Kyshakk Koan wxxqut Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Look at this! Its totally unfamilliar to me! There aren't any old towns and those towns aren't there in previous Avernums. Is A5 world totally different from previous Avernums? Are there any old towns like formello,silvar,almaria,castle,blosk,dharmon and rest? It would be a lot harder to find your way trought totally new caves and towns. I really hope that not everything is different.I would really miss tower of magi if its gone.I didn't expect new world. Thing I like is that you have to explore a section to be revealed on map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Nobody expects the New World™! The first rule of Avernum 5 Club is never talk about Avernum 5 Club. There is at least one true irony in your post, which we will be apparent when you play the game, and the first rule of Avernum 5 Club is dissolved. Bring your Bandaids™. -S- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Sullust Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Not all of these lands are unknown. The Northern Isles and below were present in Exile I and II. Harston is a town in Exile II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The ruins of Harston, no longer a town, are in Avernum 4. It is reasonable to suppose that New Harston is a new version of Harston. Just where it is, though, you'll have to wait to discover. As Jeff indicated months ago, A5 is set in Avernum, but in a previously unexplored set of caves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 You can't see it on the map, but there are several old places from the previous games. They just hate you because you are Empire and have a pointed way of expressing it. Jeff found that the easiest way to deal with the world is so small now, was to place you in areas where you have no expectations about how big they should be. It's still a small world after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Agreement with Randomizer! Distances don't seem funny when you aren't travelling between towns that used to seem like they were miles and miles apart. Map sections feel much larger now than they did in A4 even though they're obviously the same number of tiles. —Alorael, who thinks he'd be as sick of visiting old parts of Avernum as Jeff is of designing them. New terrain is a good thing, especially when some of it is as nifty as A5's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Xaiya Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I'm now addicted to A5 before I even play it. If I don't get it soon... Edit -...I will kill Alorael, hide his body, disguise myself as him, get an empty skribbane bottle, claim I need more from the moderator forum and that some glitch removed my modship, and look at all the threads in the moderator forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The Howling Depths section sounds cool. And so does the gremlin party . Dikiyoba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The gremlins really know how to throw a party. Too bad we're the entertainment. Jeff created some great new sections for Avernum. He finally explains the ecology of the eyebeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Student of Trinity:The ruins of Harston, no longer a town, are in Avernum 4. It is reasonable to suppose that New Harston is a new version of Harston. Just where it is, though, you'll have to wait to discover. As Jeff indicated months ago, A5 is set in Avernum, but in a previously unexplored set of caves. Oh I see. I thought it was the same Harston from A4. But the adjacent caves didn't seem to fit that picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ArchMage81 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 how many years after A4 does A5 takes part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd sthehill Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Actually, it takes place sometime between avernum 1-4, most likely by the sounds of it, between abernum 2 and 3. I am most interested in the anama lands, as this seems to mean that the anama have returned. Ought to be interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Xaiya Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Why would you assume it is between 2 and 3? That makes no logical sense. It has to be after A4. Jeff said something like "Erika and Rentar are gone". So why did you think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Nalyd likes the Shankers Tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Xaiya Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 How do you know, are you betatesting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd sthehill Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Until it's released, no one knows for sure. I am jsut going by the info on the main website, Taken from the main website: The villain fled somewhere into Avernum, an underworld nation of eccentrics, misfits, and barely civilized monsters, most of whom hate the Empire. And that is where you are going. You must find Dorikas, while dealing with spies, betrayal, and assassins at every turn. The enemy is waiting for you. You will only survive his attention with the help of these strange cave dwellers. If, of course, they don’t kill you first Now this woudl seem to indicate that the avernites haven't gotten to the surface world yet due to the attitude of hatred, which was a lot less severe in avernum 4. As for Rentar and Ihrno being gone, it could occur before Erika was sent down, or she oculd be missing for some random reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Quote: From the website: The surface world is ruled by the Empire. Its power is absolute. Its control is unchallenged. And, as a soldier of the Empire, you have a good, comfortable life ahead of you. But then a rebel named Dorikas tried to assassinate the Empress, and everything went wrong for you. The villain fled somewhere into Avernum, an underworld nation of eccentrics, misfits, and barely civilized monsters, most of whom hate the Empire. And that is where you are going. You must find Dorikas, while dealing with spies, betrayal, and assassins at every turn. The enemy is waiting for you. You will only survive his attention with the help of these strange cave dwellers. If, of course, they don’t kill you first Prazac is empress only after A2, and there was no assassination attempt by Dorikas mentioned in A3 or A4. In fact, in A4 Dorikas was still an unknown, and his introduction is one of the game's major plotlines. Quote: Originally written by sthehill Now this woudl seem to indicate that the avernites haven't gotten to the surface world yet due to the attitude of hatred, which was a lot less severe in avernum 4. As for Rentar and Ihrno being gone, it could occur before Erika was sent down, or she oculd be missing for some random reason... Erika was sent down long before A1, and Jeff's insistence that Rentar is dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead means that she is, in fact, dead as of A5. Avernum isn't quite as surface-phobic as it used to be, but the Empire's soldiers are most definitely not beloved. —Alorael, who will just go ahead and give a minor spoiler. A5 does, in fact, take place after A4. If that wasn't made explicit by Jeff in other posts, it wasn't for lack of trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 I thought that the fact that you are tracking down the "villain" (Dorikas I assumed because he got away in A4) made it clear that this was in chronological order with the other Avernum games. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Swimmin' Salmon Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 If you need to understand the Loathing in Avernites minds for the Empire soldiers, just remember that they were treated poorly by the Empire for many years. Some were born in Avernum and were spoon fed prejudices by their parents. Parents that had been cast into the Abyss by the cruel and unforgiving Emperor. Having been accepted back onto the surface in A3, most Avernites that wanted to relocate, have done so. Those that continue to live in the underworld do so because they either prefer it, see profit in it, or have deep-seated hatred for the surface world and its Empire. The fact that in A4 there was a surface dweller that messed around with the underworld was heinous enough, and was dealt with appropriately by the underworld. He was banished back to the surface. Well, now the Empire is trying to find this fellow, and is sending troops. You. Because the Avernites can't do a decent job and are basically incompetent. So yeah, it is no wonder that the folks that remain in Avernum would be inclined to distrust or outright hate any Empire official that dropped in for high tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish kkarski Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 So like... This is probably going to be an OT, but what the hell Is there someone on these boards connected somehow with JV who could unveil a bit more precise release date for A5 than "we should have it done by november"? I'm waiting for it, and with each passing day I get more and more nervous and anxious ;> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 There's no one with a particularly close connection to Jeff here. Beta testers have a better idea, but we're also not allowed to say anything. Sorry! —Alorael, who will blame invisble gremlins and chittery GIFTS for any and all delays that may or may not occur and that will or will not have retroactively occurred by two days ago as of next Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Jeff gave the beta testers a date, but then Leopard occured. If you've read the fuss over the graphics in A4 and GF4 using Leopard (the new Mac OS X), then you'll understand that there is no longer any certainty on when it will be done. We won't know until Jeff issues an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice ex post slarto Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Ahonaria... oh my god. Drakey must be peeing himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I just hope that the release date doesn't get pushed back like it means nothing. I do understand the need to work out the bugs, but I really hope that here is no wait like with the last Zelda game. That really killed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Jeff is very eager to get this game out the door. Rest assured that it will do so at the soonest possible moment, and that moment should not be very far off. Though I could mean on a geologic time scale. -S- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Guardian of Eternity Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Sorry to divert things from the topic of the (possibly) delayed release, but let me get this straight: In order to root out a villain who made an audacious attempt to strike fear into the heart of the Empire, they are sending troops to a distant (underground) land... And they expect to be greeted as heroes and allies, but are instead met with paranoia and outright hostility? I smell geopolitics (pun about an underground kingdom totally intended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish kkarski Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Now that really is... interesting ;> I haven't noticed that resemblance. I just hope that in the game Dorikas won't be hiding in a bunker, somewhere hidden in Avernum. And that the mission of the player won't be, among others, to find evidence of magic of mass destruction that Dorikas is said to have at his disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I hereby bend my NDA far enough to reveal: no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish kkarski Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Quote: Someone offered you good money to open this pot and see what it inside. Might not be smart. Oil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 So Dorkias is in a bunker then. How boring. Do we also get playing cards, so we don't forget who the evils are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan wxxqut Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 He is hiding in a bunker wile you hunt him down.Wasnt it almost same with hunting Rentar Ihrno in A4?Its getting little boring.But it doesent bother me that much(what if he went from town to town and from another place to another and you had to chase him) Dorikas is patetic, in A4 I defeted him and creatures he droped on torment level in two minutes.Hope he is tougher in A5 or it wont be fun cause he is main villan.Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Rentar-Ihrno was a rock on a pedestal. How was she supposed to go gallivanting across the subterranean countryside? —Alorael, who thinks evil masterminds have minions for a reason, and that reason is so that they can stay at home, drink tea, and loaf in their bathrobes. Evil is only a part-time job, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Evil masterminds stay safely hidden in their fortresses so they won't accidently die to lucky shots. Minions are replaceable cannon fodder that can be sent out to do the dirty work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan wxxqut Posted November 7, 2007 Author Share Posted November 7, 2007 But they cant have unlimited amount of minions.I mean its fun to fight them but overtime it becomes little boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish kkarski Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Any new details about delays/release date of Avernum 5 that beta testers are allowed to share with the public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Khoth Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 It's not so much the NDAs that keep us quiet as the fun of watching you not knowing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 This thread has moved to the A5 forum. —Alorael, who directs all further commentary there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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