Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 It seemed like there was a fair chance of creations going Rogue or running away in terror in G1. It happened pretty often if the health got low enough. In G2 the scale of rogue/terror tipped in the favor of terror, but I still recall creations going rogue on me. In G3? Never. Not even on torment have I ever seen a creation go rogue, no matter the health or how low Intelligence I buy for my creations (I never get more than 2 anyway). Has this rather intresting element in the game been wiped away completly, or is it just so that it is extremely rare/ only happens to creations that has less than Int 2 bought for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Walter Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Odd, I beat Geneforge 1 without ever having a creation go rogue (though they ran away often enough). And I always only bought 2 intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Dolphin Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I have not seen creations go rogue in GF3, but I typically make them with two points of intelligence. The few I have left at zero intelligence did not go rogue either, so perhaps that feature was removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Creations can go rogue in G3. There are some critters now that can Dominate. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I was under the impression that only creations with less than 2 Int went rogue in all three games. None of my creations ever went rogue, and I rarely bought more than 2 Int for any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan tridash Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 When I was playing as a guardian, a Fyora with no Intelligence did go rogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 20, 2005 Author Share Posted June 20, 2005 No, creatures with and over Int of 2 can go Rogue, this I got positive knowledge of from G2. As for other creatures dominating, well that is beyond the actuall point of this topic. But going Rogue in G3 seems to be very rare, something that is rather sad since it added another level of gameplay back in G1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Hume Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 You guys kidding? I was a agent with no creations in g3. But have my Alwan and Greta gone rogue quite a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Khoth Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 I've only once had a creation go rogue, and that was one that had no intelligence that I was repeatedly hitting and healing to see if it went rogue. Are you sure that Alwan and Greta went rogue (attacking you) rather than being paralysed with fear or fleeing in terror? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 21, 2005 Author Share Posted June 21, 2005 I don't think Greta and Alwan can go "Rogue". They are not creations, per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Greta and Alwan can go rogue it's happened to me a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 21, 2005 Author Share Posted June 21, 2005 Did you buy up their Int? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Hume Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 They have been bought 2 int when they first come. Thats why you can control them at the beginning. Well, going rogue isn't such a big deal. You can heal it with cure effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 21, 2005 Author Share Posted June 21, 2005 ::Laughs:: You can heal Rouge by "Cure"? Would that not mean that you should, technically, be able to convert any creation you come across with Cure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Hume Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 Why the hell laugh? Do you think I'm a blond woman? Well, in g1 going rogue was incurable. You have either to kill it or load. In g2, there was a place my creation going rogue very often. So I tried everything, and found this spell worked. Remove Effects (Essence: 6, Spell Energy: 60, Min. Skill: 5) – Purges the target of all negative effects, including mental ones. The higher the spell strength, the more afflictions are removed. It also worked in g3. Sorry about the wrong magic name in the last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Quote: Originally written by Hume:Why the hell laugh? Do you think I'm a blond woman? This statement is completely opaque to me. I'm tempted to lock this topic, but I can't come up with any specific reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Hume Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 http://www.ironycentral.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=19;t=000335 This tread may help you understand what I mean of blond woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 So you're playing on stereotypes. I was assuming that was beneath you, but apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Hume Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 That blond woman was playing stereotypes. I was playing mimicries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Travers Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Quote: Originally written by Kelandon:So you're playing on stereotypes. I was assuming that was beneath you, but apparently not. I find your holier than thou attitude more offensive. Stereotypes aren't something so heinous - they're extrodinarily pervasive in popular cultre and compter games especially roleplaying ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Burglaries are common too. That doesn't make them a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Hume Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Well, I was a little angry about that woman who blame the stereotype for her stupidity. So I mimiced her as a sort of irony. Myself is a black man. We are talking about hair colour, arn't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 22, 2005 Author Share Posted June 22, 2005 So not only is this topic no longer about Going Rogue, but about pointless prejudice and stereotypes? O-key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Threads have a habit of doing that. I'm not sure there's that much more on-topic material to be discussed for this particular topic, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Travers Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Quote: Originally written by Thuryl:Burglaries are common too. That doesn't make them a good thing. So you're saying no form of entertainment media should use stereotypes? I'd like to hear you defend that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 I would, but this isn't General, and we've gone far enough off topic already. Might be better to just let the thread fade away on its own at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 Thuryl is very right, as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted June 22, 2005 Share Posted June 22, 2005 I'm only unlocking this to make two points. 1) Going rogue is different from being charmed. Rogue creations no longer have any bond to you. 2) More offensive and prejudiced comments will probably result in a banning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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