Garrulous Glaahk Rionep Ecnirp Etlevs Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Pylons. I think it's a bunch of baloney that the adventurers who forged across the frontier (building new pylons) wouldn't have been supplied plenty of crystals to attune themselves to the pylons. Rather than send a party of travelers to get whittled down in each new land, why not provide them the means to warp back, refresh, and resupply. I'm referring to the team you meet in Muck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 The Crystals were not ready yet, iirc. Regardless, they're adventurers, and the Empire isn't going to really care about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 or they lost their crystal pack during voyage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Rionep Ecnirp Etlevs Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 Losing their pack is the only acceptable reason. They were sent forth by the crown, or at least the portal fortress, and there is no logic to building a warp structure in faraway lands before the technology exists to utilizing it (i.e., returning via tuned pylon). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Mordea Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Originally Posted By: Svelte Prince Penoir Pylons. I think it's a bunch of baloney that the adventurers who forged across the frontier (building new pylons) wouldn't have been supplied plenty of crystals to attune themselves to the pylons. Rather than send a party of travelers to get whittled down in each new land, why not provide them the means to warp back, refresh, and resupply. I'm referring to the team you meet in Muck. I always thought that it was bs as well. It was just contrived to give an excuse as to why you can't warp anywhere immediately after accessing the first pylon. But funnily enough, there is no need for such an excuse. As the game makes clear, you need to visualise where you wish to be teleported to. You can't visualise a place if you haven't been there yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Except in Avernum 4 where you can get sent to the Fort Spire pylon without having been there. The crystals to activate the pylons is just an excuse to explain a fast method of moving around the game map. Some people just don't want to waste time walking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Some things are best not examined too closely. If we want to be sticklers, one character really shouldn't be able to haul around fifteen suits of armour. Or a hundred iron bars. Or a thousand vials of skribbane. Even thirty thousand coins would get a bit heavy. Plausibility is a victim of expedience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 at least teleporting is easier now than it was at 1st trilogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 nothing like ernest huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 yea nor finding codes to be able to tport to that place (and remembering what each code meant). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk MissSea Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 You would think if the crystals were so important, they would be all over that like flies on ... well ... you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted February 2, 2010 Share Posted February 2, 2010 unless those are special made and/or require certain magic-level and doubt Empire sends to Avernum magician whois capable to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer beren terino Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Originally Posted By: The Turtle Moves Some things are best not examined too closely. If we want to be sticklers, one character really shouldn't be able to haul around fifteen suits of armour. Or a hundred iron bars. Or a thousand vials of skribbane. Even thirty thousand coins would get a bit heavy. Plausibility is a victim of expedience. Get a cart? On the other hand, I never figured out why you could be encumbered by all that extra weight in your inventory (non-equipped items). It would take less than a second to drop your big sack of loot and pick it up again after the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Originally Posted By: beren terino Originally Posted By: The Turtle Moves Some things are best not examined too closely. If we want to be sticklers, one character really shouldn't be able to haul around fifteen suits of armour. Or a hundred iron bars. Or a thousand vials of skribbane. Even thirty thousand coins would get a bit heavy. Plausibility is a victim of expedience. Get a cart? On the other hand, I never figured out why you could be encumbered by all that extra weight in your inventory (non-equipped items). It would take less than a second to drop your big sack of loot and pick it up again after the battle. Then you'd need some cart animal to pull it around, and that can probably get killed by your enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Originally Posted By: Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Then you'd need some cart animal to pull it around, and that can probably get killed by your enemies. some dragon carrying loot and would be bit hard to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Originally Posted By: Earth Empires some dragon carrying loot and would be bit hard to kill. Dragons are rare, proud, and extremely likely to make off with the party's loot. They are hardly good candidates for cart-pulling. Also, if you did manage to get a dragon on your side, it would make far more sense to send the dragon out to attack enemies while the party remains behind to pull the cart. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug GIFTCockroach Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Standard issue equipment for soldiers includes magically levitating bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 They don't have to levitate, they just have to be dimensionally transcendental. The interior, besides being enormously larger than the exterior, is also located somewhere else, so weight is irrelevant. It's Mary Poppins' carpetbag a la Dr. Who. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Dragons are rare, proud, and extremely likely to make off with the party's loot. They are hardly good candidates for cart-pulling. Also, if you did manage to get a dragon on your side, it would make far more sense to send the dragon out to attack enemies while the party remains behind to pull the cart. Dikiyoba. I remember in A2 talking to a farmer about using dragons, or taming them, he showed his gnawed by a lizard stump for an arm instead... don't now where he is... strangely enough his NPC was two handed... No one needs carts, when they have the all mighty flight orb! Die mortal monsters, die! De burnt by divine smite and roaring celestial fire! muhhhahahahahah!!!! Oh, yes, murhh, about the orb, is it possible to mass commercialise it, or is it still some sort of strange arcane magical artefact, never to be made again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Originally Posted By: upon mars Oh, yes, murhh, about the orb, is it possible to mass commercialise it, or is it still some sort of strange arcane magical artefact, never to be made again... The latter. Click to reveal.. (Spoiler alert!) And apparently, it's now destroyed, so that's not even a possibility anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 My god it's painful! Even so, there is no possibility some sort of crystal transportation, is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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