Tenderfoot Thahd ToeJm686 Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 so what are some good monsters to use capture soul on? i was usually too lazy to figure out some good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Spring Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Empire Devrish, Vahnati Warrior and Demon are always good for me. I also have caught a Mage, Apprentice Mage, Empire Archer, Champion, Blademaster and also a couple of Imps. I tried to get a Doomguard, but it won't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Seletine Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 For Exile 3, I captured the souls of an Order Mage and a Slith Archmage. A Quickghast may be good to have in some situations; a Crystal Soul may also be useful. It's a bad idea to capture a Doomguard, as any copies of the monster you summon will attack you. (697) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Thralni Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Remember one very important thing though: If you're skill is not high enough, you're just wasting you SP. I had this many times. Evey time I wanted to catch a demon, it resisted. I caught an eyebeast, and tried to catch a soldier in Delis, but he resisted. I also caught a shambler, and something else, which I can't remember. Is it possible to have more than four creatures stored? You can only have four I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Yes, you're limited to four. The order in which the creature slots are filled is random, so if a newly-captured monster overwrites one you already had in there and wanted to keep, reload a saved game and try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Controversial Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Vahnatai lords are a good choice. You'll have to probably use the editor to reload your magicka. I once got an Order Mage, theyre okay.(I thought they were supposed to be immune to magic =\) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Contrary to popular belief, being immune to magic doesn't make a monster immune to Capture Soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I'm surprised no one's mentioned Basilisk and Ur-Basilisk yet. They are always useful. But then again sometimes Major Summoning will pick up 4 or 5 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Figgy Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Empire archers are a huge plus. For the fact that they NEVER miss, and aren't random. When you summon them, you know what they'll do and they'll do it well. And can you acually capture a Crystal Soul? I've tried before but always resisted, every single time. I figured they were immune to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk John S Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I had an Order Mage and Empire Dervish. I toted around Drakes for a while before that. They make good initial targets, as well as Demons. Has anyone gotten a Haakai? Or Mung Demon? I'm not picky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Sullust Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Quote: Originally written by Figgy:Empire archers are a huge plus. For the fact that they NEVER miss, and aren't random. They seem to miss my PC every time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Mine are always under Mass Sanctuary when I fight Empire Archers and Guards so they never hit. Mhuhahahahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Thralni Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 My characters can mostly without the sanctuary. In exile games, I defeat them with or without it! They keep missing me. Mhuhahahahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Figgy Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Empire archers don't simply have godly accuracy, they just cannot miss regular shots. Stuff like sancuary is a different story though It's like how magic never misses, unless you have something like an anti-magic field around you. Empire Archers never miss the ENEMY, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Controversial Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Quote: Originally written by Figgy: Empire archers are a huge plus. For the fact that they NEVER miss, and aren't random. When you summon them, you know what they'll do and they'll do it well. And can you acually capture a Crystal Soul? I've tried before but always resisted, every single time. I figured they were immune to it. Yeah, you can capture a crystal soul. They aren't that good though. And it looks weird because when it's summoned it shows up with the vahnatai flooring. (the green one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Cairo Jim Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I mostly go for a blademaster, a champion, a vampire and then something random but good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall BainIhrno Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 In Exile 3, I got a Vahnatai Lord, Ur-Basilisk, Vahnatai Master, and Crystal Soul. In BoE, I only capture Basilisks/Ur-Basilisks, but I'm not going to discuss that here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I can't ever capture any Vahnatai higher than a Vahnatai Warrior. How can I get the higher ranking ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Gorank Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I intended to capture a dragon, but apparently it was too big. Also, I wanted to capture the Mind Crystal, but it resisted my Level 50 character!! (I figured anything that big of a pain in the neck had to be good) Also, I haven't tried it, but I want to capture Rentar-Ihrono. After all, what would pulverize enemies better than an army of insanely powerful, completely invulnerable creatures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Cheeseball Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 I don't think its possible to caputire Rhentar-Ihrno, or any of the major characters like Erica. There resistance is probably maxed out, and I dont think a level 99 character could capture them. My Exile 3 list consists of Rahkshasha, Pack Leader, Vahnatai Lord, and Vahnatai Keeper. The Vahnatai lord is nice because it can use its own soul crystal to summon things like basilisks, and the pack leader is good because it hits like 6 times dealing a massive amount of damage. The rahkshasa is nice because i beleive its immune to magic, and the keeper is just something i havent really replaced. I think i used to use him as an archer since i think hes the disk thrower, not sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 In my soul crystal I like to have jewelled golems (if I have to suffer their acid attack then so should everyone else); shamblers (quite hard to kill, so they are good for shoring up numbers); eye beasts (to drain enemy spell points); and basilisks (for obvious reasons - sometimes you want to be _certain_ to get a basilisk, so major summoning is no use). However, summoning anything overtly magical in E[1,2,3] is really fairly pointless, as their firestorm, etc spells are just as likely to kill you as your opponents. Yet, woe betide you if you should dare to harm any of your summoned creatures with an area effect spell. I once made that mistake casting shockwave with Erika in the room. Once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Eclipse Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 In E2 I captured: Mortrax Vahnatai Lord And that Leach creature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall BainIhrno Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 To get a Vahnatai Lord, get a good amount of spell points so you can try more than once per session. Just keep reloading the game until you get the Vahnatai Lord. Don't get basilisks in your Soul Crystal. Get Ur-Basilisks. They're much better. They may resist, but just do the same as the Vahnatai Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 The trouble with Ur-Basilisks is that it costs more than twice as many SP to Simulacrum them. In general, I'd rather summon two Basilisks than one Ur-Basilisk, and the former would cost me less SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Locke Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 kinda surprising that only 1 person mentioned pack leaders. Anyway: 1: Pack Leader 2: Basilisk or Ur-Basilisk 3: Empire Archer 4: Any high power caster. (Vahnatai Lord, Order Mage, things of that sort.) Edit: replaced Empire Dervish with Empire Archer. Who needs a dervish when you got Pack Leaders? Sulfras would have kicked the crap out of me if I didn't have those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Archmagus Micael Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 For Exile 3: Early on in the game: 1)Vahnatai Warrior 2)Vahnatai Mage 3)Wizard 4)Captain At the end of the game: 1)Pack Leader 2)Vahnatai Lord 3)Mad Monk 4)Empire Archer Oh well, seems like we're all pretty similar. - Archmagus Micael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug aquadraconus Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 My Crystal Soul (Exile 3) 1) Pack Leader - I chose him because he is a powerful up close fighter. If these things managed to overrun Footracer Provience, they are pretty useful. When I first fought him, I lost almost 100HP in 1 turn. 2) Basilisk - The ability to instantly turn one of my enemies to stone is invaluable. Pain in th e backside to find a friendly ont though. I just captured a soul of a Vahnatai Lord and let them use their soul crystal to summon one out. 3) Null Bug - Just a cheap way to create Anti-magic fields around my PC's. Tower of Magi has one on hand when you complete the Slime Plague. 4) Vahnatai Warrior - They only cost 8MP and they chuck razerdisks with the same accuracy as the Empire Archers (whose MP is over 20) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Eldibs Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 In E2, the only thing I ever try to capture is Sulfras. He (she?) rules in combat. I never really try to capture anything in E3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Kythras Posted September 21, 2005 Share Posted September 21, 2005 Quickghasts are crazy. Their only weakness is low hp. Very good up to golems, then they start dying. But summon 4 of those on any big monster and they won't last long at all. Unless the monster is really strong.. Can anyone say 4 times 9 times 30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted September 22, 2005 Share Posted September 22, 2005 (i) 1080; (ii) you already said this, in the other thread; (iii) in general any monster that causes your PCs trouble is worth having in the soul crystal; quickghasts can be problematic in E3, but in A3 spectres take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Chief Spider watching The Simpsons Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 You can also capture a guard. Oh and by the way, if you want a demon, just cast Daemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd nighthawk3001 Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Quote: Originally written by -T-O-E-N-A-I-L-:I'm surprised no one's mentioned Basilisk and Ur-Basilisk yet. They are always useful. But then again sometimes Major Summoning will pick up 4 or 5 of them. Thats true, except for one thing. Maybe its because the highest levels out of any of my characters is level 33, but I've summoned dozens of basikisks before, but never any ur-basilisks. Has anyone here ever been able to summon a ur-basikisk through major summoning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Bunni K Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 - Ur-Basilisk - Pack Leader - Eyebeast - Mad Monk I hate mages and wizards and such. When they start summoning, they summon all these monsters that screw things up. Okay, I admit - I have a tendency to be a control freak when it comes to battles. Quote: Has anyone here ever been able to summon a ur-basikisk through major summoning? Never happened to me Thank god they come across your path every once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug aquadraconus Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 My soul crystal includes: 1) Pack Leader (Awesome fighter {also poisons I believe}) 2) Vahnatai Warrior (8 MP can't beat that for those Razordisks. not as powerful as an Empire Archer, but I don't like the 30+ MP for the Empire Archer) 3) Ur-Basilisk (for obvious reasons) 4) Vahnatai Lord (for powerfull spells and their soul crystal of Basilisks and Eyebeasts/Gazers {I cannot remember which one}) Its been a while since I played E3 and my E2 is listed in my signature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Casual Moose Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 I've never used caprture soul. It's far too spell point expensive and takes far too much time (AP) to do. Major Summon (which you can get quite quickly if you put your mind to it) creates lots of powerful-ish monsters and it only costs 14 spell points and can beat your 30 spell point guard. (It is also similar with Deamons - summon Deamon costs a lot less spell point wise than getting a deamon via simulacrum does) The only time I've ever found Capture Soul useful was when I got lots empire archers against the massive drake onslaught vs the king drake. They mopped the drakes up really, really quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast ben4808 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Waste of money. So I dunno what I'd have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toenail Returns Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Ur-Basilisk Demon Empire Dervish Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora ozymandias107 Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Not I:I had an Order Mage and Empire Dervish. I toted around Drakes for a while before that. They make good initial targets, as well as Demons. Has anyone gotten a Haakai? Or Mung Demon? I'm not picky. I managed to get a Haakai in Exile 2 in the lava dome but it took a really, really long time. Rounded the crystal out with an Ur-Basilik, Lich, and Ice Hydra. Not that the hydra's all that impressive, but I was happy with the other three and didn't want to press my luck. Any suggestions for a fourth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I'm fond of basilisks, null bugs and quickghasts, although null bugs are more than a little tricky to capture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 I only buy Capture Soul and Simulacrum for completeness, and never use them. If I can't kill it with my party, I don't take it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Well, it's amusing reading what one wrote 2 years ago. My answer hasn't changed since then. (Not that I've played Exile very much over the past 2 years.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 Overall, I'd say those are good choices. I just don't bother using my soul crystal out of practicality; with my magic-heavy playing style, I need all the spell points I can get. Quote: it's amusing reading what one wrote 2 years ago. Yeah, I noticed a few attempts at topic necromancy with this thread. I'm not complaining, though, because it might be useful should I decide to use a crystal soul. edit: added quote, and a response to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Jeran Korak Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 I used a force of Alien Beasts and Pack Leaders and the odd Van Lord to storm Kriszan once. (Can anyone capture a guard btw?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted May 26, 2007 Share Posted May 26, 2007 Quote: (Can anyone capture a guard btw?) I think someone mentioned earlier in this thread that you could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted May 27, 2007 Share Posted May 27, 2007 Quote: Originally written by The Mystic: Quote: (Can anyone capture a guard btw?) I think someone mentioned earlier in this thread that you could. You think right. Quote: Originally written by Chief Spider watching The Simpsons:You can also capture a guard. Oh and by the way, if you want a demon, just cast Daemon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted May 28, 2007 Share Posted May 28, 2007 Thought so. Thanks for checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Thrawn 42 Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 I prefer to use (Early game): Vahnati Lord, Empire Dervish, Empire Archer, and an Ur-Basilisk. Late Game, it's the same, except switch the Dervish with a Pack Leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Robsta Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I really only used capture soul in Exile II, since I had enough other things to think about in Exile III and I don't have many powerful BoE parties yet. But for Exile II, I found it easier to capture friends instead of enemies, since I'm usually to buisy killing the powerful enemies. Anyways here's my Exile II lineup: Hydra (useful at first, but never got written over) Order Mage (costs less than a Wizard, and is just as powerful) Lich (yep, that was fun) Vahnatai Blademaster (got it before leaving the vahnatai lands, slaughtered many foes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Mingan Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 I have an all mage/priest party so right now in E2 i have a lich and a naga i was trying for a haakia but he didn't want to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Robsta Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 About capturing guards (based on E2, the Exile game I played when using the soul crystal), it's possible(and even easy), but they arn't very powerful unless you first anger them (and this can be dangerous) and even then, they're best for defence. (with an HP of 270(E2), as opposed to 90 when unangered). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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