Tenderfoot Thahd Piero Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I can't cross the secret bridge to his camp. Learned Dominic has given me the quest but I still can't cross over... Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 There are some bandits in Murkwood. In their lair, you will find a clue that allows you to find Crenshaw's base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Piero Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 I have searched their lair but cant find anything... I'll try again. Edit: Found it. Was near their armory kind of thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 A bit off topic: I don't suppose this is the same Crenshaw who had that dell back in Geneforge 4, is it? I know Jeff reuses names from time to time, but usually not within the same series and usually not with semi-major characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Vempele Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 No such Crenshaw in GF4. You're thinking of Keeper Tycho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 No - there was a zone called "Crenshaw's Dell". Sleeping Dragon is asking if the zone in GF4 is named after the character in GF5. I wondered the same thing, though I thought Crenshaw's Dell was in GF1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Quote: Sleeping Dragon is asking if the zone in GF4 is named after the character in GF5. Judging by Crenshaw's relative unimportance, it is unlikely that the place was named after the character. A likely explanation is both the character and the place are named after a more famous Crenshaw. An even more likely explanation is Jeff subconsciously reused the same name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Originally Posted By: *i An even more likely explanation is Jeff subconsciously reused the same name. He's said that he names characters after people he knows, so I'd say this explanation is the winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Uberdhizon Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Crenshaw's Dell was in GF2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Originally Posted By: Uberdhizon Crenshaw's Dell was in GF2. No, it was in the forsaken lands in GF4. Although i believe the person's name was something like Keeper Tycho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Bonus points: Footracer is probably someone knows or knew and didn't like very much. —Alorael, who is a bit surprised that there are no Krizsans in Geneforge as far as he knows. Maybe Jeff got it out of his system in Avernum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Sleeping Dragon Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Vempele is kind of correct. I did forget the Keeper's name was Tycho and thought it was Crenshaw. He surrendered too you and asked you to let him go, so it seemed like it might have been the same guy, you know? I think one of the stranger things Jeff did with names was change the one mage's name in Avernum 3 from Jordan to Bojar. Jordan wasn't exotic enough for him, I guess. True, but it did make him memorable. Bojar sounds too much like Bjorn, the guy who designed the Halls of Chaos. Hmm, I hope I can remember all the names on my history finals as well as I can for these games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Originally Posted By: Sleeping Dragon I think one of the stranger things Jeff did with names was change the one mage's name in Avernum 3 from Jordan to Bojar. Jordan wasn't exotic enough for him, I guess. True, but it did make him memorable. Bojar sounds too much like Bjorn, the guy who designed the Halls of Chaos. The funny part of this story is that he changed the name while keeping the real-life cameo unchanged: E. Jordan Bojar is part of Studio Foglio (which occasionally does graphics for Spiderweb Software), and is credited for the logos of Avernum, A2 and Nethergate. So if you run into a rogue mage named Ellis in some later game, you know who it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Jeff didn't actually change the mage's name. There is at least one place in Exile 3 where the mage's full name is given as "Jordan Bojar". A handful of other characters changed names in a similar way between Exile and Avernum. Exile 2's "Gilda" became Avernum 2's "Radner", making clear the reference to Gilda Radner. It would be interesting to compile a list of all the name cameos in Jeff's games -- there are an awful lot. In E2, E3, and BoE there were entire towns of NPCs named after TV shows (Absolutely Fabulous, The Kids in the Hall, Babylon 5, etc.). Solberg was probably named after Andrew Solberg, a friend of Jeff's, which has always made me wonder if Linda is named for Linda Strout, who was a friend before she became an employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 Originally Posted By: Slarty there were entire towns of NPCs named after TV shows And one after the characters of Trainspotting, I have heard. I don't recall which town it was - Wainscotting would seem to be the obvious guess because of the name, but I think "Sick Boy" was in Shayder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora Lempa Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 In G5 there's Private Savage and Private Hyneman wich I believe is a reference to Mythbusters Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Waladil Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Wow. at least 2 games w/ that name (I KNOW there was a zone in GF4 with that name, it was the second "true combat" zone I would clear) and a person. What did that guy do to become so famous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Which guy? Crenshaw? As the topic says, he probably managed to be Jeff's friend. —Alorael, who supposes he also could have provided entertainment or amusement to Jeff unknowingly. Bitter rivalry also isn't out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 This is a list of names that we have identified. There are others like Crenshaw that are suspicious, but we haven't identified them, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 That list is absolutely massive!! Just curious, how many people put in on that list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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