Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Anton Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Quote: The highly-anticipated fourth game in the Geneforge series is coming by the end of the year! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ummmmmmmmm,i think the story line in G1 is bad, G2's OK and G3's pretty good. i wonder how G4 will go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk the Great Potato Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Are you kidding? Geneforge 1 had the best out of the bunch by far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I don't know about 'by far'. I think G2 and G3 work well as logical developments. But G1 was definitely a bit better. Everything kind of worked, and the only loose end that was there for me was that there was no indication of just how the PC was growing in power so quickly. That got taken for granted as part of CRPG convention, when in fact the Geneforge-y theme of the game offered a great opportunity to make it an important working part of the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I know a few people that loved G1, but refused to buy 2 (and I guess 3) because they felt nothing was substantually new (including plot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I think G1 has the best plot out of the first three Geneforges. It felt a little more believable than the others, and the ancient civilization subplot was interesting. And the plot gets a boost just for being the first of the series and therefore more original. Hopefully, G4's plot will also get that originality boost because it is the first in the series to have the perspective be from the rebel's side. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Conqueror of Geneforge Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba:I think G1 has the best plot out of the first three Geneforges. Same here, I played through G1 dozens of times before getting a little bored, and I've played only 1 or two times through the other twos. Ok, G3 wasn't really bad either, but I didn't like really much G2. Also, one thing who made my vote go to G1, well, it is in that one and only one where [spoilers... I guess] . . . . . [you've been warned!] . . there are the Sholai (they're so cool!) and you can actually use the Geneforge. [edit: added a (they're so cool!) note] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Conqueror of Geneforge:and you can actually use the Geneforge. Hold onto that thought! —Alorael, who would not dream of spoiling anything. Just be aware that gloves are not provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 If you are implying that in GF4 you can use the Geneforge does that mean you don't have trouble with the lighting in the rest of the game? Although using it makes the game simpler since now both sides are annoyingly inferior. The third path is then I'm a God and will decide what is right for all of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 At least one thing that you have asked or stated is true. —Alorael, who really likes this game very much. He should have played it years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk the Great Potato Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Now there are lamps and candles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Anton Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 Really??? G2,3 is good but i don't like G1. it is boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 I preferred GF1 storyline, but GF3 has a better spell and combat system to make up for the worse plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Anton Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Worst PLot?????? No, i don't think so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Geneforge III has by far the worst plot of all the Geneforge series. Geneforge I is the greatest plot in the Geneforge series. You probably just don't like it because the other games have more gameplay improvements. I personally love the moral questions. Geneforge II had a redeemed plot because of Shanti. She's one of my favorite characters in the entire series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I agree about Shanti, too bad she gets killed in an unceremonious way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 She should have been executed in front of you or, if you joined another sect, you should have been able to kill her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Geneforge 2 clearly has the superior plot. The first one was the cliché abandoned forbidden experiments plot, lame. The only good thing about it was that since it was the first in the series, all the shaping concepts were new. Geneforge 2 had the greatest character the in the series yet: Barzahl! This was truly a great man. He realized the potential of shaping powers, used them to change even the geography of the land. Sure he was insane, but that's what made it the best plot in the series. Shanti? She was just another mindless pawn of the Shapers, not even worthy of mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 So, do you always use the Geneforge in G1 then? Shanti is one of Dikiyoba's favorite characters as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I prefer Sharon to Shanti, if only for the reclusiveness. And GF2 is probably my favourite, although I replay GF1 the most, so I'm leaning towards that being the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Dikiyoba:So, do you always use the Geneforge in G1 then? Naturally. I don't understand why anyone would not. That's really the only thing Geneforge 2 and 3 are sorely missing. Please tell me, what is so alluring about Shanti? She is just as arrogant as any other shaper, yet she fears the full potential of shaping powers. If you guys like the mysterious reclusive type characters so much, Phariton would be by far the best. Another point for Geneforge 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 There was a certain sence of strength in her, and she was your mentor. Also, if for nothing else, she was the first none-mad shaper you met in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Also, if you play an Agent, Shanti sort of lays it out about Agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Originally by Emperor Tullegolar: Quote: Naturally. I don't understand why anyone would not. Not everyone is interested in playing a power-hungry maniac, obviously. Dikiyoba likes Shanti because she actually goes out and does some stuff in the game (or tries to, at least) instead of hanging back. And she is a good example of a loyal Shaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Fyora Toast With Roamer Butter Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 No, my goal is to kill absolutely everything on the screens except for the things aligned to my side. Nothing opposing me lives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Fort Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 This has nothing to do with letting your enemies live. To strive to become as powerful and lethal as powerful is also to make the game as easy as possible at each necessary point. Choosing not to use the Geneforge does not in any prevent you from killing everything either in these games, and I mean everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 It's not a question of killing. It's a question of doing it with style. —Alorael, who found that that impulse served him poorly in G4. It is remarkably possible to end up in an increasingly large brawl with explosive enemies. Sooner or later it becomes time to call it quits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk the Great Potato Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 I like to run and hide and take things on one by one. Cowardly? Yes. Smart? Also yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Running and hiding does not sound very shaper-like. Unless you are an agent, you should feel obligated to never show your enemies the slightest sign of weakness or cowardice, no matter how pragmatic it may be. Then again, this might be the canisters talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Hey, Shapers may be arrogrant, but they are also very cautious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Delicious Vlish favored backing up and luring your enemies to their destruction. Even with using the Geneforge in GF1 if you let your enemies swarm you, then you can get slaughtered. There is nothing wrong with a tactical retreat. As Worf in Star Trek: The Next Generation quoted that famous human saying, "He who fights and runs away, lives to run away another day." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 I'm a servile. Serviles are plenty cowardly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Your chances of being an official shaper in GF4 are small. Your chances of being a plucky sort with a large number of enemies after you is somewhere around 110%. —Alorael, who thinks the right tone is set by what he thinks will eventually be the demo. Retrograde maneuvers are very important in strategy and in tactics when you've got an empire after you and no caves to hide in with unexpected bug-eyed allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Cowardly picking off enemies one by one from a distance was definitely a good strategy in GF1-3. But I thought from Jeff's earlier comments that he was trying to emphasise more group combat in GF4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Speaking for one section of the game and not the whole, I can say that he has successfully made group tactics pretty much essential. —Alorael, who did not say group combat was essential. It's almost essential, but it's not. Jeff still believes that those who really want to play a coward with a full pack of living tools and a silver tongue should be able to, and he still believes that it should be really painfully hard. This time, however, you can do it with friends! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Randomizer:Delicious Vlish favored backing up and luring your enemies to their destruction. Even with using the Geneforge in GF1 if you let your enemies swarm you, then you can get slaughtered. There is nothing wrong with a tactical retreat. As Worf in Star Trek: The Next Generation quoted that famous human saying, "He who fights and runs away, lives to run away another day." It has always served me well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Imortel Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 geneforge 1 is the best so far (so much power!!!and you can kill the agents and guardians you get in the end where you read after you use the geneforge)i wonder how gene forge 4 will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Zummi Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 I prefer G2..I like the Barzite ending a lot. Defeating the Shaper Council is quite a feat. Oh yeah.. I hope in G4 that you can really meet the SC not just in ending but maybe in the midgame or something.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Quote: Oh yeah.. I hope in G4 that you can really meet the SC not just in ending but maybe in the midgame or something.. I can neither confirm nor deny this. Although I can say it would be quite interesting to meet South Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody We Didn't Shard of Fire Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 SC? Oh yes, well, while Sasha Cohen might be an, ah, interesting person to meet, I'm really not too interested in professional ice skaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Zummi Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Hahaha.. But really..meeting the Shaper Council midway in the game is quite interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted September 4, 2006 Share Posted September 4, 2006 It'd be interesting to see their reaction when you whip out a canister and chug it right in front of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I'd like to hear the Shaper's Council reaction to the servile in armor with baton and sword that's glowing from too many cannisters. Somehow I don't think stealth will get that past the guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Anton Posted September 10, 2006 Author Share Posted September 10, 2006 Yeah, especially they att you when they see u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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