Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Some canisters are only available to players that have joined a speciic faction. You can only get one reward from the Testing Hall. Fire Shaping Create Fyora - Foundry Promenade (spellbook), Testing Hall Shaping Reward, Haria -Kel (canister) Create Roamer - Whitespire Pass (canister) Create Drayk - Foundry Repository (Repository D - Trakovite) (canister), Podling Crossroads (canister) Create Kyshakk - Secret Laboratory (canister) Create Drakon - Gazaki-Uss (canister), Kayar's Spire Cells (canister), Inner Gazaki-Uss (canister) Battle Shaping Create Thahd - West Foundry Core (canister) Create Clawbug - Testing Hall Shaping Reward, Kratoa Stoneworks (canister) Create Battle Alpha - West Shadow Road (canister) Create Rotghroth - West Passes (canister) Create War Trall - Gazaki-Uss (canister), Camp West Alpha (canister) Magic Shaping Create Artila - Foundry Core (canister) Create Vlsih - Kaz (canister) Create Glaahk - Gorash-Kel (canister) Create Wingbolt - Bonepeak Ruins (canister) Create Gazer - Gazaki-Uss (canister), Dera Lost Vault (canister),Inner Gazaki-Uss (canister) Create Ornk - Lost Dera Vault (canister) Healing Craft Minor Heal - Inner Gazaki- Uss (canister) Cure Affliction - Testing Hall Healing Craft Reward Essence Infusion - Isenwood's Spire (canister), Testing Hall Healing Craft Reward Heal - Testing Hall Healing Craft Reward Regeneration Aura - Infested Crossroads (canister) Group Heal - Murkwood (canister), Foundry Repository (Repository Key D - Trakovite) (canister) Banish Affliction - Gazaki-Uss (canister) Major Heal - Mountain Crossroad (canister) Cleanse Group - Lerman's Pass (canister) Mass Restore - Zephyr Oasis (canister) Battle Magic Firebolt - Inner Gazaki-Uss (canister) Burning Spray Searer - Testing Hall Battle Reward Icy Spray - North Mera Road (canister) Lightning Aura - Foundry Repository (Repository key D - Trakovite) (canister) Shocking Rain - Nodye Pass (canister) Acid Shower - Abandoned Farms (canister) Kill - Haria-Kel (canister) if in Astoria's faction Essence Lances - Perikalia Orchards (canister) Purifying Rain - Gazaki-Uss (canister), Kayar's Spire (canister) Mental Magic Daze - Kratao-Kel (canister - 2 levels) Mindshield Aura Wrack - Foundry Core East (canister) Unlock - East Shadow Road (canister) Terror - Penta (canister) Dominate - Stormhold (canister) Essence Shackles - Fort Defiance (canister) Strong Daze - Middle Shadow Road (canister) Charm - Gazaki-Uss (canister) - Lethia Pass quest reward and in Laboratory Mass Madness - Pacification Road (canister) Blessing Magic War Blessing Protection Essence Shield - Hatra Ruins (canister - 2 levels) Speed - Testing Hall Battle Reward, Southwestern Okavano (cansiter) Thorny Aura - Mera Fields (buy - canister) Battle Aura - Helft Ruins (canister) Essence Blade - Thistlewood (canister) Essence Armor - Outside Gazaki-Uss (canister) Elemental Aura - Gorash-Kel (canister) Battle Roar - Gazaki-Uss (canister), Lethia Pass (canister) Strength - Control Core B (canister) Missle Weapons - Foundry Repository (Repository key D - Trakovite) (canister) Blessing Magic - Bennhold's Keeep (canister) Healing Craft - Lost Dera Vault (Sage Taygen faction) Zones zone 2 - Isenwood's Spire - Essence Infusion (cansister) zone 3 - Foundry Promenade - Create Fyora (spellbook) zone 4 - The Testing Hall - Rewards (only one group) Battle magic - Searing and Speed Shaping - Create Fyora and Create Clawbug Healing - Cure Affliction, Essence Infusion, and Heal zone 5 - West Foundry Core - Create Thahd (canister) zone 6 - Foundry Core East - Wrack (canister) zone 7 - Foundry Core - Create Artila (canister) zone 8 - Foundry Repository - Repository Key D (Trakovite) - (canisters) Lightning Aura, Create Drayk, Group Heal, Missle Weapons zone 9 - Whitespire Pass - Create Roamer (canister) zone 10 - North Mera Road - Icy Spray (canister) zone 12 - Haria-Kel - Create Fyora (canister) Kill (canister) if in Astoria's faction zone 14 - Mera Fields - Spine Shield (canister) zone 15 - Battle Aura (canister) zone 16 - Infested Crossroads - Regeneration Aura (canister) zone 17 - Kaz - Create Vlsih (canister) zone 18 - Murkwood - Group Heal (canister) zone 21 - Nodye Pass - Shocking Rain (canister) zone 22 - Penta - Terror (canister) zone 25 - Gorash-Kel - Create Glaahk (canister), Elemental Aura (canister) zone 26 - West Shadow Road (canister) zone 27 - East Shadow Road - Unlock (canister) zone 28 - Middle Shadow Road - Strong Daze (canister) zone 29 - Secret Laboratory - Create Kyshakk (canister) zone 31 - Southwestern Okavano - Speed (canister) zone 35 - Kratoa-Kel - Daze (canister -2 levels) zone 36 - Kratoa Stoneworks - Create Clawbug (canister) zone 37 - Lerman's Pass - Cleanse Group (canister) zone 39 - Hatra Ruins - Essence Shield (canister - 2 levels) zone 42 - Stormhold - Dominate (canister) zone 43 - Podling Crossroads - Create Drayk (canister) zone 44 - West Passes - Create Rotghroth (canister) zone 45 - Fort Defiance - Essence Shackles (canister) zone 46 - Abandoned Farms - Acid Shower (canister) zone 47 - Mountain Crossroad - Major Heal (canister) zone 49 - Thistlewood - Essence Blade (canister) zone 52 - Control Core B - Strenght (canister) zone 58 - Outside Gazaki-Uss - Essence Armor (canister) zone 59 - Bonepeak Ruins - Create Wingbolt (canister) zone 60 - Gazaki-Uss - Banish Affliction (canister) - room opened by Mehken Charm (canister) - Mehken's Lethia Pass quest reward Create War Trall (canister) - Ghaldring's Break the Line quest reward Create Drakon (canister) - Ghaldring's Reach Tholoss quest reward ? Create Gazer (canister) - Ghaldring's Four Shapers quest 1st reward? Charm (canister) Battle Roar (canister) Purifying Rain (canister) zone 62 - Perikalia Orchards - Essence Lances (canister) zone 64 - Zephyr Oasis - Mass Restore (canister) zone 65 - Camp West Alpha - Create War Trall (canister) zone 67 - Lethia Pass - Battle Roar (canister) zone 69 - Bennhold's Keep - Blessing Magic (canister) zone 71 - Dera Lost Vault - Create Gazer (canister), Create Ornk (canister) Sage Taygen faction - Healing Craft (canister) zone 74 - Pacification Road - Mass Madness (canister) zone 76 - Kayar's Spire Cells - Create Drakon (canister) zone 77 - Kayar's Spire - Purifying Rain (canister) Endgame zone 61 - Inner Gazaki-Uss - Firebolt (canister) Minor Heal (canister) Create Drakon (canister) Create Gazer (canister) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody The Lurker Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Fantastic work as usual, Randomizer. The fact that there's only one Ornk canister forever shatters my dream to make Oozing Beasts or Ornk Lords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Quiconque Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Are the secondary creations (Cryoa, etc) all the same as in G5, or have any changed? Anybody got a list? Edit: And if anybody could post a list of essence cost for all creations (I'm assuming there have been a few tweaks, as usual) it would be greatly appreciated as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Blurb Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Are there penalties for spending skill points and/or using canisters and books when it comes to trainers? If I have already used two canisters of fyora, for example, can I still train in it twice? I'm just wondering if it's best to wait until later to use canisters or train with books. Also, how much does it affect game play to use the canisters in G5? I'm wondering how violent/unstable my character will become. :=) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 23, 2008 Author Share Posted November 23, 2008 The order of trainers and canisters doesn't matter. From what I've seen, there is no longer the automatic go into combat from using too many canister. This may be due to how your character gets its powers as relearning them from your past canister abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Dahak Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Anyone know the flag for canister use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Try sdf 100 22 #of canisters used It's checked in z63dbridgedlg.txt when you talk to the guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Do the canisters that give you 2 levels of a skill still count as only one canister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 double canister! i may have to play as a canister crazy rebel! well, i will anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Dahak Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 <-- This you. Link <-- This is you on canisters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 How does one reach the canister in Bennhold's Keep? It's on the other side of a river and I can't seem to get at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 There's a secret lever behind a pillar quite some distance to the south that opens up a passage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Are any of these canisters bought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Vempele Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 The one in Mera Fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd gnesterenko Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hi Guys, Thanks for the guide, definetly helped me out. There's one canister that's giving me trouble though... in the very list of this forum, the one in Zone 17 (zone isn't labled) - Create Vlish. Well for one, not knowing the zone makes it difficult to begin with, but that aside... I did clear the zones around it and I'm not sure that I missed any, but I guess I must have. In any case, if someone could point me in the right direction, would much appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted May 3, 2009 Author Share Posted May 3, 2009 Zone 17 is Kaz. It's in a locked room that is easily accesible from the East Shadow Road zone exit. At least you won't be seen if you are in fight mode and careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted May 3, 2009 Share Posted May 3, 2009 Honestly, I've managed to do pretty much every stealth thing in the game without combat mode. Maybe it makes it easier, but it definitely isn't a must (except maybe the uber-mined room in the zone that's escaping me right now...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 you missed a drayk canister i beleive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 never mind...i found it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Juan Carlo Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 OK, we've established that canisters don't seem to affect your gameplay like previous geneforge games, but if you use too many will they change your ending? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Short answer: no. Long answer: naaah. You've already been modified by the Geneforge, so you're about as warped and crazy as you're ever going to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Warped by the geneforge twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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