Unflappable Drayk Death Knight Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Faq Question-Will there ever be an all new-avernum game with this new engine? Jeff-"We have not ruled it out, but it won't happen any time soon." Well after reading that, I cant help but get exited. If jeff does make an avernum 7 game with the new engine, I'd wager he knows owes some of us geneforge fans geneforge 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 If Jeff follows the established pattern, alternating between remade Avernums and new Avadons, you can expect Avernum 7 sometime between 2018 and 2023. There were 9 years between Exile 3 and Avernum 4, after all. He may not follow that pattern, but just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Death Knight Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 Oh, i know. Im just trying to be optimistic as i find jeff makes rpgs that i can appreciate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Enraged Slith Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 He's going to have to update the Geneforge series, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I think Jeff is more inclined to make an Avernum 0 rather than Avernum 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Ewww, prequel. Avernum 0: The First Expedition Spoiler: EVERYONE DIES If I had my way with Spiderweb's Longterm development... A:EotP, Avadon 2, A2:CS, A3:RW, Avadon 3, Avernum 4: A New Age In short, I'd want him to go through what we'd all expect, and then, not remake Avernum 4, rather, redo it completely. It's the lowest point in the series, and no one can debate he couldn't have done better. I would love to see that game remade with better everything, from presentation to plot and story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The FE would be hard to do in Jeff's style, at least without gaping retcons to A1's info on the First Expedition. However, an A0 could more reasonably be set during the early history of Avernum. Say, during the war against Grah-Hoth. I'm not sure I like that idea, but it would be doable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Jeff mentioned during Avernum 6 that he had an idea for a prequel. Avernum 6 was Jeff blowing everything up and enjoying it. All the really good NPCs are now gone so an Avernum 7 would be missing most of the fun dialog. Starting out when the Empire was exiling prisoners would fit with the old Avernum 1 themes. A bunch of poorly armed adventurers exploring the Pit and getting help from the few powerful wizards that got cast down too. Plenty of room for a new trilogy leading up to the imprisonment of Grah-Hoth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 And he would have plenty of juicy NPCs to work with for that. All five dragons, Grah-Hoth, Micah, Erika, Solberg, Rone, Patrick, and Aimee, and he could make good use of characters like Silverio, Mairwen, and Captain Johnson, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Necris Omega Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'unno, aside from imprisoning Grah-hoth, what else is there for adventurers from a founding era Avernum to really accomplish? That said, I'd still be happier with an Avernum 7: Here we Go Again, than I would any prequel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Originally Posted By: Enraged Slith He's going to have to update the Geneforge series, too. The Geneforge games still work on modern computers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Within the past couple years Jeff updated the earlier three Geneforge games, for compatibility purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Adventurers at founding era have alot beasts/monsters/etc to kill (and knowing Jeff also Gladwell or his ancestor having nasty jobs) and most likely help Solberg et co to make Avernum lifesustaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 If he ever does make an Avernum 0, I want the main game-winning quest to be to collect all the stone blocks in Avernum in order to build the Castle. I literally can't think of anything more fun that that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The Castle was built with magic, silly goose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Originally Posted By: Tyranicus Originally Posted By: Enraged Slith He's going to have to update the Geneforge series, too. The Geneforge games still work on modern computers. The first three games could use an engine update, though. They are incredibly clunky at this point. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Kyronea Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I have to admit I'm not entirely sure how he could do a prequel either. I mean obviously we can't play as the First Expedition, or else we'd be locked in by canon to do a number of things and then die. And as adventurers we can't find things like Demonslayer or the Orb of Thralni either, because those have to stay lost for the adventurers of Avernum 1 to find. It'd be difficult to do. Still, if anyone could pull it off, Jeff Vogel could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Originally Posted By: HOUSE of S The Castle was built with magic, silly goose. Not just magic. Here's a quote from E1: Originally Posted By: Thairl, in Fort Exile It's our pride and joy. We built a real castle, of rocks, crude magic, and spit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Mostly just magic. Exile I also says: "At the edge of it, to the south, is an amazing sight. It is a full-fledged castle, formed of gigantic slabs of stone." Gigantic slabs of stone are not something that anyone in Exile had the ability to move without magic. Particularly not given this line from Exile II: "The only reasonable approach to and from the Castle, now as always, is up a steep, narrow stretch of ground flanked on either side by sheer, imposing pits." That does not sound like a good place to haul gigantic slabs of stone with those slave teams that are always being inaccurately depicted as having assembled the Giza pyramid one inch at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Originally Posted By: HOUSE of S "The only reasonable approach to and from the Castle, now as always, is up a steep, narrow stretch of ground flanked on either side by sheer, imposing pits." That does not sound like a good place to haul gigantic slabs of stone with those slave teams that are always being inaccurately depicted as having assembled the Giza pyramid one inch at a time. in fairness, the pits could have been dug afterwards, although that only raises further questions also i love the second paragraph's unintentional implication that the pyramids were also built with magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I thought the sheer drops were to encourage sticking to the straight and narrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Skwish-E Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 The pits are where they got the stone slabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 it was a natural feature that was renovated into a castle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I thought the pit was part of the tile of E1 and referred to the caves as a whole. This makes me wonder what you would call a hole in a hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Aoslare Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Yes, "the pits of Exile" was a phrase used to describe the game location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Skwish-E Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Can you fill in half of a hole? If so, what do you have left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 since there's discussion about castle I gott say that some houses at Avadon are quite as big or bigger than King's castle at A6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 What do you expect, they don't live underground. Can you imagine all the lighting costs for a giant house with no natural lighting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 glowing fungus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I haven't seen much windows at Avadon's houses and some of those are also very dark. <------- has spent few mins trying to find quest-giver on dark house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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