G5 editor[G5]

[SgtOtaku]

for anyone wanting a character editor for G5, i am working on one. I am also modding the items to, in my opinion, improve upon the game and to add functionality. If you want the editor and the modded items, just leave me a post. once it's up and running and fully tested, i will post it on my site, and provide a link to it.

 

EDIT:

Please note that the modded item list provided below is NOT fully functional, and that i will be providing a new one in my final Editor release.

[SgtOtaku]

Also, if you have any tips for making the editor, or have experience scripting the game, please give me some tips.

[Trakovite Mitchell]

Yeah don't over do your editor. Make it faced on one thing, or make the editing parts choosable (Like if I wanted JUST magic modified).

[SgtOtaku]

thanks! i was thinking of having the different types of editing (skill, magic, shaping, etc) be in different areas. i hope this is a good idea...

[RCCCL]

If you're confident in you're scripting abilities, you could make it all accessible from one point.

[A less presumptuous name.]

I would recommend going to the geneforge series forum. They have a link to Criokles (sp) editor, which has been modded to work for pretty much every game. It's always been my favorite layout.

 

The biggest thing to remember is the line limits per script, so you may have to break it up into a few different zones.

 

[Edit] Also, that makes it easier for people to pick and choose what parts of the editor they want.

[SgtOtaku]

@RCCCL: this is actually my first time doing any scripting, so I am actually not very confidant in my abilities. i actually test each new change to make sure it works.

 

@master1: that's the editor i am using as a reference for my G5 editor. I am working on splitting it up because of the line limit.

[SgtOtaku]

so does anyone know if an editor will work on vista? i recently switched from XP to vista and i tried to mod my file, but vista refused to let me. does anyone know how to fix this issue?

[tylerSa]

Well done, i have an editor just like that but it makes you all powerfull like a god or something, although I need to remodify the script to fix some of the irritating bugs in it.

 

I will have more information very soon and possibly the editor.

 

This post is meant for the one who created this editor.

[Le Imp]

Originally Posted By: SgtOtaku

so does anyone know if an editor will work on vista? i recently switched from XP to vista and i tried to mod my file, but vista refused to let me. does anyone know how to fix this issue?

I assume because you haven't given yourself the rights to edit the files in the G5 install folder.

[Spddin Ignis]

are you the admin. of the computer

[SgtOtaku]

well, i finally figured out that it was the UAC that prevented modifications to the program files (either that or one of my anti-viruses)

 

I am now working on a new editor, allowing for the creation of a god-like shaper, or to pick and choose which stats to increase. It is taking me time, and i have some interesting scripting i have to do. But i have to thank Loyalist Shaper Ganduv for his editor, without which i would not have figured out how to easily modifiy certain stats.

 

One key feature of my new editor is what i call a "dependancy-style" editor, where a user can augment ALL required stats for say, ur-drakon creation, i.e. intelligence (those things are essence hogs!), drakon creation ability, fire shaping, etc... this makes having the ability to shape only the creations you want very easy. There will also be class-based stat editors, i.e. guardian stat boosters, and at various levels.

 

the only real downside to my editor is the fact that, due to the massive amount of stuff able to be done, it will have to be spread around in multiple areas.

 

As an interesting sidenote, i will also be including easter eggs in this editor, where an obilisk, sign, or NPC will grant you access to special grants, such as an artifact grant or others. these easter eggs will NOT be listed in any sort of access point guide, and users will have to find them.

 

as a final note, the editor will be offered in a zip file for easy download, as many of the files will have slight scripting tweaks. Some of the files will be dummy files, included to throw you off the easter eggs. these dummy files are simply the original, un-edited versions of the respective dialogue files.

 

DISCLAIMER:

 

ALL credit towards the new method of scripting goes to Ganduv. His G5 Editor is what i am basing these new scripts on, and is the basis for my editor.

[Ganduv]

No prob Sgt, I'm almost done with mine, since I'm trying to make it pretty basic, but I'l certainly troubleshoot yours, it might even become like Criokles editor if your lucky.

EDIT: It would be nice to make an Ur-Drakon that didn't cost any essence

[SgtOtaku]

Originally Posted By: Loyalist Shaper Ganduv

No prob Sgt, I'm almost done with mine, since I'm trying to make it pretty basic, but I'l certainly troubleshoot yours, it might even become like Criokles editor if your lucky.
EDIT: It would be nice to make an Ur-Drakon that didn't cost any essence

not quite sure how to do that, but i can make it so that you have the ability right away to create an ur-drakon. sadly, a maxed out ur-drakon uses about 750 essense...

and im hoping to have the editor done in the next few days.

[Ganduv]

Yeah I've been screwing around with the scripts looking for that I found that you can make spells use 0 essence from the gf5objsmisc but I'l keep messing with it oh and if you want to make it to where canisters never get destroyed go to the been_used = 1 and change it to 0 and just delete the line kill_object(ME,0); and that should do it.

[Øther]

Mostly what I do to counter the essence cost is make my character start with around 30000 essence, so it is never a problem.

[Acky]

DW: Best avatar in a long time.

 

The Great Archon

[SgtOtaku]

well, it'll get figured out by someone.

 

the only thing i think people may not like is my "easter egg" idea. I think it would be interesting, but that's just me.

 

and once i figure out where to put the parts, and what signs/obilisks/NPCs/controls to put them in, i will start working on the actual construction and then upload it.

 

and BTW, does anyone happen to know the max. lines per script? or is it just 290 talk nodes?

[Ganduv]

Not sure about the max lines per script, what I did was use all the lines between 178-290 and it's worked out good so far, I'm thinking of adding something to where it will open a shop if you click on a certain thing (for example the Guardian Kulish shaping training etc.) but I'm not sure yet, at any rate it's coming along pretty well. And the easter egg sounds like a good idea, only make it to where the gear they get has super stats or something like that would be cool.

EDIT: Custom charms would be great, definetly.

Also wasn't there a thread or something leading to a download that decreased the lines in gf5itemschars?

[SgtOtaku]

the g5itemschars.txt isn't the main issue.

 

and the easter eggs will be for super stat boosts and custom items. once i get back from the library, i will get straight to work on the editor.

 

 

also, i will need a few people that have a save game from the end game area to test the full version in the dera reach and endgame areas, as i dont have a save game at that point. if you are interested, PM me.

[Ganduv]

Yeah, but if your gonna make custom items you might wanna get something to reduce the lines in it, because you can only add like 3 or 4 custom items in its original form, also you should make a super baton/wand that never runs out of ammo, recently I've been trying to make one but I don't want to make all the other batons have infinite ammo, same with wands.

[Øther]

Making a single baton or wand with unlimited ammo is easy. Just put in an

 

it_charges = 0;

line and you have it.

 

To make it super powerful, you can give it any ability you want, and go into the

gf5objsmisc.txt

file and make the ability more powerful.

[Ganduv]

Ah, I didn't know that Doom I thought if you did that it would make it have 0 shots, thanks for the info.

[SgtOtaku]

another thing im trying to do is add stackability to items like the runed onyx and the ivory skull. i have yet to figure that out.

 

Also, Please be aware, the editor is done for Zone 0! ^^ it took me forever to design it and then test it, and one part i had in there was invalidating the script, so..... yea. i am working on the minallah dialogue, but it's slow going, because i plan out what goes where, so i can keep track of where to find it for testing purposes. i have 5 signs to work with, but it was going to all be low-level item grants...

 

im making my editor kinda go with the game, so the easter eggs are where you can make your character an uber-shaper, while the main part of the editor trys to not be a true cheat. Item grants will be scattered throughout the entire landscape, while stat mods will be a little more rare. it is still possible to use the standard stat mods to boost the stats to the max, but not every stat will be modded early in the game.

 

i was tired of finding that editors are in the very first area, and boosted you all the way. it makes the game boring and kinda tedious. that's why i am making the editor flow with the game. it simply makes the game more enjoyable, without the full boost.

[Ganduv]

Umm I think Microphage made something explaining item stackability, just compare items that don't stack to items that do and it should become apparent (note that I am not quite sure how to do it myself) but that's what I did when I didn't understand something.

EDIT: I also get why you want to make yours like it is, when I made my editor or tried another I didn't use it in the beggining because it seemed to spoil the accomplishment (when say you get access to new shaping spells from Alwan's storyline) and such so sounds good, just wish they'd make a Blades of Geneforge

[Ganduv]

Oh also (not meaning to spam) here are some cool custom items I've come up with they work with my trimmed gf5itemschars so they may work for yours

Click to reveal..

//godmode sword

begindefineitem 85;

import = 68;

it_name = "Blade of Unbounding";

it_graphic_coloradj = 1024;

it_level = 300;

it_value = 5000;

it_stats_to_affect 0 = 22;//luck +50

it_stats_addition 0 = 50;

it_stats_to_affect 1 = 4;//melee +20

it_stats_addition 1 = 20;

it_stats_to_affect 2 = 6;//quick action +20

it_stats_addition 2 = 20;

it_stats_to_affect 3 = 7;//parry +20

it_stats_addition 3 = 20;

 

//godmode item

begindefineitem 180;

import = 0;

it_name = "Shaper Stone";

it_graphic_coloradj = 64;

it_protection = 25;

it_graphic_template = 51;

it_graphic_sheet = 9;

it_which_icon_ground = 9;

it_which_icon_inven = 8;

it_variety = 11;

it_abil_work_in_pack = 1;

it_stats_to_affect 0 = 2;//intelligence 50+

it_stats_addition 0 = 50;

it_stats_to_affect 1 = 9;//battle 30+

it_stats_addition 1 = 30;

it_stats_to_affect 2 = 10;//mental 30+

it_stats_addition 2 = 30;

it_stats_to_affect 3 = 11;//blessing 30+

it_stats_addition 3 = 30;

it_value = 200;

 

//godmode item

begindefineitem 189;

import = 0;

it_name = "Agent Charm";

it_graphic_coloradj = 128;

it_protection = 25;

it_graphic_template = 51;

it_graphic_sheet = 9;

it_which_icon_ground = 9;

it_which_icon_inven = 8;

it_variety = 11;

it_abil_work_in_pack = 1;

it_stats_to_affect 0 = 20;//leadership 20+

it_stats_addition 0 = 20;

it_stats_to_affect 1 = 21;//mechanics 20+

it_stats_addition 1 = 20;

it_stats_to_affect 2 = 1;//dexterity 50+

it_stats_addition 2 = 50;

it_stats_to_affect 3 = 215;//stealth 30+

it_stats_addition 3 = 30;

it_value = 0;

 

//godmode item

begindefineitem 86;

import = 0;

it_name = "Guardian Charm";

it_graphic_coloradj = 128;

it_protection = 25;

it_graphic_template = 51;

it_graphic_sheet = 9;

it_which_icon_ground = 9;

it_which_icon_inven = 8;

it_variety = 11;

it_abil_work_in_pack = 1;

it_stats_to_affect 0 = 201;//attack points 20+

it_stats_addition 0 = 20;

it_stats_to_affect 1 = 18;//healing craft 30+

it_stats_addition 1 = 30;

it_stats_to_affect 2 = 0;//strength 50+

it_stats_addition 2 = 50;

it_stats_to_affect 3 = 3;//endurance 50+

it_stats_addition 3 = 50;

it_value = 0;

 

//godmode item

begindefineitem 486;

import = 0;

it_name = "Shaping Charm";

it_graphic_coloradj = 64;

it_protection = 25;

it_graphic_template = 51;

it_graphic_sheet = 9;

it_which_icon_ground = 9;

it_which_icon_inven = 8;

it_variety = 11;

it_abil_work_in_pack = 1;

it_stats_to_affect 0 = 15;//fire shaping 30+

it_stats_addition 0 = 30;

it_stats_to_affect 1 = 16;//battle shaping 30+

it_stats_addition 1 = 30;

it_stats_to_affect 2 = 17;//magic shaping 30+

it_stats_addition 2 = 30;

it_stats_to_affect 3 = 12;//spellcraft 30+

it_stats_addition 3 = 30;

it_value = 0;

EDIT: Credit goes to Microphage for the Blade and the charms, the last one was of my own design pretty much.

[Acky]

Shaping Charm = Awesome

 

The Archon is pleased

 

The Great Archon

[Ganduv]

Yeah I wanted to fit in intelligence or the healing craft at the end but I figured the guardian charm needed it more.

I also wish they made a way to were you could create more than 6 creations, having a bunch of battle alphas guarding Gorash-Kel would be sweet

[SgtOtaku]

ive created 7 creations. 1 cryodrayk, 2 eyebeasts, 3 ur-drakons, and 1 kyshakk

you just have to make sure that noone else is in your party (and for that party, make sure that you have pyro's trainer.

[Acky]

Hey; is it possible for you to make an edit that gives me 5 in each spell/creation? Dialog, quest reward etc I don't care.

 

The Great Archon

[SgtOtaku]

Originally Posted By: Master Ackrovan

Hey; is it possible for you to make an edit that gives me 5 in each spell/creation? Dialog, quest reward etc I don't care.

The Great Archon

easily. it will be included in my editor. ganduv does one better and lets you get 30 in everything. my editor is based off his and is much more fine tuned.

[SgtOtaku]

and as another reminder, i am looking for 2 more people for "beta testers" of sorts. i need people that are willing to try out my editor peice by piece, and to make suggestions, tell me if something isn't working, etc. I try to test my editor as i create it, but sometimes, i miss things, and i would like to have fresh eyes catch those missing elements BEFORE the general public gets access to the editor.

 

one HUGE benefit to being a beta tester is knowledge of the locations of the easter eggs.

 

so if you want to help me out and beta test my stuff, send me a PM and when i get it, i will get you the information.

[Acky]

I don't mind being a beta tester. It'll just have to wait a few days.

[SgtOtaku]

Originally Posted By: Master Ackrovan

I don't mind being a beta tester. It'll just have to wait a few days.

ok. i'll send you a PM with the link to the first part of the editor, and the info on the easter egg contained in that segment of the editor.

and now that you are willing, i have filled all the spots for the closed beta. and yes, i prefer releaseing fully tested stuff, because i stand behind my scripting.

[Ganduv]

Yeah, I'm thinking about having a magic and shaping subsection so that they can choose which stat they want increased, I'm not gonna do +1,+3,+5 because it would take up too many lines is what I'm thinking, it's really hard going back and editing old things in the editor since I want it to be neat but it's hard because of the talknodes and it gets confusing >_<

[SgtOtaku]

Originally Posted By: Loyalist Shaper Ganduv

Yeah, I'm thinking about having a magic and shaping subsection so that they can choose which stat they want increased, I'm not gonna do +1,+3,+5 because it would take up too many lines is what I'm thinking, it's really hard going back and editing old things in the editor since I want it to be neat but it's hard because of the talknodes and it gets confusing >_<

and that's why it is taking me forever to get mine beyond the first section right now. and i only have mine at the various levels because i want people to be able to choose how badly they cheat.

[Øther]

The search function really helps when going back through the scripts.

[Shrapy]

Sweet. How do I put those items in my game though?

[SgtOtaku]

Originally Posted By: Shrapy

Sweet. How do I put those items in my game though?

simple really. you just copy my dialogue files and paste over the original. (after createing a backup of the original scripts file) and if you want the god mode items, all you have to do is add them into the g5itemschars.txt file. then add a grant into one of the scripts that refers to that item.

[SgtOtaku]

the editor is well on it's way. it's taking longer than i thought simply due to the way my editor works. my editor is designed to be a fine-tune meathod of modification, with some easter eggs for the super stat boosts. it is also designed for flow with the game, so as to allow people to breeze through the early segments, without being completely over powerful. The final thing that is making this editor take a while is the fact that i beta my mods before general release, that way, i know they work.

[SgtOtaku]

I have decided that this editor will be offered in 2 versions: Rebel Version, for those that want a total cheat. It functions much like the canisters, in that it boosts stats you otherwise would not get. and then Shaper Version, for those who want to learn the way shapers do: gradually and in sync with the game.

[Ganduv]

Very nice Sgt, sounds like it's coming along great. I'd be happy to beta test it out once your pretty much done, I guess one day I'l get around to putting class gear on my editor

[SgtOtaku]

i keep waiting to see what you come up with!

[SgtOtaku]

the beta of a Loyalist Edition is coming along quite well. i have almost up to the repository sripted in my journal. all that's left is to input it in the comp and then test and upload it. i am including something NEVER seen in an editor before. AP boosts. these will be implimented with the intention of Warriors and Spellcasters. I will also be attempting to create a dramatic boost for essence and Spell Energy. if anyone knows how to script HP/Essence?spell energy boosts, please let me know!

[SgtOtaku]

well, i was going to add the AP boost, but it's giving me trouble right now, so i have to tinker with it before i can say that it WILL be included. but i am hoping it will be! ^^

[Ganduv]

Can't wait til it comes out Sgt, I've been occupied learning how to mod a more complicated script (from a game called Fate) soon as I'm done I'l be ready to beta test like I've never beta tested before

[Krysis]

Raises hand I'm willing to Beta test. Will you mind if i'm critical on spelling?