Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Does anybody have experience with it? I'm thinking of replacing my mighty mouse because I'm tired of cleaning the scroll nipple every few months. I really like the idea behind the magic mouse. But I've read conflicting reviews. Any thoughts? magic mouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I've never used a magic mouse (mainly because I don't have a Mac). It sounds like a nice concept for a mouse, but like a lot of ideas, it doesn't seem to transfer very well from the drawing board to the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 hate hate hate hate hate hate but then again i'm an uncoordinated boob who had to turn off the tap-to-click function on my trackpad because i kept setting it off by accident so ymmv wireless peripherals are still lame though, and if you're irritated at having to clean a regular mouse once in a blue moon then you won't be thrilled about dealing with the batteries on a wireless mouse either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I have a wireless mighty mouse, and the roller back thingy does indeed get clogged every few weeks. It's not hard to clean, but a bit annoying. I'm thinking about magic, too. Wireless mice are fine, and the batteries last weeks. I bought a few rechargables and a charger, and have been using them for a few years now with no grief. The wireless mouse is a lot heavier than wired, because of the batteries. You get used to it, but lighter would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 For those of you unfamiliar with apples mighty mouse, it has a tiny scroll ball that gets jammed and the only way to clean it is take the damn thing apart, then glue the bottom back on. So not having to do that makes the magic mouse attractive to me. How are you cleaning yours SoT? Oh and BTW lithium ion batteries are by far the longest lasting batteries out there, quite expensive though. They're great for cold weather too, I've had 3 outside in remote thermometers, in ~-45C weather, 3 years and still going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt JadeWolf Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I still have a mighty mouse, and the scroller has been blocked since about a month after we bought it. I saw videos on youtube about how to take it apart, but don't trust any of them enough to break the seal with a kitchen knife like the last one told me to. Yea, SoT, How do you clean yours? ~-45C weather/quote] Whoa. Now I don't want to visit Canada any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: VCH -45 celsius Can I have that in American degrees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I probably wouldn't bother with a Magic Mouse, mainly because I've already replaced my Mighty Mouse with a Logitech mouse. But it does look quite nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dantius Originally Posted By: VCH -45 celsius Can I have that in American degrees? When it's that cold, does it really matter? (I'm guessing about -42.5ºF) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 On my computer (XP), I have a Logitech mouse, with two thumb buttons which navigate back and forward in the browser and a scroll/tilt wheel with middle click functionality. Sounded great, and it works mostly, except I had to disable the tilt wheel. Instead of doing what it was supposed to do (side-scrolling), all it did was make my typing go backwards, which was often triggered accidentally as it was very sensitive, and there was no way to make it do anything else, so I just disabled it. Also, the forward thumb button puts ♠ in any text-entry fields, and the back button places ♦. It's annoying. I even took it back to the store for a replacement, and the new one did the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Maybe this won't still work if your mighty mouse is severely clogged, but I just lick a finger and spin the rollerball around a few times, at the first sign of scrolling trouble. If I'm feeling fussy or if the stickiness persists I'll take one of those little screenwiper towellettes and use it instead of the finger. I've never had to take the thing apart, and I've had no trouble apart from these periodic minor cleaning sessions over a few years of constant use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt JadeWolf Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Ah well, I tried that, and it doesn't work anymore. Sticking a nedle or a thin bit of paper in works as well, as long as you don't stick it in too far. Perhaps soon I will take the leap of faith and break it to try and fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I find the sometimes I have had to turn my Mighty Moose upside down and run the roller across a sheet of paper to get it clean. I do that for about 5 minutes, making sure I don't press to down to hard so as to jam the roller inside the mouse. You can see the bits of grime come out and get left on the paper. I will get a Magic Mouse when the one i have stops working, Might be a long time, I've had this one for 3 years now and still going strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 When I buy a mouse for my computer, I prefer it to be wired, optical, have a scrolling wheel, and have one or two programmable buttons on one side. It must also be on sale; about $20-25 is my limit. Originally Posted By: Rowen Mighty Moose That's one peripheral I've never seen used much. Originally Posted By: Anyone Else with Them Originally Posted By: Dantius Originally Posted By: VCH -45 celsius Can I have that in American degrees? When it's that cold, does it really matter? (I'm guessing about -42.5ºF) That seems more or less about it; I don't know the exact conversion formula anymore. However, I do remember that -40ºC and -40ºF are identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: The Almighty Doer of Stuff On my computer (XP), I have a Logitech mouse, with two thumb buttons which navigate back and forward in the browser and a scroll/tilt wheel with middle click functionality. Sounded great, and it works mostly, except I had to disable the tilt wheel. Instead of doing what it was supposed to do (side-scrolling), all it did was make my typing go backwards, which was often triggered accidentally as it was very sensitive, and there was no way to make it do anything else, so I just disabled it. Also, the forward thumb button puts ♠ in any text-entry fields, and the back button places ♦. It's annoying. My Logitech mouse lacks the thumb buttons. It's just a regular two-button mouse with a clickable scroll wheel that can also be pushed sideways. The side-scrolling works fine, though it's slower than vertical scrolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I still have one of those single button mice on my Mac. How are you supposed to use thumb buttons? My Windows computer has a mouse with a thumb button but it doesn't do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: Rowen I find the sometimes I have had to turn my Mighty Moose upside down and run the roller across a sheet of paper to get it clean. I do that for about 5 minutes, making sure I don't press to down to hard so as to jam the roller inside the mouse. You can see the bits of grime come out and get left on the paper. That's my cleaning method. It's kept the mouse in good working order for several years now. —Alorael, who previously used an Apple wireless mouse from back when the mice only had one button. He had to change batteries several times a week. It was far more annoying than having to clean a scroll ball once in a while, especially since the mouse works fine even without the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt JadeWolf Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 -45 C is -49 F. Might Moose - made me laugh a lot. A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Originally Posted By: Quantum Gastronomy —Alorael, who previously used an Apple wireless mouse from back when the mice only had one button. He had to change batteries several times a week. Wireless mice have come a long way since then. I have a Logitech MX620 wireless mouse that I got 1.5 years ago. In that time, I have needed to replace the batteries once, about a year after I purchased it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 I think it depends on where you use the mighty mouse. I use mine on a dusty desk that I rarely clean. Taking it apart is not a problem. The only tricky part is making sure you don't loose all the tiny rollers that interact with the scroll ball. The rollers are actually the thing that gets gummed with dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Rowen Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 As for batteries, I use Energizer Ultimate Lithium +AA. I turn off the mouse when I am not using the computer. I replace that batteries maybe once every 5 or 6 months. The technology in batteries have come very far in my life time. If I was using the same kind of batteries I used in my gameboy (the original) they would last about 1 maybe 2 days as most. These advances are very subtle to see at the moment but compared to many or a few years back they are quite significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I am using some kind of Logitech wireless mouse with my mac right now, and it is working fine. I think that I have had it for around half a year now, and it is working perfectly. I like mine because I can recharge it and don't have to keep on changing its batteries. It can hold its charge for weeks, and then I just charge it overnight and in the morning it is good for another few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think the magic mouse is cool, and my dad tried one out at the Mac store and said it was good. Of course, it will probably break once you get home, but that's my daily pessimism. My family has a 6 or so year old G5 iMac, and we still have the single-click wired mouse. It works well, and we won't be replacing it. I would think wireless mice are nice, but I don't want to have battery trouble. And has Apple really done nothing about dirty mighty mice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast VCH Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share Posted October 31, 2009 Apple has an article on how to clean the mighty mouse. If I remember correctly it contains a suggestion to turn the mouse downside up and roll the ball over a wet cloth. It works for a while, but ultimately it doesn't help much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 How long is a while? My mouse still cleans up just fine with a couple of seconds and any scrap of paper that's handy, and while it entered my possession used, it's one of the first mighty mice to hit the market. —Alorael, who has to admit that he's not especially eager to switch back to a mouse with batteries. He's also not too keen on the new Mac keyboard either. Why did the function keys have to shrink? Why did the volume controls move left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I actually like the new keyboard, and would consider switching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Originally Posted By: Excalibur I still have one of those single button mice on my Mac. They still make single-button mice? I haven't seen one of those since I was in high school. Originally Posted By: Excalibur How are you supposed to use thumb buttons? My Windows computer has a mouse with a thumb button but it doesn't do anything. You have to install a special driver program; either it comes with the mouse on a CD, or you can download it from the manufacturer's website. Once it's installed, you can use it to program the thumb buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I have a mouse with one button. I forever insist to my parents to get a new one. I could get one myself but I'm to cheap. They're fun to use as you forever forget (At least I do) that there is no second button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 My Uncle says that he just rubs his mighty mouse against his shirt once a week. My dad's logitech mouse gets new batteries every few months. I was in the Mac Store at the Mall today and played with the new magic mouse. The forward and backward feature takes a bit of getting used to, and it's not really all that special, but it works well enough. The one there was wireless, and it was actually a comfortable weight. The mouse itself is really very slim. I'm not about to go buy one, but it definitely looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Nalyd has an optical mouse for his laptop. He uses it for FPSes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Originally Posted By: Hypnotic I have a mouse with one button. I forever insist to my parents to get a new one. I could get one myself but I'm to cheap. Just get one anyway; a good mouse can cost as little as $10-15, so you definitely won't break the bank. Originally Posted By: ☭ Nalyd has an optical mouse for his laptop. He uses it for FPSes. I have one for my laptop also; it's wired, not wireless, because I'm too cheap to buy batteries for a wireless mouse. I use it for almost everything so I don't wear out the touchpad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Why is it that the PDN can handle the ☭ symbol, but the quotes can't? EDIT: And, for that matter, the posts. EDIT2: But the edit line at the bottom can. Aaargh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I'd take a guess by saying that the edit box/PDN stores as utf-8, while the post stores the html entity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I actually don't see the symbol in Nalyd's PDN, unless it was supposed to be a box with "262D" inside of it. Originally Posted By: The Mystic Originally Posted By: Excalibur I still have one of those single button mice on my Mac. They still make single-button mice? I haven't seen one of those since I was in high school. Not that I know of. It's just that the computer is old and the mouse is too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 The problem appears to be that UBB gets overexcited and, having already turned the unicode value into an HTML entity, it then escapes the ampersand at the start of the HTML entity itself as an HTML entity, leaving the orphaned remainder to be interpreted as text. ⌥⌘⎋⇧⨯ EDIT: And to make matters even better, it doesn't screw this up when displaying previews of entries which contain non-ascii unicode, but does once the data is stored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast keira Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 You get what you pay for, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Of course, some people can make it work right: "⌥⌘⎋⇧⨯" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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