Curious Artila falco1029 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 What're the chances of a "Blades of Geneforge" type of game coming out? I just think that'd be awesome. Infinite Geneforge . I like geneforge better than Avernum, if you haven't guessed, he he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Don't get your hopes up. Why? Because Blades of Avernum didn't sell well, took up too much of Jeff's time, and was hard to design for. There's no reason for BoG to be any better. So the answer is no. Unfortunate, but that's the way it is. Dikiyoba. Edit: Rephrasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila falco1029 Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 Ah, well, that's a shame. One of my friends just gave me Blades of Avernum as a present of sorts (in other word,s he owed me money, didnt have any cash on him, so I told him to buy me this with online-usable funds, hehe), and though I've only played demos of the Avernum series (I just bought geneforge one, but only played demos of the others so far), but I know I'd definitely buy a blades of geneforge game. Ah well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 It is possible to simulate GF fairly exactly in BoA (except the interface and real-time stuff), although no one has done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Jeff could probably make a Blades of Geneforge, but he will need a lot of convincing that there is a market to make it worth his time. Poor Blades of Avernum sales pretty much have eliminated any chance of seeing it for the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila falco1029 Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share Posted May 3, 2007 well the real time stuff is one of the key reasons i like geneforge better. Though the shaper concept definitely is one of said reasons as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Sounds great in theory, but it would probably be really tough to do in reality. For it to be as good as the Geneforge series, it would need about a year or more to code. In the meantime, someone could always keep the idea alive by starting a "BoG blog." (Sorry, I couldn't resist the pun! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk macdude22 Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 I'd buy it, BoA is the best. Sales of BoA must be through the roof by now, I've been pushing it hardcore. And I know dozens of people and one of them bought BoA, using tv ratings logic 1 person = 1 million so 1 million people must have bought BoA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted May 3, 2007 Share Posted May 3, 2007 Blades of Geneforge would probably be harder for graphics designers, at least. There's a lot of graphics needed for the animations, etc. But don't worry! Chant! Chanting solves everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila falco1029 Posted May 5, 2007 Author Share Posted May 5, 2007 Yeah I'm sure it would be a lot harder to create custom graphics for, but you dont NEED custom images for a game to be good. A party system (as in making more than 1 character, not having monsters and npcs as your party) would be nice though, having each person have their own set of monster spaces. Well, one can dream I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Jeran Korak Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 *Chants* BoG BoG BoG We love u BoG BoG BoG We love u BoG BoG BoG We love u BoG BoG BoG We love u BoG BoG BoG We love u BoG BoG BoG We love u BoG BoG BoG We love u BoG BoG BoG We love u *Stops Chanting, looks around* Go on, I'd buy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Dolphin Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Geneforge's plot doesn't leave a ton of room to elaborate beyond what Jeff has already written in the series. The storyline is pretty straightforward, and honestly I don’t really foresee BoG having many designers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 Well, do you think all those Agents and Guardians learn hellishly deadly magic for fun? There are always tasks that can be done. Glorified side quests, maybe, but still plot-applicable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 There will not be Blades of Geneforge. There will never be Blades of Geneforge. There are numerous reasons for this, which involve not only the performance of BoA but also the fact that Jeff has said it doesn't make sense, for numerous tactical reasons related to scenario design. And he's right. There will never be Blades of Geneforge. Do I need to put it in the forum header? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila falco1029 Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Yama: There will never be Blades of Geneforge. Do I need to put it in the forum header? yes, you do. What're the reasons though, just how difficult the design would be, and the graphics, and such? Bah, such a shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 BoA took so long to make and sold so poorly that Spidweb was in a pretty tight spot financially. I don't think anyone wants that to happen again, least of all Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Maybe as a going-out-of-business resent for when Jeff retires. Anything to stay hopeful. Anything. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 This topic is frequently discussed, however, Falco wouldn't know that(Unless he's like me who pokes around at ancient topics). The truth is, I would never buy BoG. For one thing, I'm currently making a scenario for BoA. Two, Geneforge has a confusing interface. Three, its graphics are boring. BoA's are unique and fun, and they also possess better quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Personally I find the Blades of Avernum graphics for Windows to be drab and unappealling. For natural outdoors settings they are way too angular, much like a skyscraper. The Geneforge 4 interface is quite good, the only problems that I have seen are: you are never told exactly what your maximum essence is, you have to calculate it yourself,(the maximum remaining essence after you have made a creation.) you have to click on the question mark to bring up a list of the relevant creation's hp and energy, there is no quick list of how all the creations are doing it is generally "retro", that is true, but you can work around or get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 As Jeff has commented before, there are elements of the Geneforge engine that lend themselves less readily to scenario design than Avernum's. The big one is that it's much less generalizable. BoE and BoA have the potential to fit practically any world you can imagine, and can fit most generic fantasy worlds without significant added effort. Geneforge really only fits the Geneforge world. This would severely limit the number of scenarios likely to emerge from Blades of Geneforge, and would even more severely limit the number of people who would even be interested in using the scenario editor. Also: One of the easiest and most popular ways to customize BoE and BoA scenarios is with custom graphics. Geneforge engine graphics require more frames, and altogether a lot more work to get a set of sprites that actually looks reasonable. The poor showing of BoA is the nail in the coffin, but I wouldn't expect to see BoG even if BoA had seen Avernum 4 level sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 It doesn't exactly help that Jeff apparently really hates making scenario editors. He's complained about the amount of work it involves both of the times he's done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Xaiya Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Saying someone complains is kind of like critizing. Jeff was just stressed out (with blood pressure most likely rising). Also, there is no hope in a BoG. Also (again), I wonder if Jeff exercises, that would help with stress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Jeff's got two little children. Excerise is the least of his problems. He gets plenty keeping track of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila falco1029 Posted May 9, 2007 Author Share Posted May 9, 2007 It's so sad. Ah well, I suppose I'll live. BUt not happily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Xaiya Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Oh get over it! Everyone does, even me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila falco1029 Posted May 10, 2007 Author Share Posted May 10, 2007 Make me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I think we're done here. BoG is, for better or worse, not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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