Kyshakk Koan wxxqut Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I played G4 2 times as shaper and as rebell.But both times I played as human and not as servile.I noticed people saying that its different with a servile so I want to kinow what exact differences are betwen servile and human characters?And by differences I mean text and plot not combat skills. And also can you play as loyalist as servile and help them or they won't use help of serviles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Based on circumstantial evidence, I don't think the people react any differently than in you are human. That said, I started the game specifically to determine this, and I only talked to one loyalist. So at least at the beginning there is no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Jeran Korak Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I think I recall one talk-mode that was slightly differant then the human one's. Thats about it. As far as I know it makes no differance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Nioca Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 You can also access one shop that's inaccessible to humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The major differences come at the end. Loyalists will have slightly different dialog options, but there really isn't as big a difference in game play. Poryphra Ruins when you talk to Shaper Grim is the most interesting one where he talks about what happens after the war. Any servile that doesn't go back under control is to be considered a rogue creation. He feels that serviles should allow themselves to be reabsorbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Travers Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Playing as a servile, there are a few different dialogue lines... a few very touching lines too... <spoilers> Player: "I am a servile. A rogue creation. Nothing but death awaits me at your hands."; Crowley: "You really think that? Recent events have forced us to ... to reevaluate some of our policies. Make no mistake. You will not be hailed as a hero. But you will not be destroyed." ... Crowley: "That is why we can forgive you for your crimes. We can even ignore the way you, a creation, have gone so completely rogue. We can learn from each other, instead of us having to destroy you. But only if you aid us. Help us to help you" Awwwwww... I almost cried. Seriously. It made me think for a moment there was still hope for the Shapers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Taliesin Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I like serviles... because they do my drudge work so well! Muahahaha! No seriously, I'm a benevolent tyrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Travers: Player: "I am a servile. A rogue creation. Nothing but death awaits me at your hands."; Crowley: "You really think that? Recent events have forced us to ... to reevaluate some of our policies. Make no mistake. You will not be hailed as a hero. But you will not be destroyed." ... Crowley: "That is why we can forgive you for your crimes. We can even ignore the way you, a creation, have gone so completely rogue. We can learn from each other, instead of us having to destroy you. But only if you aid us. Help us to help you" Isn't Crowley the general you speak to in the Shaper camp? Does he say those things there or do you meet him again later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug PGLB Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Yeah, Crowley is the guy in the Shaper Camp at the start, but you meet him later at the Shaper Camp in the Fens. I haven't played Loyalist Servile before, so I don't know which camp that dialogue is at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 General Crowley says those lines in the demo-area Shaper Camp. The non-servile version is very similar to it. Dikiyoba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Travers Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 It's similar, but also not similar. To pardon a a rebel criminal is one thing, but to step down and actually request help from not just a servile, but a magic wielding servile with the ability to shape... well that really shows how far the shapers have come. So yeah, I'm having a lot more sympathy for the shapers playing as a servile, as it really changes the story just by changing the context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 It's a start in the right direction for the Shapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Funny. All it says to me is that the Shapers are desperate for a victory. The ending of the loyalists speaks to how much they appreciate you in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Desperate to win or not, it's still better than "Kill the rogue on sight!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Taliesin Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 My qualms about fanatical loyalism are dissolving away. How refreshing. I hope this means more acceptance for Khyryk among the Shaper mainstream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Travers Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 someone want to spoil it for me? How does being a servile change Shaper ending - still [deleted]? It doesn't seem like it would change Trakovite and Rebel endings much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Please keep in mind that this disallowment of the CoC is still in effect: + Using vulgarity and/or obscenities in any language (whether it's in the open, masked, or abbreviated) I know that, in most cases, each of us is capable of more creative and succinct adjectives to describe our opinions. That's actually my primary beef with language usage: too many perfectly fine words feel lonely and left out because we instead overuse and render meaningless once perfectly utilitarian words like "awesome," "gay" "discrimination" and "@^$*%!." -S- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan wxxqut Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 Do dracons still don't trust you as servile?It's really anoying afterall you all are on same side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Travers Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Synergy:Please keep in mind that this disallowment of the CoC is still in effect: + Using vulgarity and/or obscenities in any language (whether it's in the open, masked, or abbreviated) I know that, in most cases, each of us is capable of more creative and succinct adjectives to describe our opinions. That's actually my primary beef with language usage: too many perfectly fine words feel lonely and left out because we instead overuse and render meaningless once perfectly utilitarian words like "awesome," "gay" "discrimination" and "@^$*%!." -S- I didn't censor it, the message board did. I'm perfectly capable of deciding what language to use on my own. thanks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma wary wanderer Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I think that was the point -- that when you're in a shared space such as these boards, you actually can't choose what words you use. Well, you can, but only within the parameters of the rules set out in the CoC. That you didn't reduce the explitive to asterisks doesn't exactly make your post more praiseworthy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Travers:I'm perfectly capable of deciding what language to use on my own. Yes you are. And you will experience consequences for any choice you make. There are consequences here, if you choose to post thinly-veiled obscenities. I have blotted your poorly-chosen word, since you did not choose to make it more CoC compliant after a friendly reminder. Don't make me do it again. It is my choice to reasonably honor the parameters set up by the owner of these boards, which I have agreed to do. -S- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Travers Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 christ, get real dude. Again, MY CHOICE OF WORDS WAS TRANSPARENT. There was NO deceit on my part. I DID NOT CHOOSE TO VEIL MY CHOICE OF WORDS LIKE YOU ARE SUGGESTING. But as such, the board did not find my choice acceptable, and changed it accordingly. That is PERFECTLY fine with me. It should be clear that ****-py IS accepted, as the board changed it from crappy to ****-py, adding the dash, instead of just omitting the entire thing completely. The board changed it - okay, whatever, no one gets hurt, I move on. HOWEVER, I'm not in the mood to be bossed around by a moderator who feels the need to exercise his phallic rights. It just irks me. I hope you understnad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Travers:MY CHOICE OF WORDS WAS TRANSPARENT. Yes, that was precisely the problem. The letters you left behind were not "-py," lest you are inclined to censor your memory, rather than your choice of words. Apparently, you are having difficulty understanding or accepting what is not okay according to the CoC. The CoC is the law, not the auto-censor function of the board. Please familiarize yourself with it. There will be no more time wasted on this here. -S- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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