. I take it you are running FreeBSD. Or maybe OpenVMS? To answer your question: yes, I do have some sanity left, and in fact using Linux contributes to that. You know, it depends very much what you do. (Oh, I also have a Windows 7 installed as a game loader, it's very good at that!) More on topic: I got rid of the Windows partition on my netbook and games like Avadon TBF that are fun to play but not too resource hungry are just perfect for it. And since this was advertised as 'the first chapter in a new, epic fantasy saga', I was looking forward to follow it over time. In fact, if I had access to the source code I might just work towards a Linux port myself. Of course, if the engine would be open source many more hands could contribute to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora TSC_Maven Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I'm stoked for this release. I really enjoyed the first game and am doing my 2nd play-through since purchasing it. Will our character saves be transplanted into this next release if we have them, or do we start from scratch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Jeff has never gone in for the whole import-your-save-file-into-the-sequel thing: he thinks it's too hard to balance and makes games feel exclusionary to new players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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