Hatchling Cockatrice Slariton Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Litalia's backstory has been completely rewritten between G3 and G5. In G3 she says that, as a neophyte shaper, she was taken on a mission to kill serviles and shape new ones by her Watcher (a la Shanti in G2). She did so, felt guilty, tried to kill *him* (emphasis on the gender -- her watcher was not Shanti), failed, then fled and was found by Ghaldring in the woods. In G5 she implies she was a full shaper ("making the required hordes") before being sent to "a village called Drypeak" to deal with "a rogue shaper." The fact that she was sent to just the village suggests that the G2 PC actually died, because the other endings either involve Drypeak Village becoming irrelevant, or are noncanonical for more obvious reasons (eg, barrier of the winds). Anyway, in this new story she slaughtered all over Drypeak Valley until she met Ghaldring in the underground lair where he had been incubating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Litalia knows something about Shanti that you don't. But seriously, Jeff has always played fast and loose with backstory. Remember the second Shaper continent that he completely forgot about from about G4 onwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Litalia is the G3 PC! And Shanti was really a man! Or maybe a dragon. I hear dragons do that weird gender thing. —Alorael, who's got nothing. Perhaps Jeff doesn't keep quite good enough character notes, or occasionally loses them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Ohtar Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I kind of assumed she's insane. Or that there are multiple timelines and continuities in play. In G5 she's the alternate universe version of Litalia. And she's Bizarro Litalia in a G4 (which is why she smiles all the time). Pink Kryptonite may figure into this somewhere. Continuity issues aside, I liked her evolution from inhuman and almost monsterous in some ways in G3 to her attempts at regaining humanity in G4 and her new beliefs in G5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slariton Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 Good point -- her canister addiction and subsequent withdrawal may have messed with her memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Originally Posted By: If vlishes were wishes... Litalia is the G3 PC! Not quite, you meet her in G3, even before the end of the demo. I think that the canister amnesia makes the most sense, look at the G5 PC for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 It's symbolic, actually. You face yourself and have a serious conversation. —Alorael, who now wonders if Litalia is a dragon too, or possibly just a figment of the imagination of PCs from G3 through G5 from too much canister use. Who's to say she's the one with memory problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slariton Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 That reminds me. Did anybody else feel cheated by the hidden G5 ending where Ellhrah wakes up from a long, weird dream about the Shapers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Yeah, but I felt all the endings were cheats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Uberdhizon Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Really? The whole thing is a dream in one of the endings? What a spoiler. *Shakes his head sadly* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 The best ending involves finding the Xian Skull. Check out my teeth. They're shiny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 At least that one makes more sense than the ending where Erika wakes up and realizes that it was all a weird dream about Shapers. I particularly failed to enjoy the part where she is woken up by the sun coming through her window. —Alorael, who does, however, understand everything much better. Ellhrah kills Dumbledore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slariton Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 This topic deserves to fall victim to a bovine thud. He and She is not pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Do you think X is the one who somehow made all those enchanted anvils? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Uberdhizon Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Well that makes sense this the next step after perfecting the anvil spell is to use magic anvils for more damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Originally Posted By: Slartucker Litalia's backstory has been completely rewritten between G3 and G5. The backstory she gives in G4 matches the first part of the backstory she gives in G3. (She was an apprentice, she had a Watcher (gender not specified), she had to destroy a bunch of serviles and shape new ones, she ultimately failed the test, and that's all that's given.) Could it be possible for both stories to be semi-accurate? I seem to remember her Watcher took the attempt on his life pretty lightly. I also remember her not giving a whole lot of details about how she met Ghaldring. Maybe she actually passed the test, became a full Shaper, and met Ghaldring in Drypeak? Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slariton Posted December 2, 2008 Author Share Posted December 2, 2008 No, in G3 she says that Ghaldring found her in the woods when she ran away; she's very specific about that. She's also specific about the fact that she ran away immediately after her Watcher dismissed her attack on his life. Apparently Ghaldring sensed her fear and distress and came to find her. (Drakon empathy!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Possibly. Maybe she wished she hadn't passed the test and after getting all screwy with the canisters, her mind made her think she hadn't. After all the subconscious mind is extremely powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Well that makes sense this the next step after perfecting the anvil spell is to use magic anvils for more damage. Ah, the final clincher in proving that this was lies! haha i had hoped they would end with the beta testing, oh well, they're amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Lies? Sure you jest. X was always trying to improve his anvil tossing spell. Much to the dismay of Erika and Solberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Lyric Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 poor little fluffy kittens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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