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Originally Posted By: Euphoria Experimenting I just made a very easy money hack that just about anyone can do. This apparently is only needed if you are too lazy to type in the shift+D cheat of course. So...first thing you do is locate the z25Tharstondlg.txt file in the scripts folder. Open it with wordpad, and from the edit menu do a find search on gypsy. Goto the 3rd talk node...that is begintalknode 242. This is the one where in game you give her 5 coins. The script has code = change_coins (-5) Just change the -5 to 30000 and every time you give the gypsy $$ you get 30k gold. Takes about 30 seconds to do, and seems to work flawlessly. this takes more work and therefore does not fall into the category of "do b if you're too lazy to do a"

that's not the definition of "life according to their image."

i think i said it in this thread, but if dorikas becomes emperor, it'll just be avernum 1 all over again.

i disagree.

off topic: i never really understood why dungeons of the unforgiven had that rainbow garbage can monster. thanks for reminding me of the game, though. maybe i'll get around to downloading it sometime.

the problem with your logic is that there's a lufia ii.

Originally Posted By: Thuryl So you're saying that "Rentar's back and she wants revenge" is no more specific a plot point than "This game has a plot"? Do you really believe that? Really? It's okay to like A4, but this is not a sensible way to defend it. no, that's not even close to what i was saying. the point that i was making is that it's the details that make a game worth playing. revenge is part of the plot for every game in the avernum series (and many other series, for that matter), whether you yourself want revenge or you have to stop someone else from getting it. as for liking avernum 4, it was just okay to me. i still see why it was a necessary sequel, though. Originally Posted By: Thuryl The other thing you have to consider is that there were about 214 BoE scenarios about Rentar being back and wanting revenge. It was literally the biggest cliche possible within the Exile/Avernum universe and everybody got tired of it very quickly. that doesn't matter. there still needed to be some kind of official revenge because she promised it. Originally Posted By: Thuryl Why couldn't Dorikas have been the main villain of A4 and Rentar the sidequest instead of the other way around? Considering the DLs' attitude to nonhumans, Dorikas could even have killed Rentar himself. that wouldn't make very much sense logically.

pretty much anything can be seen as evil (or at least unethical), depending on your reasoning. just do stuff for the wrong reason.

i was actually talking about the first play through. also, just because something can be done doesn't mean it's worth doing. i just never really saw the point in waiting to buy something when you can just train in it, especially when you can get huge amounts of extra skill points with all of the knowledge brews and cystals. that's just me, though.

Originally Posted By: Earth2025 lol@alorael on storyline a4 was a3 with new graphics just bit changes on a3's story. 1st trilogy wasn't that obvious sequels to prev game (yeah a1 wasn't sequel) like 2nd trilogy is where story continues almost same point where previous game ended (we don't know yet what a6 holds in). all of the sequels are pretty obvious to me... avernum 1: some avernites kill the emperor avernum 2: the empire wants revenge by any means necessary and even kidnaps some crystal souls avernum 3: rentar-ihrno wants revenge on the empire for what they did and some avernites help end the monster plagues in exchange for peace with the empire. rentar-ihrno vows revenge (which is why even though there was some plot deja vu in the next game, it was necessary) avernum 4: rentar-ihrno comes through on her promise, but is defeated again. there is also a conspiracy led by a former empire soldier to destroy avernum and bring back the old empire. avernum 5: because the empress isn't like her dad, dorikas, aka the conspiracy leader, assassinates her. some empire soldiers kill him. avernum 6: most likely, the remnants of the darkside loyalists will want revenge and some avernites have to kill them.

Originally Posted By: When you leap into the abyss... Click to reveal.. A3 has a mysterious enemy creating plagues of monsters attacking the Empire. It turns out to be the work of Rentar-Ihrno, who seeks revenge for the events of the previous game. A4 has a mysterious enemy creating psychic plague-inducing shades attacking Avernum. It turns out to be the work of Rentar-Ihrno, who seeks revenge for the events of the previous game. —Alorael, who can only conclude that you are concerned with the details, which are indeed quite different, and losing sight of the big picture, which is practically identical. The Avernum Series: You take several steps whilst trying to accomplish some goal(s). Pretty much any other game that has ever existed: You take several steps whilst trying to accomplish some goal(s). Real life: You take several steps whilst trying to accomplish some goal(s).

you can store things wherever you wanted in all of the avernum games, except for maybe outside, but that's logically a bad place to store important items anyway. i always used bows and arrows just because they were handy. i never really maxed out my characters' packs anyway, and it always helped to have some good ranged weapons for a character who didn't have magic or anymore mp.

the caves aren't really fit for cows anyway, which is why cave cows are always described as sickly

the only problem is when you can train those skills long before you can buy them. then your characters are weaker in the beginning, when you actually need those skills.

kind of like rentar vs garzahd

they're calling it "climate change" now because in about 5 more years, they'll be talking about how we're entering the next ice age.

ah, so basically nothing that i've played. edit: actually, i think i played dungeon master for about 2 minutes once but thought it was gay.

Originally Posted By: Killua Zordik I see. Do you also get experience if you just damage a foe? i can't think of any games taht are like this (except for hitting wakka's blitzball in kingdom hearts, but that's just an isolated example, since it's not how the whole game runs).

Originally Posted By: Carranzero attach some iron chains to everyone's leg, and they'll move slower i hate the iron balls in nethack even more than the food poisoning and cursed items.

ah.

hmmm, some replies aren't showing up or were deleted.

you can always just move with the arrow keys...

if i remember correctly, you find the hot spring during the course of the actual game anyway.

i always knew there was something going on between lark and cordelia

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