Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It's been some time since the last time we had this question go around. Also, with the new school term being in session for a while now, we've started to plot our opinions on political metrics like this one. Finally, I've refined my political philosophy to better be able to answer key questions, such that my answers have changed. Nothing, of course, beats the real deal: the Political Compass. Economic Left/Right: -6.12 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I'm somewhere in the neighborhood of Hitler on the test. The last time I checked, I was one down, but I might be one down and to the left by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -4.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.13 Honestly though, I think political tests like these aren't very much use. Maybe they need a z-axis or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -6.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10 So I'm like Gandhi. Huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 It's been years since I actually took the test. I'm now -7/-7.54. I've previously been somewhere around -6/-8, so I think things haven't changed too much. —Alorael, who thinks his biggest shifts have been economic, and his economic shifts have been recession-motivated. No, inflation is not a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Thats odd, my views seems to have shifted to a different . I'm going to have to take this again but now I know what not to answer so it should or should not be more accurate depending on how you look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Doctor Albert Halfmann Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -7.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08 Thank you, Goldenking, for giving us a compelling reason to retake the test! I'd been wanting to take it to see whether my views had changed significantly in the intervening five or six years since I'd taken it last. I have accessed the last political compass thread I participated in, from December 2005, to remind myself of where I stood back then. My scores were -7.50 and -0.26, respectively. So, while I was and remain quite liberal on economic issue, I have grown significantly more socially liberal. That is about what I would have expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan jlsgaladriel Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -7.12 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87 Well, I'm down around the Dalai Lama, Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela. That seems like rather a lot to live up to. O_o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 If I recall correctly, last time I took the test I was within one point on either axis from the origin. Now I'm (-1.88, -2.56). But there are so many questions where I throw up my hands and go "ehhh, it depends". Also, it takes a lot for me to put strongly agree/disagree; don't know if that's the case with others. Aran: Where did you keep the compass history? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: 8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.21 I resign to my corner once again! Edit: Huh, apparently it has a crowd chart feature, but it's rather messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I am Economic Left/Right -5.62, Authoritarian/Social Libertarian -1.28. Which I suppose isn't too surprising. I tend to be economically liberal, and social liberal on drugs, rehabilitation, and religion, but conservative on child raising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I wonder how much the results would differ if instead of using obvious core beliefs of liberal and conservative ideologies they went with less obvious decisions. I think some of us might be less hardcore than we think we are in our beliefs. —Alorael, who in particular suspects that his real economic views are not as far left as the compass puts them. Or, perhaps, there should be more room for more extreme economics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Nicothodes Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -7.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95 Huh, after reading most of these scores, I feel like an extremist. I think that Dintiradan's probably right and that it depends how likely you are to use the "strongly agree/disagree" options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -7.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.23 Technically, I don't feel strongly about much of any of that, but I used it because I know how they want those questions to be answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.87 I always knew I leaned a bit to the left. Ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I've mellowed a bit, apparently. Economic Left/Right: -7.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.26 I have archived several threads dating up to 2007. Unfortunately, the last two threads that I added to my statistics (October and December 2008) fall in the lost period after PPP4. 2003-06-07 http://pied-piper.ermarian.net/topic/1/948 Alec 2004-01-08 http://pied-piper.ermarian.net/topic/1/1492 Drakey 2005-06-24 http://pied-piper.ermarian.net/topic/1/2586 Stug 2005-12-09 http://pied-piper.ermarian.net/topic/1/3038 Aran 2006-11-01 http://pied-piper.ermarian.net/topic/1/3867 Salmon 2007-10-11 http://pied-piper.ermarian.net/topic/1/4515 Salmon While the discussions are gone, I recorded the data from both topics. http://ermarian.net/services/statistics/compass/map/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 By and large, the vast majority of posters on these forums appear to hold very similar views. I wonder why that is. Is there some correlation between people who hold those views and playing Jeff's games? Or is just those who become "regular" forum posters? I don't recall the numbers, but each time I've done this test, it puts me in the upper-right quadrant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Sullust Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -2.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08 Edit: It's a shame this test doesn't ask how I feel about senior citizens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Originally Posted By: Triumph I don't recall the numbers, but each time I've done this test, it puts me in the upper-right quadrant. how do you even manage to get into the upper right quadrant i mean seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -0.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.64 I seem to be in the majority quadrant, but more on the fence economically. It seems the more I learn about and observe the practice of economics, the more I realise there are no simple answers, so I fairly well disagreed with all the statements on the test. Oh well. Edit: Even so, based on the chart on the results page, -0.62 puts me to the left of mainstream politicians. Which makes sense given my voting record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk The Loquacious Lord Grimm Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 @Aran: Thanks yet again for the archives. Economic Left/Right: -1.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.92 Still hovering around the center, though a little less communist than normal. Ah, the woes of being a free-market socialist Originally Posted By: Sylae Honestly though, I think political tests like these aren't very much use. Maybe they need a z-axis or something They haven't clarified any of those heavily-nuanced-issue questions, so a good portion of our results still rely on what kind of mood one is in, and how each of us chooses to interpret things at the time. (The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. Sometimes, they're both equally wrong. And sometimes, you don't trust them enough to make an alliance.) I guess I'm feeling a little less charitable than normal. Thing is, I tend to disagree with both ends of the given spectra, for different, conditional reasons that vary upon different, conditional circumstances. That, and yes, it needs a Z axis. If general economic tendency and overall breadth of the state's reach were the only two issues to consider in any vote, then there would never be any difficulty in selecting a candidate. The difficulty, of course, is in finding and agreeing upon the criteria for a third set of parameters. _________________________ The Silent Assassin's Economic Left/Right score oscillates between -4.8 and 7.2, depending on the party alignment of holders of public office at the time of testing. Today, it stands at 3.26. The Social Libertarian/Authoritarian always remains a solid 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 I still don't know what the "enemy of my enemy" question does. I've always assumed that agreement indicated a polarised neoconservative Good/Evil worldview, but I'm not actually sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 -9.38, -8.00. The last time I did it, I got -7.00, -9.33, so apparently I'm more socialist and less libertarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Looking at the last test that we have records for, I've become more extreme in both sections. I'd peg this to my more liberal use of the "strongly agree" and "strongly disagree" choices. Originally Posted By: Lt. Sullust Edit: It's a shame this test doesn't ask how I feel about senior citizens... Consider this a test. How do you feel about senior citizens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -6.12 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.74 That's about where Dikiyoba always ends up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -0.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.10 Surprised? So was I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Archmagus Micael Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -6.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.08 I still think Corporations are out to get us all. - Archmagus Micael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Funny story: I just retook the test, trying to score as far in the upper right quadrant as possible... and the browser crashed. It literally does not compute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -0.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92 There we go. EDIT: Does this measure the U.S. notion of left/right or on the broader global notion of left right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Originally Posted By: Rowen EDIT: Does this measure the U.S. notion of left/right or on the broader global notion of left right? I'd assume global, since there seems to be a lot of stuff from across the pond around that site. Unless the Britain is more US-ey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Dintiradan Funny story: I just retook the test, trying to score as far in the upper right quadrant as possible... and the browser crashed. It literally does not compute. There's an undocumented feature to show individual histories instead of community clusters, and it appears we're slowly approaching each other. Though you're moving far more rapidly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Cairo Jim Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -3.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Originally Posted By: Arancaytar There's an undocumented feature to show individual histories instead of community clusters, and it appears we're slowly approaching each other. Though you're moving far more rapidly. Click to reveal.. (Map) <img src="http://ermarian.net/services/statistics/compass/map/?name=Dintiradan,Arancaytar&img=1"/> Does this mean you'll stop calling me fascist now? Anyway, the only reason you're not moving as quickly is because you don't have anywhere to move to. You pinko commie you. Seriously though, a question for everyone: are you answering the quiz based on your personal opinions, or on the policies your ideal government would have? I think I did the former when I first started doing the quiz, and I was definitely doing the latter this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Archmagus Micael Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Personal, though many of the questions are very ambiguous with regards to interpretation. Though surely your ideal Government would roughly follow the same principles you hold dear? - Archmagus Micael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Dintiradan Arancaytar There's an undocumented feature to show individual histories instead of community clusters, and it appears we're slowly approaching each other. Though you're moving far more rapidly. Does this mean you'll stop calling me fascist now? Anyway, the only reason you're not moving as quickly is because you don't have anywhere to move to. You pinko commie you. Seriously though, a question for everyone: are you answering the quiz based on your personal opinions, or on the policies your ideal government would have? I think I did the former when I first started doing the quiz, and I was definitely doing the latter this time around. That back then was a joke, albeit arguably in poor taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Cairo Jim Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Both. Some asnwers were more easily answered with personal opinion, while the rest would be moreso "ideal government". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Originally Posted By: Archmagus Micael Personal, though many of the questions are very ambiguous with regards to interpretation. Though surely your ideal Government would roughly follow the same principles you hold dear? My ideal government has an opinion on as few things as possible. Also, there are a lot of questions of the form "A is better than B", which I responded with "Disagree", because the statement isn't always true. But if the statement said "B is better than A", I would still respond with "Disagree". Originally Posted By: Arancaytar Originally Posted By: Dintiradan Originally Posted By: Arancaytar There's an undocumented feature to show individual histories instead of community clusters, and it appears we're slowly approaching each other. Though you're moving far more rapidly. Click to reveal.. (Map) <img src="http://ermarian.net/services/statistics/compass/map/?name=Dintiradan,Arancaytar&img=1"/> Does this mean you'll stop calling me fascist now? Anyway, the only reason you're not moving as quickly is because you don't have anywhere to move to. You pinko commie you. Seriously though, a question for everyone: are you answering the quiz based on your personal opinions, or on the policies your ideal government would have? I think I did the former when I first started doing the quiz, and I was definitely doing the latter this time around. That back then was a joke, albeit arguably in poor taste. Oh, I see. And here I was, thinking that you actually thought that I was a fascist for being (2, 2). This is my serious face helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Okay, fine, I retook it. [6.971, 1.55] for me (in polar coordinates, of course). I think that the best choice for a z-axis would be religion. I mean, most hardcore free-markets worship at Rand's feet, but there' probably a pretty huge gulf between her and her fans in that she was atheist and they are, for the most part, not. It would certainly bump my score up and to the right a bit, and give me the extra bonus of having an entire octant to myself (atheist, free-market, authoritarian). Speaking of having regions to myself, here's the unified plot of all Spiderweb members who have posted thus far. It's a bit messy, if only because apparently everyone here has virtually identical political ideals: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Karoka Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dantius map *Looks at Excalibur in the bottom-right corner* Do you sit by yourself at lunch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Sullust Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I would disagree with that assessment. Certainly there are some clusters; however, that doesn't necessarily indicate that the answers were the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I would imagine if you added a religion axis you would still have a rather crowded octant. Originally Posted By: Flame Fiend Originally Posted By: Dantius map *Looks at Excalibur in the bottom-right corner* Do you sit by yourself at lunch? I don't have lunch, unless you count coffee as lunch. Quite frankly, being in that position means I can agree with almost anybody on at least a few political issues. I'm not sure why you would equate that with being a social outcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dintiradan Seriously though, a question for everyone: are you answering the quiz based on your personal opinions, or on the policies your ideal government would have? I answered based on ideal government. Although there are definitely some questions that have to be based on personal opinion. Originally Posted By: Excalibur I don't have lunch, Fascist! Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Originally Posted By: Excalibur I don't have lunch, Fascist! Dikiyoba. I had a difficult time taking over the world when I was giving everyone three meals a day. Propaganda doesn't work very well at lunchtime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 It seems as though I am late to the party. Economic Left/Right: -3.62 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85 Not really a surprise for me. Like some others, I hesitate to go with the "very" options and thus tended to be closer to the origin. Originally Posted By: Dantius Okay, fine, I retook it. [6.971, 1.55] for me (in polar coordinates, of course). Do you prefer cylindrical or spherical coordinates for your three-dimensional map? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Originally Posted By: Master1 Originally Posted By: Dantius Okay, fine, I retook it. [6.971, 1.55] for me (in polar coordinates, of course). Do you prefer cylindrical or spherical coordinates for your three-dimensional map? Spherical, since the "r" value for a 2-D plane could be interpreted as the level of political "extremism" (for lack of a better word), so since it's a useful metric it should be preserved into 3 dimensions as well- which cylindrical would not do. And on an unrelated note, what on earth is the "cheerful things" question supposed to measure? I don't understand what that has to do with political orientation at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dantius And on an unrelated note, what on earth is the "cheerful things" question supposed to measure? I don't understand what that has to do with political orientation at all... I interpreted it as whether or not you think depressed people can/should be able to "pull themselves together" without outside support. I suppose it measures how you feel about social work in general, but it's a stretch. But yeah, half the questions are "ehhh, it depends" and the other half are "well, duh". All those questions about multiculturalism as basically asking "Are you Hitler?" That said, the Compass still has a long ways to go before it's as blatant as this quiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I guess an authoritarian regime would expect you to adopt that kind of thinking so you're more likely to forget all the negative aspects of said regime. I'm not sure if that's what they're getting at, but I'm pretty sure it affects your authoritarian/libertarian score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Originally Posted By: Dintiradan But yeah, half the questions are "ehhh, it depends" and the other half are "well, duh". All those questions about multiculturalism as basically asking "Are you Hitler?" That said, the Compass still has a long ways to go before it's as blatant as this quiz. I purposely pick out the Hitler questions and take the "Yes, I am in fact Hitler" options on them in order to counterbalance the shift down the y axis that results from answering all the religious questions with "No, that's stupid". It averages out to a close approximation of my views in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Fascinating: I purposely pick out and take the "Yes, I am the Spanish Inquisition" options to counterbalance the "Yes, I am Hitler" options. :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Oh my, that's not right. Economic Left/Right: 10.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 7.28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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