Kyshakk Koan Tcheedchee Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Browsing through the games available at Spiderweb's, I read (with some discomfort), that Avernum 6 and Geneforge 5 have both been depicted as the final sequel of either series. Is Jeff Vogel gonna close-down spiderweb? What's gonna happen next? Would he be starting a totally new series? It would be such a pity if he just resigned. I wouldn't understand why either – except for that he might have something more interesting to do. The games are so much fun, and the community of players seems to be big enough… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 There's going to be a new series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Jeff mentioned a prequel to Avernum and then regretted it when he saw the support for it. He doesn't want to get locked in to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan jlsgaladriel Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 This thread discusses what we know about the new series. Then, in true Spiderweb style, it veers off into a discussion of the realtionship between Norse mythology, Wagner, gender equity, and Tolkien... ... but you'll still get what you're looking for there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Tcheedchee Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Thanks jisgaladriel, I enjoy the Spiderweb-style discussions very much… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Exile 3 was the last game in the Exile series, and A3 was as well by dint of being a simple remake. Then A4 happened. So no, the Geneforge and Avernum series might not be completely over. What we know for certain is that Jeff does not, as of right now, have any intention to continue them. —Alorael, who might even go so far as to say that Jeff has a minor intention not to continue them just so he isn't stuck in a lucrative rut. Still, he hasn't sworn that they're over yet. That's something for those who want to see more to cling to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 In the meantime, it's always possible to continue both series (though it might be harder for Geneforge) in BoA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Tcheedchee Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yeah, I can imagine, that Jeff doesn't want to get stuck on stuff. That's good. What does BoA mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Blades of Avernum. It is like a coffee machine except instead of being for coffee it is for Avernum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Wow. That's an odd simile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 He didn't say it was espresso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Avernum latte, mmmmm. I just hope it isn't made of lichen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 In fact there seem to be no hot beverages in Avernum, though there are a few teapots and teacups. Nor is there any hot food, actually, though there are ovens for baking bread, and forges. You know what? I'm having second thoughts about busting my hump to save this benighted place, when all it will ever give me in my lunchbox is mushroom ale and cold weird meat. Let's just leave it all to the pustulent zombies. Maybe Upper Avernum has a decent barbecue somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Join the Empire, we have shish kabobs and cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity In fact there seem to be no hot beverages in Avernum, though there are a few teapots and teacups. Not true. I'm positive that you are offered tea at some point in you adventures. Granted, it is mold tea, but a hot beverage nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Silverlocke, A1. She also feeds the party unsweetened mushroom cookies. Also in A2, where it is identified as 'fungus tea'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I think that Lark also offers you some in A5, but I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Fire lizard meat comes pre-heated. —Alorael, who is also fairly sure that a few games give you hot stew. It is probably A1 that gives you the most notable stew by way of ogre. Your party is unlikely to consume it, but it is hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 Elderan's Tower in A2 had a notable pot of stew as well, though Dikiyoba doesn't remember the ogre stew well enough to compare them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 In BoA, Adrift has a pot of stew. Still not sure how it tastes, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Originally Posted By: Dantius I think that Lark also offers you some in A5, but I'm not sure. You're thinking of the mayor of New Hartson. She offers the party some tea when you first meet her. It's disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 It beats the food in Erika's Tower. It's to die for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 in A4 the sliths are making people stew. YUM!! wait that might be an alter not a stewpot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I've never played any of the Avernum games, but I'm pretty sure the set of graphics shares a lot with Geneforge. And since in Geneforge there are fire pits, I assume that there are fire pits in Avernum also. And one would assume that someone with some meat and a fire would have enough sense to use the two together (there are exceptional cases, ie: zombies, or just someone who likes raw meat, so your mileage may vary). Another thing, in the GF games(so I'm assuming in Avernum also) it never specifies whether the meat is hot or cold, it just says that it's meat. Just my two cents. EDIT: Checked the screen shots, you can see a meat-shaped object over a fire here. Pretty sure it's not just for decoration (well, actually it is. Just not to the gremlins). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 I bemoan the loss of the gremlins' disco suits from the Exile series. What are they wearing now, animal skins? That's not what a TRUE gremlin would wear, let me tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 What animal has a bright purple skin like that*? Or was that another graphic that got ruined changed in A4 and later? * An Ice Lizard, possibly, although those are a bit paler, at least when alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Originally Posted By: Niemand What animal has a bright purple skin like that*? a gremlin gremlins shed their skin like snakes and use the excess skin to make dapper skin jackets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Originally Posted By: Niemand What animal has a bright purple skin like that? An animal that has been dyed. After it died, presumably. —Alorael, who isn't sure where you think purple comes from in the real world either, but he assures you that it isn't from purple cows. The poets generally agree on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Well purple dye is supposed to have traditionally been one of the most difficult ones to make. In the real world it comes from Phoenicia, of course. My high-school history classes were quite clear on this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 It comes from these. Or at least, it used to, back in the good old days. Of course, we also had to walk uphill both ways in the snow to find the snails, which was pretty difficult considering how infrequently it snows around the Mediterranean. EDIT: Dangit! You're kidding me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 The history of dyes is actually pretty cool. I can usually astonish people by informing them that the color magenta was named after a battle. It's true; Magenta is or was a village somewhere in northern Italy, and in 1860-ish the French under Napoleon III defeated the Austrians in its vicinity. It was just around then that French chemists had developed a bright purple artificial dye, so they named the new color after the victory. A whole slew of artificial dyes were developed in the mid to late 1800s. Before the artificial dye revolution, there actually weren't very many good dyes of any kind available. An amateur historian has told me that he traditional colors of national military uniforms — the British redcoats, the Prussian blue — were largely a function of what natural dyes were cheap and plentiful in each country. Then suddenly, instead of crushing snails or stewing plants, you could mix tar and oil and stuff in test tubes, and get big vats of intense colors that made all of previous human history look totally drab. Dyes are also used as lasing media, since the point of a dye is to interact strongly with light in a narrow frequency range. The main laser system used for laser cooling cold sodium vapor for BEC experiments is shining through a little stream of bright yellow dye. Which unfortunately happens to be quite carcinogenic, so the poor grad students that have to tend the laser to stabilize its frequency have to worry about touching the liquid, as well as about getting burnt by the beam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity Dyes are also used as lasing media, since the point of a dye is to interact strongly with light in a narrow frequency range. The main laser system used for laser cooling cold sodium vapor for BEC experiments is shining through a little stream of bright yellow dye. Which unfortunately happens to be quite carcinogenic, so the poor grad students that have to tend the laser to stabilize its frequency have to worry about touching the liquid, as well as about getting burnt by the beam. This reminds me of the old days when you tracked an infrared laser beam by placing computer punch cards in front of the laser and let it burn holes to determine its path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Blackberries make things very purple, very easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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