Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Well Jeff did say that there wouldn't be an Avernum 7. But here in his blog, he mentions a possible prequel to the series maybe being done in the future. Although 4 to 5 years is a lifetime in the computer industry. Quote: (Though, actually, I have a really cool idea for Avernum Zero. Basically I one-off prequel set in the years before the first game. Maybe in four or five years, if I think I can come up with something actually good, I'll go back to the well one more time.) Oh well a return to Avernum is possible along with whatever the new game will be and the remakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Oh dear. Another George Lucas in the making. *hem* MOVE ON TO A NEW GAME ALREADY!!!!! Let Avernum rest for a little while. Come back in 2012, fine, but until then, something new would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I was going to comment on this when I first saw it, but I declined. I like the idea, though I'm more excited to see what Jeff comes up with for the next series. The early days of Avernum were definitely an interesting time, if the various bits and pieces we hear during the trilogies are any indication. Originally Posted By: Dantius Oh dear. Another George Lucas in the making. ...Let Avernum rest for a little while. Come back in 2012, fine, but until then, something new would be nice. Now, you see, that's exactly what he just said. If you had read the rest of the quote, you would've seen that Jeff does not plan on doing this next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Lets see. 2009 + 4 or 5. That's what, 2013 or 2014? Excellent. I'll be in college, so I can play games for hours on end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 I'll be in college, so I can play games for hours on end! See, you think that now. You'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I'm looking forward to something entirely new as well, but Jeff certainly hasn't gone very wrong with Avernum. The over-arching inter-game plot fell apart a bit after A3, though. Taking Jeff's new engine ideas and putting them back into exciting frontier Avernum sounds good to me. —Alorael, who suspects Jeff's own feelings are not unlike Dantius's, large text and all. Also note that he is not Lucas yet, as his sequels have far less itis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk llloyd Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 my dad says for every hour of klass expekt three hours of homework. that's all i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Personally, I don't think Avernum 0 is a good name, but that's just me. Of course, there aren't too many suitable names to begin with, so meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Dakkanor Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Ephesos Originally Posted By: Master1 I'll be in college, so I can play games for hours on end! See, you think that now. You'll see. Whadda ya talking about i'm in college now and i spend heaps of time on games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 It depends a good bit on where you go to college and what classes you're taking (and whether you decide to go on to grad school!), but chances are you'll have a good bit flexible time as an undergrad, at least. The question is whether you'll really want to spend it all playing computer games. I'd recommend NOT doing that... Grad school is another matter entirely, but I've found a good computer game, like Nethergate: Resurrection, for example ( ) is good way to relax after hundreds of pages of assigned are about to drive me bonkers. And think a game set in early Avernum sounds quite interesting. I wonder if it would be early as in First Expedition discover of Avernum early, or early as in first batch of "criminals" to be banished early or early as in contemporary of Erika/Rone/Solberg but before Avernum 1 early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I think Avernum 0 should start with the First Expedition, cause I've always found them very intriguing....especially all the little clues and stories that you find about them through the series. It will probably focus on Erika/Rone/Solberg though, but that's pretty interesting too so either way I'll be happy. I can wait a little bit for it though, I want to see a new game first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Rionep Ecnirp Etlevs Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 I think Avernum 0 should be named "Exile: Enter the Pit" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 As has been discussed before, the problem with a First Expedition game is that we already know that everyone in the First Expedition died. Of course, it's not like Jeff hasn't retconned things before, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Dakkanor, Are you by any chance refering to NZ College which is the US equivalent to high school? Funny, when I read this title, I didn't read it as Avernum Zero but as Avernum Oh. Sounded like a breakfast cerial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 it's just like a chocolate milkshake only fungal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Thuryl As has been discussed before, the problem with a First Expedition game is that we already know that everyone in the First Expedition died. Of course, it's not like Jeff hasn't retconned things before, but... So, sometime between the First Expedition and Avernum 1 is the timeframe. Personally, I believe it will probably be something involving the founding of Avernum, which would be a very cool add-on to the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Dakkanor Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Hypnotic Dakkanor, Are you by any chance refering to NZ College which is the US equivalent to high school? i said college because most people here are probably in the us to be specific i go to polytech, my older sister goes to uni and has spends alot of time in recreation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Considerate of you. Personally I would say college and made them think it was their version of college. Still, not looking foward to Uni and its study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Thuryl As has been discussed before, the problem with a First Expedition game is that we already know that everyone in the First Expedition died. Of course, it's not like Jeff hasn't retconned things before, but... But we don't know if there were more expeditions sent down. Maybe it could be a rescue mission for the lost expedition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Good point... how else would they know they died? Only thing is, if such an expedition existed, you'd think they'd retrieve the artifacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 I'll be in college, so I can play games for hours on end! Heh... hehe... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh. Sorry. Being awake 40 hours studying tends to make me weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Arancaytrus Originally Posted By: Master1 I'll be in college, so I can play games for hours on end! Heh... hehe... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh. Sorry. Being awake 40 hours studying tends to make me weird. It's possible to play games and party all you want. But the thing people don't understand is that 1 week before a midterm or two before a final you need to be studying 8 hours or more a day. It's called making use of your time. There's a time to play and time to work. Most midterms and finals occur close together if not the same day, so it's only a short period of time one actually needs to do any work. Unless you're in a lame 2 midterm course. Edit: The above probably doesn't apply to Math or Physics unless you're a savant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Celtic Minstrel Good point... how else would they know they died? That's what the brooches were for. They were originally meant as communication devices, after all: presumably the Empire got enough information from each expedition member before their deaths to draw the obvious conclusion about what had happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 ...brooches? *sigh* I need to play these so that I know what people are talking about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Brooches are a Special Item found only in Exile/Avernum 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 There's some sort of wiki somewhere that I think explains stuff like the brooches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Enraged Slith Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Some classes require more time than others. Specifically, you will need to spend all of your freetime studying if you want to pass your science courses. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or deserves a shotgun to the gonads. Avernum 0 is the last thing I want to see right now. It might be interesting, but I'm glad he isn't considering it in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: VCH There's some sort of wiki somewhere that I think explains stuff like the brooches. Indeed there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Oh my god, that's an awesome article....I would love to see an opening intro movie that told that story. I feel like playing Avernum now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Ephesos See, you think that now. You'll see. My brother up at F&M always plays Diablo II when he's at work. I guess student work in the HR department doesn't require much time. And it all depends on where you go. Originally Posted By: Dakkanor my older sister goes to uni and has spends alot of time in recreation What state does that particular "I" stand for? [prejudice]If it's I for Iowa, then your sister has class.[/prejudice] Originally Posted By: Arancaytrus Oh. Sorry. Being awake 40 hours studying tends to make me weird. You see, I'm already weird, so it's not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 Depending upon your intelligence, major, and course load, you can easily spend 20-30 hours per week gaming. I'd like to see for Avernum 0 the expelling of the demons from Avernum ending with final battle to imprison Grah-Hoth. Solberg - "I need some idiots, I mean adventurers to distract Grah-Hoth while we cast a spell to imprison him in this bottle. You, you, you and you come with me." Solberg points to your party. Great another suicide mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 Originally Posted By: Dakkanor my older sister goes to uni and has spends alot of time in recreation What state does that particular "I" stand for? [prejudice]If it's I for Iowa, then your sister has class.[/prejudice] i'm pretty sure it's i for iversity you know, as in uni-versity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Swimmin' Salmon Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Interesting notion Jeff has. I'd like to see it done without mention of Avernum at all, but just from the POV of the Empire being oppressive on the surface, with people disappearing as they express dissent. There would really be no call to go underground at all, except for a passing reference that the Empire is searching for a prison. Hmm. Even more interesting if he did it Nethergate fashion, allowing you to pick Empire or dissident. It might take 5 or so years to forget that he's more or less done this in Geneforge and ASR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Well, actually it would have to not mention Avernum if it predates the nation of Avernum... but if it's about the founding of Avernum, I see nothing wrong with mentioning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Avernum the bunch of caves almost certainly predates Avernum the kingdom. The explorers had to call it something in their reports, and the Emperor had to banish people to somewhere, not just from the Empire. —Alorael, who would find it perfectly reasonable if "Avernum" were the name given to that place to which neighbors kept getting packed off by the common people. Word of mouth can be a powerful thing, and it's a more useful name than the Great Maze of Twisty Caves, All Alike. Or perhaps the Colossal Caverns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Swimmin' Salmon Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Perhaps then, a simple anagram of infocom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Thuryl i'm pretty sure it's i for iversity you know, as in uni-versity Well, I feel slightly dumb. Me and my Americanness. Americannity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Dakkanor Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master1 Originally Posted By: Dakkanor my older sister goes to uni and has spends alot of time in recreation What state does that particular "I" stand for? [prejudice]If it's I for Iowa, then your sister has class.[/prejudice] Well i say uni short for university but h=the code for her uni is VUW work that one out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dakkanor the code for her uni is VUW work that one out Vernal Utilitarian Workhouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Dakkanor Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Nice try Eph I reckon hypnotic might be able to tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Hm... clearly that just lacked the right mojo... let me try again. Vastly Unstable Wharfs? Vitally Useful Whirligigs? Very Unlikely Whiles? Various Urban Whelps? Verifiable Unoriginal Wills? Vivid Ululation Whoop? Vexing Underground Werewolves? Vampiric Ugandan Warts? Vultures Using Whence? Vipers Usurping Warriors? Vocally Understood Wards? I can do this all day, you know. Or, I could just save everyone the trip to Google and guess Victorian University of Wellington. EDIT: Salmon is correct, I originally ran VUM instead of VUW. The above sarcasm has been changed to reflect this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Swimmin' Salmon Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Why did you run with VUM instead of VUW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I'm lost, but my Guess is Victoria University Wellington. Why don't you just tell us yourself? EDIT: Oh Ephesos already guessed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Dakkanor Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Well it was in fact as the university was in fact victoria unversity in wellington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila diipadaapaa Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Is there a thread where one could suggest new ideas to avernum-series (or whatever there is next on to-do list), changes to gameplay, new features, etc.? I'll just write my idea here in case of sudden amnesia. If there ever is going to be A0, I would like to see much more item making. Haven't played A5 or A6 but A4 had item making in some extend. Like bringing cavewood, some herbs and emerald to make a wand. Like if you kill a rat you would get a small piece of poor-quality leather and killing a dragon would yield ûber-quality leather enough to make armors for small army. And killing magically protected skeleton would get you magically enhanced bones which you could take to a smith and have him do a very good bonespear. Now if the game would take place, say, time after first expedition and before defeating the what-ever-named-demon, armors and weapons would be very rary so it would make sense to try and make items whatever material possible. I mean they did have stone swords at first. Get the idea? Good because its way past my bedtime and I could go on and on about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 A5 and A6 continue that kind of crafting, for the record. Also, Jeff doesn't exactly comb the boards for ideas for his games. I believe there are tricky legal hurdles that prevent him from doing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 There will be no time to craft anything in Jeff's new survival horror RPG. Avernum 0: Chased by Sliths Until Dragons Eat You —Alorael, who could alternately see that as an arcade game. Or a game for the C64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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