Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Fellas the page it's up, feel free to check it out https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spiderwebsoftware/geneforge-2-infestation?ref=nav_search&result=project&term=geneforge Genernumlover, alhoon, Ircher and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Awesome! Thank you. ultra112 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Will we get a different forum for GF2-Remake or there will be one forum for the remakes? Personally, I would prefer one forum for the remakes. ultra112 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 It hasn't been discussed, but I'm leaning to a single remake forum. alhoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share Posted January 25, 2023 17 hours ago, alhoon said: Will we get a different forum for GF2-Remake or there will be one forum for the remakes? Personally, I would prefer one forum for the remakes. I mean didn't the avernum remake got the same treatment, like having an entire forum dedicate to the remake trilogy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Kickstarter is now open and taking pledges. Your chance to add something you want. ultra112 and Genernumlover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 Just pledged artifact tier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) I will be the first to say what we all think: We HAVE to make it to the 80K tier! What I noticed from the kickstarter page: We have something called "Battle Shaping" Now, which sounds like you can Shape yourself to do stuff. Like throw chain lighting. That's probably Tuldaric's stuff. Cockatrice made it to the mountains somehow. Shanti is Shanti. The "test agent" thinks too highly of herself if she goes toe to toe with 4 rotgroths while she lets the Gazers stand behind nicely. There are already several backers for quests and artifacts and that makes me optimistic. Edited February 8, 2023 by alhoon Genernumlover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt TriRodent Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 And as of now, fully funded ($31k actually). (waves hi to people. Computer died back in Sept. Been keeping an eye on the forums on my phone but didn't want to log on through that. Now with a functioning computer again ... whee, just in time for the Kickstarter) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila quasius Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 $100k tier makes me a bit nervous. Is that an attempt to bring Queen's Wish customizable portrait art style into Geneforge? It's not a deal-breaker or anything, but I think the character art in Geneforge 1- Mutagen and the current GF2 trailer look significantly better than the QW customizable portraits. Genernumlover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Minion Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, quasius said: $100k tier makes me a bit nervous. Is that an attempt to bring Queen's Wish customizable portrait art style into Geneforge? It's not a deal-breaker or anything, but I think the character art in Geneforge 1- Mutagen and the current GF2 trailer look significantly better than the QW customizable portraits. It says "an entirely new system" and I'm guessing that those 20,000 dollars would buy something slightly more advanced than a paper doll system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila quasius Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) He doesn't get the entire $20k, and he likely won't spend the entirety of what he does get on one stretch goal (and probably shouldn't). Edited February 8, 2023 by quasius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mechalibur Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I'm pretty excited! I think "Battle Shaping" should probably be changed to "Weapon Shaping" or "Combat Shaping" since it's already, you know, an existing school of shaping. Genernumlover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 totally random but I'd like to see a yellow fyora in the game just because Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 You can do that already with the color palete, Amira. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, alhoon said: You can do that already with the color palete, Amira. how? I'm a noob when it comes to that and everything else. I've always wanted to play around with colors but didn't know how and didn't want to break anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) I agree with Minion, besides Geneforge would benefit having a better character customization; as it is something that it needs to support it's lore and enhances the gameplay value. Edited February 11, 2023 by ultra112 Genernumlover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 19 hours ago, Amira The Hot Potato said: how? I'm a noob when it comes to that and everything else. I've always wanted to play around with colors but didn't know how and didn't want to break anything I have made a quick guide here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 Btw people what do you have in mind for the Kickstarter creation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 2 hours ago, ultra112 said: Btw people what do you have in mind for the Kickstarter creation? Wingbolts! Amira The Hot Potato 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 13, 2023 Author Share Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, alhoon said: Wingbolts! 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 6 hours ago, ultra112 said: Btw people what do you have in mind for the Kickstarter creation? hmm.. would a lion plant creature fit the theme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 Hmm interesting, so I would assume this would be a battle creation right? If so what kind of skills have you thought of for this creature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 The Kickstarter promo video showed the return of the cockatrice and ornk on the creation page. I'm curious about the new combat enhancements like Chain Lightning. It seems like fighters might get a multiple target attack for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Randomizer said: I'm curious about the new combat enhancements like Chain Lightning. It seems like fighters might get a multiple target attack for once. That is probably Tuldarik's doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 Perhaps, but wasn't Tuldaric's alterations involve with spell casting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, ultra112 said: Perhaps, but wasn't Tuldaric's alterations involve with spell casting? In the original, yes. But from GF3 and further you could do all the spells that are "locked" without alteration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 Hmm, I wonder if there would be secret spells that only Tuldaric can teach you but the other factions can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 12 hours ago, ultra112 said: Hmm interesting, so I would assume this would be a battle creation right? If so what kind of skills have you thought of for this creature not really sure. not my forte. maybe like a charging/ramming enemy and a melee. There's no way to me to back to make a new creature tier so if someone could suggest this(if its good) would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 16 hours ago, Amira The Hot Potato said: not really sure. not my forte. maybe like a charging/ramming enemy and a melee. There's no way to me to back to make a new creature tier so if someone could suggest this(if its good) would be nice Hmm perhaps it would have an ability to spew poisonous thorns in the same fashion as the spitting baton. Amira The Hot Potato 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 6 hours ago, ultra112 said: Hmm perhaps it would have an ability to spew poisonous thorns in the same fashion as the spitting baton. yeah thats where the plant feature would come in which would be nice. side note: it looks like we might reach the 60k goal. I'm pushing for 80k but not sure if we'll make it Ircher and ultra112 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 yeah I kinda had that idea popped into my head when you mentioned plant. side note: I'm hoping the kickstarter would reach 100k so that we can finally have that character customization that the series sorely needed. Amira The Hot Potato 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 10:06 AM, Amira The Hot Potato said: yeah thats where the plant feature would come in which would be nice. side note: it looks like we might reach the 60k goal. I'm pushing for 80k but not sure if we'll make it Need $2,290 more to reach 60k goal people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted February 17, 2023 Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 3:00 AM, alhoon said: In the original, yes. But from GF3 and further you could do all the spells that are "locked" without alteration. In G4 and G5 that was because you'd been Geneforged. G3 must have had some explanation for this? Right? Maybe? Or maybe G3 just gonna G3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Genernumlover Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Looks like it might hit the 60k new story, but I doubt it will reach the 80k or 100k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) On 2/18/2023 at 12:08 AM, metaforest for the pedantries said: In G4 and G5 that was because you'd been Geneforged. G3 must have had some explanation for this? Right? Maybe? Or maybe G3 just gonna G3... For GF3/4 it could be, but it was never explained. For GF3... I never got the big spells anyway. On 2/18/2023 at 4:19 AM, Genernumlover said: Looks like it might hit the 60k new story, but I doubt it will reach the 80k or 100k. Well, there's 17 more days. I believe we may get to 80K. That's a "secret" storyline about hard-to-reach things. That could VERY WELL be Ghaldring's door! The one you can't open in GF2. Regardless: The game will have -10 new quests- just from backers, and 10 new artifacts! Edited February 20, 2023 by alhoon Amira The Hot Potato 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mechalibur Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I'm also assuming all the backer artifacts from G1 will return (Queen's Wish 2 included backer artifacts from the first game, so we have precedence!). By the time we hit G5, we're going to have more artifacts than we know what to do with. I can see it hitting 80k, Kickstarters tend to get a large boost in the last few days. However, since we ran out of the high price backer options, I don't think it will be as big of a boost as some Kickstarters end up getting toward the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 Fellas we hit the 60k mark alhoon, Ircher and Amira The Hot Potato 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) Spiderweb Software is remastering another classic RPG | PC Gamer "The Geneforge series [...] was our first game series where we totally abandoned the idea of good or bad guys. These games are full of different factions, some of them truly strange. I wanted all of them to be able to argue their case. You can choose to join any of them and still get a satisfying ending. I still love that." I don't agree with that statement. Perhaps it can be argued that Shapers are "a necessary evil" to control something as powerful as Shaping despite being horrible to Outsiders (the Common, nowdays) and creations. But the entire Bazrite pitch, from what I remember from talking with Bazral in GF2 was "We want the power and not the limitations!" The Bazrites were WORSE on the creations than the Shapers, with pylons to keep the smart and powerful creations suffering to keep them under control. And they didn't have the checks and balances of the Shapers. More or less they had the bad of the shapers at 150% and whatever good the Shapers had at 25% at most. They were even letting their cannister-crazies walk around willy-nilly. Unlike the Drakons and the Takers, the Bazrites have absolutely no excuse for becoming like this. They just like it. No "we have to break some eggs and get power so that we can ensure our survival!" from the Drakons and Drayks that are all marked for death just for existing or "We have to use bad tactics to break the chains of the Shapers" for human rebels and serviles. There is something in their unrelenting and irresponsible quest for power and boot-in-the-neck domination but they are (at least IMO) very clearly the bad guys. Specifically for GF2 now, while the Shapers can argue their case... let's not start about their poster-boy and faction leader, Lying Zachary the Deceiver. OTHER Shapers can make the case for the Loyalists even though I disagree with them. Zakary? Nooope. I hope the endings where he is executed by the Shapers for his treason is upheld. And I hope he suffers... Edited February 22, 2023 by alhoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 12:08 AM, metaforest for the pedantries said: In G4 and G5 that was because you'd been Geneforged. G3 must have had some explanation for this? Right? Maybe? Or maybe G3 just gonna G3... Not so sure that this is true Metaforest. In GF4 and GF5 there are mages serving the Shapers that can use the Kill spell. These can't have been geneforged or Tuldaric'ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Hmm. Good point! Maybe Tuldaric's alteration method (which didn't require an actual Geneforge) became more widespread? Or maybe somebody came up with a more accessible version of the spell(s) that didn't require alteration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) On 2/23/2023 at 6:29 PM, sails From lamplit havens said: Hmm. Good point! Maybe Tuldaric's alteration method (which didn't require an actual Geneforge) became more widespread? Or maybe somebody came up with a more accessible version of the spell(s) that didn't require alteration. Or, quite probably, Tuldaric's alteration provides quick and easy access to magic power that is emulated in the game by these spells. What I mean is that after Tuldaric's transformation you can work to quickly learn uber-powerful magic. At GF2, this uber-powerful magic is shown with said spells in the game mechanics while in later games that's not shown that way. Or, as you said, Tuldaric-version of kill spell is more powerful in-lore than GF4 kill spell in-lore. (Or even in the game; I don't have GF2 and GF4 installed to compare the two). For GF5, with the increased hp and all, with the kill spell you can't kill a mid-level guard so, it's already "nerfed" in a way. Or simply the ritual cuts off years of study that would allow a mage to reach the level where he could learn those spells. However, as I recall, Tuldaric's main achievement was that Tuldaric'ed Serviles could cast magic without dying and without scarring themselves and becoming like the weird cultist serviles of Geneforge. Edited February 24, 2023 by alhoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Kennedy Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 For the "Add a New Character!" backer reward, would adding a character that would function as a companion like Greta or Alwan in Geneforge 3 be something that would be allowed or would that be too overpowered? Maybe something to consider as a stretch goal at $120K ultra112 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 We need $16,748 more for the 80k goal people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Kennedy said: For the "Add a New Character!" backer reward, would adding a character that would function as a companion like Greta or Alwan in Geneforge 3 be something that would be allowed or would that be too overpowered? Maybe something to consider as a stretch goal at $120K In the original GF2 there were actually a lot of traveling companions you could get(2 of them leave after you reach a certain area). IMO, I think it could maybe work middle-end of the game Edited February 25, 2023 by Amira The Hot Potato Archaeolagent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Kennedy Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Amira The Hot Potato said: In the original GF2 there were actually a lot of traveling companions you could get(2 of them leave after you reach a certain area). IMO, I think it could maybe work middle-end of the game Were you able to control them? Other than Mutagen the only other Geneforge I've completed was part 5, and I don't think the few creations that would follow me in Mutagen were able to be controlled . Edited February 26, 2023 by Kennedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan ultra112 Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 I think we could expand the amount of companion through the add a new character reward Amira The Hot Potato 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Kennedy said: Were you able to control them? Other than Mutagen the only other Geneforge I've completed was part 5, and I don't think the few creations that would follow me in Mutagen were able to be controlled . iirc yes but in the remake that might change. hope it doesnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Amira The Hot Potato Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 5 hours ago, ultra112 said: I think we could expand the amount of companion through the add a new character reward Curious to know what would you guys add? in the early areas we had Spoiler the thahd and that warrior after the discovery you can Spoiler get the vlish,rat and roamer(my favorite) later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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