Tenderfoot Thahd Major General Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I've never bought your games. Ever. I've freeloaded off your demos since the 3.5" disk. Then after going to college, working several jobs, paying off my college debt, etc. I boot up Steam and suddenly see Avadon. Released by you. And I get paid in 4 days. You still make demos. I ran into the Demo Demon. I miss the Shareware Demon, and I think the Demo Demon would be better replaced by the Indie Demon. But that is my only complaint. I look forward to actually buying your games in 4 days, sharing my thoughts, and purchasing the Exile/Avernum back catalog before the year is out. Thank you for all the good memories in gaming, and I hope you continue to crank out good games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Aw, it's raining warm fuzzies. =) That said, I can't decide if the Demo Demon was cheesy and a good thing to be rid of in later titles, or a bit of Old Skool wackiness games need more of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 at Exile (3 I think) demon had nice pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 I would check but for some reason the damn demo demon doesnt appear anymore sayin "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" ok thats not exactly what he says, but the point is that he wont come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 . . . Did you buy the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Not enough money, never did, still get the same "you can go no farther" message when I wonder the mountains at the top of the sharamik area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Right, the demon only does his long message once, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 AWW! I liked the Avernums, "He blocks your path with a long beefy arm" EDIT: replaced bath with path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Major General Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 The game. It is bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 witch game? jeff must have made atleast 15 games. No wait, scratch that, sixteen. 17 if you count nethergate ressurection differant from nethergate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 did you count Blades of Exile and Avernum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 19 in total then. Nineteen games. nineteen*fifteen= 245. People will spend 245$ if they buy all his games...Wow. It still seems pretty cheap for nineteen games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Originally Posted By: Trenton Uchiha, shaper servile. 19 in total then. Nineteen games. nineteen*fifteen= 245. People will spend 245$ if they buy all his games...Wow. It still seems pretty cheap for nineteen games. Don't forget about October Sadness and bundling packages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 If you order even game from Spiderweb's site, buying bundles where possible, the total comes to $290. Of course, you can subtract $15 from that right away because there is no point whatsoever in buying Blades of Exile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 What? how dare you! BoE FANS UNITE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Originally Posted By: Trenton Uchiha, shaper servile. What? how dare you! BoE FANS UNITE! I have nothing against BoE. I was merely commenting on the foolishness of purchasing a freely available game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 oh...nevermind. I love BoE, you can make your own games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Actually, it's cheaper than that with some order of operations. The original Exile trilogy is $25. Getting the first Avernum trilogy when you own Exile is only $15. The second trilogy is $55, BoA is another $25, Avadon is $20, the Geneforge series is $75. Nethergate is, oddly, the most expensive of the bunch at $30, but then the remake is just $12. That's just $257 total. For a long time, Nethergate was only $15 with purchase of any other game. I'm not sure if that's still true, but if it is you can bring it down to $242. —Alorael, who hopes Jeff will maybe take a look at his older games' prices sometime. Nethergate for $30, more than its own update, is ridiculous. The fact that getting the Exile trilogy is more than the Avernum trilogy in the above isn't, because it's effectively a $40, six game bundle. It just comes out looking funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 You can buy Avadon on Steam for $10 dollars, so that would bring the total down even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Originally Posted By: Tyranicus Originally Posted By: Trenton Uchiha, shaper servile. What? how dare you! BoE FANS UNITE! I have nothing against BoE. I was merely commenting on the foolishness of purchasing a freely available game. I'm kind of glad I bought it before then, because that game is worth money just out of principle. It's sad that the open-source project didn't go anywhere. While the engine is ancient (and the whole node-based scripting the worst thing ever), I don't know any free DIY RPG platform remotely as accessible. (And on purely nostalgic terms, even the event nodes had an endearing sort of style, where the technical limits allowed for amazing artistic feats. I'll never forget the WTF of seeing an actual cut-scene in BoE.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 The open-source project went somewhere. Most of the bugs have been fixed. The problem is that nobody has ever made it available in an easy-to-use (i.e., platform-specific executable) and easy-to-get (i.e., one click to download, well advertised) form. It's incredibly silly that nobody has done this since an awful lot of work has gone into OBoE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Originally Posted By: Slartucker The problem is that nobody has ever made it available in an easy-to-use (i.e., platform-specific executable) and easy-to-get (i.e., one click to download, well advertised) form. That's not really true, I was wondering about this for other reasons yesterday and found the downloads in only a couple of steps: BoE Forum Header -> Google Code Page -> Downloads. I clicked on the download labeled as being for my OS, downloaded it and ran it. It may not be very thoroughly advertised, but I'm not sure how else that should be done. Maybe a direct link to the downloads page from the BoE Forum Header? That would still only cut out one step. There are also a few extra things on the downloads page that aren't what most people will want, but it's not hard to figure out from the labeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Hey, thanks for those pointers. (I suppose I'm kind of to blame for missing things like that when I've been gone from these forums for years.) I'm trying it out now. The open-source build seems to work just as well in Wine as the old one (which is to say, good, with some minor graphics glitches). Pity I have neither the C knowledge nor the free time to help along with a native Linux version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 We need a new native Mac version as well. The currently available build is PowerPC, and Lion runs Intel code only. However, as Aran says, the Windows version does work in Wine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Stupid mac coming out before windows, Did jeff originate with a mac computer when he started making games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 i always wondered about that being that most people i know hate macs, it was always weird that the mac version came out first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Jeff uses Macs primarily, and as a result of his good Mac support about half of the people attracted here are primarily Mac users as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I wouldn't be surprised that if Jeff suddenly began making the Windows version first some of us Mac users would throw a fit and not buy his games. With a lot of games the Windows version comes first, and if the Mac version even comes around it might end up being a poorly done port. The quality of a port kind of depends on who does it, though. I find that Aspyr doesn't do the greatest job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Originally Posted By: Excalibur I wouldn't be surprised that if Jeff suddenly began making the Windows version first some of us Mac users would throw a fit and not buy his games. With a lot of games the Windows version comes first, and if the Mac version even comes around it might end up being a poorly done port. The quality of a port kind of depends on who does it, though. I find that Aspyr doesn't do the greatest job. It depends on the game. Aspyr, and most other porting companies, don't do full ports like Jeff does. Rather, they use Cider, a commercial implementation of Wine that supports DRM. As always, some things work better in Wine than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Jeff's games have always worked pretty well in Wine, too (aside from the glitches mentioned, like artifacts on the italic equipped-item texts in the Exile series), even the newer games (though the newest one I actually tried was Avernum 4). I didn't try to run the native Linux Exile 3, but would be surprised if it actually still worked on a 64bit architecture with a modern kernel. That is likely one reason Jeff never made another native port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 The thing with Linux ports is, if the game works in Wine, there is little reason to make a port. The number of people who use Linux as their primary OS but aren't capable of using Wine is very small indeed. Whereas, plenty of Mac users don't even know what Wine is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 They should call it beer, everyone knows what that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I know what Wine is, but only because I bought a game from EA that was ported using Wine, and I regretted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 stop wining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I think it's whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Duh, winning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 whini-ing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Originally Posted By: Triumph Duh, winning! Oh, Charlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 macs had better graphics than pcs when Exile 1 came so ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Why do you call it PC's? its called Windows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Microsoft programmers use Apple computers to do graphics before converting it to Windows PCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I seem to remember an infamous photo of Bill Gates using a MacBook at some keynote or speech or something like that. @Randomizer: and yet Aero look still makes me want to vomit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Ohh...so windows and PC's are the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Originally Posted By: Trenton Uchiha, shaper servile. Ohh...so windows and PC's are the same thing? When someone says PC, they generally mean a computer running Windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I are confused. I need to visit wikipedia for a minute, then Ill edit this post with somthing else to say. EDIT: Im still confused. Does it mean computer in general? like people saying, "Im typing on my hand held PC." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 PC really just means "personal computer", but nowadays it's usually used as "a box with Windows on it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Originally Posted By: [censored PDN char limit]PC really just means "personal computer", but nowadays it's usually used as "a box with Windows on it". Note that taking a hacksaw to your computer so that you create windows in its casing is not a great idea. Doubly so if it isn't your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Originally Posted By: The Forgotten Ann/Arm Originally Posted By: [censored PDN char limit]PC really just means "personal computer", but nowadays it's usually used as "a box with Windows on it". Note that taking a hacksaw to your computer so that you create windows in its casing is not a great idea. Doubly so if it isn't your computer. Or you could just buy a case with those plexiglass windows in it. Which I never understood. I mean, I get wanting to show off your four graphics cards in SLI, but after awhile it would have fingerprints and dust and yucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Thats why you clean it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 PC is also used as the catchall term for non-Apple hardware, which was once a more useful distinction. Now, the actual architecture of computers running Windows and Mac OS is similar, and it's the software that differs, but that's only a recent development. —Alorael, who is neither a Mac nor a PC. He's a meatling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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