Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 how do iget in the crypt, i kow that you have to find a key but where is the key to enter? and any way what is in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 You need a crescent stone, which you get by killing one of two special monsters. One of them is in the western wastes, if I remember rightly. As for what's inside the shaper crypt: lots of dead shapers. What do you expect? Just because they're dead doesn't stop them attacking you, however... For fuller answers, consult the FAQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody We Didn't Shard of Fire Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Actually, you need the crescent stone to get into Inner Crypt. Shaper Crypt...I dunno, I think I just used all my living tools to get in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Dikiyoba doesn't think there's a key to enter the Shaper Crypt, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 There's no key required, just an object called a Crescent Stone. I found one on a monster in the Western Wastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Aequitas Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 You haven't been to the crypt in G1? Oh, I remember that. Me, the little Shaper, with his fyora, drayk, and glaahk, bravely walking into the unknown. I turned a corner, and collapsed into a little pool of blood on the floor. You want advice? Build an army of either battle betas or cryodrayks and then train for a month or two before even THINKING about going in there. And as for what's in there... *MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 In order to stop the newbie from being chased away by the spirits of not-so-helpful members. . . There are pylons. Lots of them. Tons, in fact. There are also these demonic little shaping machines that constantly make Battle Alphas and Glaahks to go and rip you to peices. And then theres the Inner Crypt. There are literally unstoppable platforms that constantly spawn Cryodrayks, Ur-Glaahks, and Battle Betas(Possibly Gammas). Don't even go into the room where the platforms are, unless you have used the Geneforge and have seven Cryodrayks at your unbreakable command. Oh, shoot. -X- just scared away the newbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 The pylons aren't bad at all (at least in the Shaper Crypt). If you have mind nutrients, you can tell the servant mind to turn the pylons off. Dikiyoba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Yes, but -X- used up all of the mind nutrients in the game by the time he went there. Which was right before he left on the blown-up Avernum boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I went in there with my lone agent on torment. You need to stay hasted and creep up on the pylons so you can blast them one by one. Move in slowly so you don't get swarmed and it's not too bad. Hit and run tactics of Delicious Vlish are the best for winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 -X- played through Geneforge with a sole Guardian intent on using no canisters at all. Playing on Torment, he succeeded after a couple of months. . . But he found Glaahks to be all but invincible when there is another creation nearby. So, with the Glaahk and Battle Alpha duos in the Crypts, -X- was slaughtered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Good Canisters Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Either don't play torment here or use the Geneforge first, or prepare for the equivalent of the Monestary in GF 3. Actually, the shaper crypt is even harder, if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I prefer to level up a lot, especially before the Inner Crypt. I also like to have at least a couple of levels of "Create Glaahk" before heading into the Shaper Crypt, and the ability to make Ur-Glaahks before entering the Inner Crypt. And I don't play the GF series on torment; no real reason, just personal preference (that, and I tend to get eaten alive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 It's not so bad, really. Well, yes, it's bad. But staying in combat mode the whole darn time makes it much less horrendous, simply because it cuts down dramatically on the number of freshly spawned monsters you have to face. And if you know where to go, so you don't have to flop back and forth across the burning pads too many times, this also helps a lot. Strolling through the Inner Crypt in normal mode is a death march even after using the Geneforge. Except perhaps for a Shaper; a large force of high-level Cryodrayks might be able to fry the random monsters easily. Funny, I guess I never tried that. I tried it with a Geneforged Agent and got pwned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Good Canisters Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Generally, follow a few guidelines to this difficult location: - If you're an Agent or a Guardian, its very important to use the Geneforge before attempting this area. From what I heard, its impossible at the higher difficulties without. Shapers can give their creations (up to a) + 8 to all stats by using the Geneforge and absorbing and reshaping their creations. - Make sure you're well prepared. All the best equips for the location, all training needed, done, used all canisters (optional), pods and spore may be necessary especially for a Guardian. Make sure you sell all unneeded items or drop them to keep your AP at the max. - Make a good strategy. A general guideline is to stay in combat mode to reduce the spawned creations. Well hasted Agents are good at hit and run tactics. Missle Guardians can do the same. Shapers should get a lot (5 - 7) high leveled, advanced creations (e.g. glaahks, ur-glaahks, drayks, cryodrayks.) and mass energize them. Attack as a group when possible, and make sure your Shaper isn't picked off and gets killed in a single hit. Melee Guardians, well good luck. Heavy armor is a must. - Finally, don't be stubborn at force yourself to do this at torment. You should tone down the difficulty if it is too hard. - Oh yes, and don't be stubborn but persevere! If you are challenging yourself on this level, be prepared to reload 20+ times. I'll add more if I can think of more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 If you stay in combat mode the whole time, the Inner Crypt is totally doable on Torment with an Agent, without using the Geneforge. A good challenge, but it shouldn't even take multiple tries. Whether you can do it without unacceptable engine abuse, I can't recall. I did it long ago, and my conscience about such things was under-developed then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Good Canisters Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I know it's definitely possible to beat the crypt without the Geneforge at easy/normal with a medium leveled character. A high level can probably do it at Tricky, but I really don't know how you can beat the entire thing at torment. I've noticed since I started playing torment that my enemies start hitting huge amounts and never miss, bonuses of like 70-100% more damage, and 25-50 % more accuracy. Even if you killed everything on the island, torment would take much perseverance to do... EDIT: Comparisons are between torment and tricky. The gap would be much bigger at easier difficulties compared to torment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Aequitas Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I find that several cryodrayks are quite effective, with possible a few ur-glaahks or battle betas. And my Guardian seems to do quite well in there, with 300+ damage/hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Thank you for you're diddling answers and as you logout do not fail to notice a blade in backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Ijuuin Enzan Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 That's really the most ungrateful reply I've heard in a long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Quote: do not fail to notice a blade in backs Priceless. It's like being insulted by Hugo Chavez, only he's trying to use English instead of his native language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Originally by opon mars: Quote: ...as you logout do not fail to notice a blade in backs. Dikiyoba is glad Dikiyoba never logs out then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I'm more interesting in what 'diddling' meant. But for the help you received, you could have chosen a number of friendlier words or phrases to express your gratitude. 'Thank you', 'Thanks again', 'You suck'... You get the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Good Canisters Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Quote: Originally written by opon mars:Thank you for you're diddling answers and as you logout do not fail to notice a blade in backs. And do not fail to fight my GF 2 Guardian with level 18 parry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Then thak you nocia and do not fail to notice a blade (that in spite of your high parry good canisters) in your wonded back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Good Canisters Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Quote: Originally written by opon mars:Then thak you nocia and do not fail to notice a blade (that in spite of your high parry good canisters) in your wonded back. First of all, my Guardian isn't wonded, or wounded. Even if I did take a blade to the back, I would live, and deliver a total of 4 strikes (2 QA strikes, since I upped by QA by the 2k QA trainer). Even if you would survive that and kill me (I highly doubt you'd act faster than my insanely high level of QA, either) my rogue drakon would finish you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Aequitas Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Quote: Originally written by opon mars:Thank you for you're diddling answers and as you logout do not fail to notice a blade in backs. Diddling? Perhaps you meant piddling? I do not think you could really defeat my Level 52 Shaper, complete with two Drakon bodyguards, who, when hasted, usually stomp, whomp, or chomp whatever I tell them to. They understand the concept of "I point, you stab." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Quote: Originally written by opon mars:Then thak you nocia and do not fail to notice a blade (that in spite of your high parry good canisters) in your wonded back. Better. Though my name may seem somewhat similar, however, I must stress that I am NOT a cell phone company. Thank you, and have a nice day. -------------------- I'm sorry, but I really couldn't help adding that last bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 This is shaping up to be the best thread ever. Do say something else, opon mars. Keep this crazy train rolling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 I am entirely confused, but I think it's fair to say that the question that was originally asked in this thread was answered, and there's not much more to say. Play nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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