Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me3K-2faa...&playnext=1 If a member of these boards are making these, please don't stop. They're very fun to watch. - The Last Archon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 Good videos! I noticed he pronounced it "genie-forge", I always pronounce it "Gene-forge" (like the beginning of Genesis). I wonder which way is right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 The first part is probably "gene" as in a part of genetic material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I used to say geneforge as jen(like the girl's name)-forge, but then switched to gene(as in DNA)-forge. Now that I've seen the videos, or at least the first two: They're pretty amusing. Good advertising, but he (sorry if that's anyone here) isn't the greatest player. Not a noob, but not amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Feo Takahari Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I lasted six episodes, but the compulsion to replay the game became irresistible. I'm writing this in between clearing the Hills of Jars and my planned assault on the Pentil Plains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I'm not sure where all the pronunciation uncertainty comes from. Geneforge is a compound word. It is formed by the combination of two other words with entirely unambiguous pronunciation. Most compound words (not all, but most) have their pronunciations unaltered. Where do Jen and company come from? —Alorael, who would guess from playing style that the player isn't a regular here. Any true Spidwebber wouldn't be caught dead without a min-maxed super character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 When I first read a name for something, I usually just take a glance at it. I know that Geneforge should be pronounced GENE-FORGE, but I pronounce it as JENNA-FORGE. When I first read Solbreg, I pronounced it Salaberg. When I first read Pinner, I pronounced it Pintar. When I first read Alorael, I pronounce it ALO-RAWAL. Total coincidence, I swear. The Last Archon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I only watched the first video, but I fail to see the appeal. I'd rather just go play the game myself. Originally Posted By: Ackrovan When I first read Alorael, I pronounce it ALO-RAWAL. Total coincidence, I swear. Considering Alorael's mastery of conspiracies and backroom dealings, Dikiyoba wouldn't be all that surprised if it were true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I'm still disappointed that G5 didn't have a new sixth-tier creation called the Genefrog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba I only watched the first video, but I fail to see the appeal. I'd rather just go play the game myself. The idea is that somebody plays a game and documents it in screenshot or video form with amusing commentary. The problem is that nobody on YouTube is amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 ive always pronounced sucia "susia" not "sushia." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 is it Fyora with a "long I" sound or a "short I" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 ... it's not "fiora" at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Abhishek Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Is it a rhyme with flora? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Probably, but the vowel that's hard is the Y. If it's a vowel at all. —Alorael, who pronounces the adorable little critter as having a long I sound, like the I in pine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Feo Takahari Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Thuryl Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba I only watched the first video, but I fail to see the appeal. I'd rather just go play the game myself. The idea is that somebody plays a game and documents it in screenshot or video form with amusing commentary. The problem is that nobody on YouTube is amusing. I dunno. It's pretty funny to watch Deceased Crab's LP of Eversion as he starts to wonder why the scenery is getting darker. (This is the same Eversion I have in my signature.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody RCCCL Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Originally Posted By: Fin de siècle I'm not sure where all the pronunciation uncertainty comes from. Geneforge is a compound word. It is formed by the combination of two other words with entirely unambiguous pronunciation. Most compound words (not all, but most) have their pronunciations unaltered. Where do Jen and company come from? Tisk, Alorael, tisk Only one person can have a definitive say on how Geneforge should be pronounced, and since he hasn't said anything, I believe it's up to the individual to decide how it should sound. Personaly, gene(ie: dna) forge sounds kindy of tacky and silly to me, I like to think it's pronounced, Jenna or jenne forge, much like Ackrovan. Edit: I also like to say Fyora with a lone E, so it would be FEE OR A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 The English language as popularly spoken really has the definitive say on it. If Jeff wanted it to be pronounced atypically and specified an alternate pronounciation, that would be one thing. But without such specification, most people will inevitably pronounce it in a certain way. The rules Alorael cites is unconsciously followed by the vast majority of English-speakers, even if they don't realize it. (Actually, I suspect that rule holds across most languages. Not sure about that though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Also, "Jen"- or "Jenna"-Forge make absolutely no sense in context with the games, whereas "Gene" clearly does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan AnarhIztok2511 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Well, what I think is that since "the pool" changes (or forges) the genes ("those tiny little scrolls with four-letter sequences") and that it was the goal-object of the first game (which was supposed to be a stand-alone), the pronunciation is more than obvious. But, at the very conclusion we see, that if Tygen's faction won it'd the first part'd probably be pronunced as in "genesis". This just goes to show that we have to be grateful he didn't win. Imagine the argument then ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Desmarestia Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I jumped into the series at G4 and pronounced it jenna-forge because, as far as I could tell, the thing "generates" warriors. Later, I realized the game's fantasy aspect has actual scientific themes running through it, which was when gene-forge started making more sense. Had I known the name was supposed to mean something instead of just sounding vaguely awesome, I probably would have gone with the second pronunciation sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Toby-Linn Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 So is it "Gene-forge" like two syllables, or is it "genie-forge" which is 3 syllables? Gene-forge does make a kind of sense, but I still prefer "jenna-forge"....it just sounds better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 if your just seeing the game and dont know its about genes and science then you might pronounce it jennaforge.personally thats what i called it through most of G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Toby-Linn but I still prefer "jenna-forge"....it just sounds better. It sounds ridiculous. Dikiyoba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Does not. Just a matter of opinion and/or taste. Besides, who actually cares how it's said? As long as it is spelled right. The Last Archon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dikkiyoba It sounds ridiculous. This. Also, is nothing sacred anymore? You'll be flirting with everybody next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Nikki Also, is nothing sacred anymore? You'll be flirting with everybody next! No, I believe you can keep the gimmick all to yourself. *This message sponsored by Dikiyoba.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 it is a geneforge a forge for genes gene. forge. what is wrong with you people do you also pronounce "genetics" as "jenna-ticks" wait don't answer that i don't think i can stand to hear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 On the Internet no one can hear you scream, "You idiots, it's pronounced ...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 It's pronounced like "Guinea-Frog". It was invented by an Italian and a Frenchman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Desmarestia Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Thuryl it is a geneforge a forge for genes gene. forge. what is wrong with you people We don't have Magic Thuryl Future Vision. As multiple people have stated, it is not immediately obvious that genes are involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 lol try reading the rest of his post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 It's pronounced jeen-ticks, you fool! —Alorael, who vaguely recalls a biotech company selling something called a GeneForge at some point. That would make the game a likely trademark infringement and therefore unlikely, but if there was such a thing the studleycaps did make the pronunciation clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Desmarestia Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Almighty Doer of Stuff lol try reading the rest of his post I'm sorry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Thuryl do you also pronounce "genetics" as "jenna-ticks" This part. —Alorael, who will grant that the man has a point. He's wrong, but at least he's more plausibly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Desmarestia Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 If the question is whether the stress in ge-ne-forge belongs on the first syllable when ge-ne-tics is stressed on the second syllable, I'm going to have to stand by my original position. Words ending with the suffix etic always stress the et syllable. Since forge is not a suffix but the second half of a compound word, I see no reason for a trisyllabic form of geneforge to follow a similar rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 The question is whether Geneforge should be trisyllabic at all. "Gene forge" is not, obviously. Does removing a space add a syllable? Inquiring minds want to know, or at least they want to argue about it. —Alorael, who wonders if anyone will argue the other way. Forget disyllables. Is Ge-ne-for-ge quadrisyllabic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Dessmarestia is correct that the phonological rules applied on the addition of an affix for the most part do not apply to the creation of compound words. However, there is a problem with the previous argument. No, it is not immediately obvious that the word "gene" is used in the Geneforge world (although that is revealed late in the first game). However, the analogy to genes and to genetic engineering *is* immediately obvious. Here are the first two paragraphs on the SW Geneforge page. I've bolded the stuff that makes the connection to genes quite hard to avoid: Originally Posted By: Geneforge Home Page on SW Geneforge is our newest fantasy role-playing game with a science fiction twist. In Geneforge, you are free to choose what your overall goal is, and you can seek after it with your own horde of deadly, mutant monsters. You are a Shaper, a member of the most powerful and secretive of the magical guilds. You have the power to create life and mold it to serve your own needs. For millennia, your world feared and respected the Shapers above all others. Their creations could go everywhere, do anything, all according to the wishes of the Shapers and no others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Desmarestia Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 ...oh. That's what that means. I never bothered to connect the "science fiction twist" and "mutant monsters" aspects. Durr. DES: Hey Master Jared, whatcha doing? JARED: I am manipulating the biological framework of this animal in an attempt to create a variant with different characteristics. DES: *eyes glaze over* JARED: I'm making monsters. DES: Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Personally "jenna-forge" sounds better. i started calling it gene forge somewhere near the end of one because i now knew that shapers altered the genes of their creations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Slarty, please sticky this thread and require every new member to post their pronunciation of Geneforge in it so I know who to add to my ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Neossokrass Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Thuryl: Do you have to be such an ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Aaaaaaand we're done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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