Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Link One. Link Two. (And somewhat related link.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I saw that yesterday, if only all cats could fly. Then the world would be doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Gah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 That is a rather morbid toy. I don't think I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 It's a novel alternative to burial or cremation, but I think I'll stick to the traditional methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 It's horrible, and I can't... stop... laughing... From a taxidermy perspective though, props to whoever worked on the cat. Thing's lifelike enough that you could almost fool yourself into thinking it's alive (and also a superhero-cat). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Originally Posted By: Tyranicus Gah! (if I were this cat, I would absolutely make the journey back to this world in order to haunt the hell out of my previous owner. it's even more horrid that normal taxidermy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Would make for great pranks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Enraged Slith Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 This is what I want done to my body when I die. I want to float over children's birthday parties and drop religious pamphlets on their lawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 I don't see what is wrong or questionable with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Other than it is totally dis-respecting something that should be in the ground under a big tombstone to show how much you loved it(And if necessary, to push down onto the ground above it if it turns into a zombie-cat.)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Respect can take weird forms, and it's not as though the cat can mind. —Alorael, who doesn't want to wait for death. Where does he sign up for turning into a quadrotor now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Originally Posted By: !TrEnToN, CaPtAiN oF RoYaL GuArD Other than it is totally dis-respecting something that should be in the ground under a big tombstone to show how much you loved it? It's a cat. It's not like it cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 It would not care if it were a human, either. Well, perhaps there's a distinction if you believe in an afterlife for our species only. That's a debate I'd rather avoid, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Originally Posted By: Actaeon It would not care if it were a human, either. Well, perhaps there's a distinction if you believe in an afterlife for our species only. That's a debate I'd rather avoid, though. It's not so much that it would care if it were a human, so much that it is that other humans would care. I know I'd be pretty freaked out if my neighbor's wife died and he turned her into a helicopter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Originally Posted By: Dantius It's not so much that it would care if it were a human, so much that it is that other humans would care. I know I'd be pretty freaked out if my neighbor's wife died and he turned her into a helicopter. Whats wrong with WifeCopters? Sounds perfectly legit and acceptable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 Originally Posted By: Dantius Originally Posted By: Actaeon It would not care if it were a human, either. Well, perhaps there's a distinction if you believe in an afterlife for our species only. That's a debate I'd rather avoid, though. It's not so much that it would care if it were a human, so much that it is that other humans would care. I know I'd be pretty freaked out if my neighbor's wife died and he turned her into a helicopter. But other humans seem to care about cats as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I had to check to make sure it wasn't April Fools Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I am a cat person, but my reaction was pretty much the same as Nioca's. The quality of the taxidermy and the startlingly perfect execution of the awesome idea of a flying cat makes this a legitimate piece of art, imo. Having said that, I did not approve of the display of flayed human cadavers in artistic poses that was making the rounds some years ago. is apparently still making the rounds. So maybe I'm a bad person, or speciesist, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Originally Posted By: Jerakeen Having said that, I did not approve of the display of flayed human cadavers in artistic poses that was making the rounds some years ago. is apparently still making the rounds. So maybe I'm a bad person, or speciesist, I don't know. Well, it doesn't help that some of those bodies were apparently taken from executed Chinese prisoners without their consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 There's actually at least two exhibitions like that. I saw Bodies Revealed when it came to the local science museum/former COSI. It was really neat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Originally Posted By: Lilith Well, it doesn't help that some of those bodies were apparently taken from executed Chinese prisoners without their consent. Say what? Do you happen to have a link? Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Originally Posted By: Lilith Well, it doesn't help that some of those bodies were apparently taken from executed Chinese prisoners without their consent. Apparently not. Originally Posted By: Wiki Bodies from deceased persons who did not give consent – such as deceased hospital patients from Kyrgyzstan[38] and executed prisoners from China – have never been used in a Body Worlds exhibition. In January 2004, the German news magazine Der Spiegel reported that von Hagens had acquired corpses of executed prisoners in China; von Hagens countered that he did not know the origin of the bodies, and returned seven disputed cadavers to China.[39] In 2004, von Hagens obtained an injunction against Der Spiegel for making the claims.[40] A commission set up by the California Science Center in Los Angeles in 2004 confirmed von Hagens' commitment to ethical practices, and published its Summary of Ethical Review.[41] The commission matched death certificates and body donation forms, and verified informed legal consent of the bodies in the exhibitions. However, to ensure the privacy and anonymity promised to body donors, Von Hagens' Institute for Plastination maintains a firewall between body donors' documentation and finished plastinated bodies. To date, more than 9,000 individuals have pledged to donate their bodies to the Institute for Plastination in Heidelberg, in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 well that's a relief at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 Yeah, I've gone to Body Worlds, and that rumour is news to me. And likewise, it's a (retroactive) relief that it is a rumour. "[A]rtistic poses" is a little misleading. The cadavers are put in life-like positions, but the exhibit is primarily informative, not artistic. It's intended for a general audience, not medical students, so a lot of effort is put into making it not seem like a cadaver lab. (I admit, I wasn't sure going in whether the attendees would treat it like some sideshow event. But that didn't seem to be the case, at least for the one I went to.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I just checked out the links, and I'm torn between being highly impressed and totally creeped out. On the one hand, as has been pointed out, that's one great work of taxidermy. On the other hand, the concept of a cat-copter makes something in the back of my mind say "No. Just no," and make me shudder a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 OOOOOh the smell must be horrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Originally Posted By: Erasmus OOOOOh the smell must be horrid The cat's been mounted. It shouldn't smell. Originally Posted By: Dintiradan "[A]rtistic poses" is a little misleading. The cadavers are put in life-like positions, but the exhibit is primarily informative, not artistic. Eh, most of the displays are informative, but some of the more dramatic displays are definitely art, like the man on a rearing horse or "Layers." (I don't know what makes the "Layers" more artistic than the other full body slices on display, but it is.) Dikiyoba has been to a few Body Worlds exhibits and doesn't see what's controversial about it. Yes, it's a bit gruesome, so it's not for the squeamish or very young children. And yes, there are genitals, so you'll want to leave the easily offended and the obnoxious twenty-somethings at home. Even with those issues, though, it just doesn't seem that problematic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Perhaps Erasmus is referring, poetically, to the rancid odor of our decaying morals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Meh. I'd worry more about how we treat live animals than how we treat dead ones. Dead cat don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 "When I die, I'm going to donate my body to science fiction." - Steven Wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 People donate their bodies as organs to save others, and it's a laudable thing. Others donate their remains to "science" or more normally students learning to become various medical professionals, and it's a service to everyone who will ever see a physician, or a dentist, or any of a number of other healthcare providers. But donate your body to what amounts to a mobile museum and it's disgusting? Even if it's an art museum, I at least see nothing inherently wrong with it. People choose to decay, get incinerated, or very occasionally get cryopreserved indefinitely. Why is being plasticized and displayed somehow worse? —Alorael, who would rather have his corpse go on to be useful somehow. Even being made into fertilizer and bone meal is better than just wasting space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Last month I made a stuffed and mounted malboro head. It turned out surprisingly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 I have no problem with the existence of Body World. I have not, however, attended. For some reason, my mostly left brained nature hits a wall when it comes to dissection or display of mammalian corpses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Originally Posted By: Christmas Freud in April —Alorael, who would rather have his corpse go on to be useful somehow. Even being made into fertilizer and bone meal is better than just wasting space. SOYLENT GREEN IS ALORAEL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 When I die, I want you all to preserve my body, and throw it to the zombie hoard. The apocalypse will happen any time now, and something has to feed the zombies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Actaeon Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I don't know that we have any taxidermist on Spiderweb. As an anthropology major, I have a cursory understanding of mummification, but I don't think that would cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 That guy is a jerk. Respect in this case would be NOT turning the cat into something it wasn't. Cats I am sure have no desire to be helicopters. You want to Taxidermy the animal fine, but why change it. If you change it, and keep it around, you didn't have respect or love for the original, and therefore should not have had it. "Oh, I always loved Mom in life. In fact, I think now that she's dead I'll swap her head for a flower pot, yeah, that will be an awesome memorial" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Originally Posted By: VCH That guy is a jerk. Respect in this case would be NOT turning the cat into something it wasn't. Cats I am sure have no desire to be helicopters. man have you even met a cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Originally Posted By: VCH "Oh, I always loved Mom in life. In fact, I think now that she's dead I'll swap her head for a flower pot, yeah, that will be an awesome memorial" Loved one pass away? Do you want to honour their memory? Have you considered animatronic taxidermy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Originally Posted By: John Denver, "Forest Lawn" To find a simple resting place is my desire. To lay me down with a smiling face comes a little bit higher. My likeness cast in brass will stand in plastic grass While hidden weights and springs tip its hat to the mourners filing past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 !NOW ZOMBIES HAVE COPTERS RUN! - HAHA! Thanks to Din AN OTHER EVIL PLOT FROM THE NEO-CONFORMISTS TO DESECRATE THE DEAD AND RAISE AN ARMY FROM THE UNDEAD HAS BEEN PREVENTED! - Originally Posted By: Dantius Originally Posted By: Christmas Freud in April —Alorael, who would rather have his corpse go on to be useful somehow. Even being made into fertilizer and bone meal is better than just wasting space. SOYLENT GREEN IS ALORAEL!!! SILENCE ALORAEL EATS PEOPLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I should have known better than to click that link. That is one weird dude. I would almost hope that cat came back as a pooka. Lilith, I have met a cat or two. Personally, I am more of a dog lover; therefore when my wife brought home that little gray ball of fluff, it set out to convert me into a cat person. Actually, he was not bad, as far as cats go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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