Well-Actually War Trall Sarachim Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Ephesos Nah, Orbital Power Transmitters are really all you need. I'll live without these if we can also not have mind worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 Lasers are really not that impressive. May I recommend weaponized chaos? Or possibly mind worms? —Alorael, who will be contentedly in the future once he can nerve staple his first victim. It will probably be a rat, but science moves by increments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Tachyon beams are good for solving all sorts problems, pretty much. At least Commander Data seem to think so. So why haven't you lazy scientists already used them to fix potholes, end the need for temporal anomalies like Daylight Savings Time, and give us flying cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Enraged Slith Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 ICE CREAM IS SUPER GOOD BUT IT'S COLD AND MAKES MY TEETH HATE, SO THEY NEED TO MAKE IT HOT BUT NOT SO HOT THAT IT BURNS, SO MAYBE WARM. IT NEEDS TO BE WARM. ALSO, CHOCOLATE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 At that point, though, you might as well ditch the ice cream and just eat pure hot fudge out of the jar. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan inni Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba At that point, though, you might as well ditch the ice cream and just eat pure hot fudge out of the jar. Dikiyoba. hot fudge on ice-cream.... yum! what we need to do is get the scientists on the forums to make vanilla ice-cream that tastes good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: No Intro what we need to do is get the scientists on the forums to make vanilla ice-cream that tastes good. It turns out scientists like ice cream as much as the rest of us, because they've already done that. It's called "vanilla bean" and it is much more delicious than ordinary vanilla. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 Any definition of "ordinary vanilla" that can exclude any actual vanilla bean is not a good definition. No, let me refine that. Any definition of "vanilla" that can exclude any actual vanilla bean is not a good definition. —Alorael, who would also have you turn down your mockery and improve your own ice cream with science! Or at least with chemicals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 In Europe vanilla is actually a flavor, not just plain. Seriously, though, food science is some pretty mad stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity In Europe vanilla is actually a flavor, not just plain. Ah. I was confused by the vanilla hate - vanilla is my favourite flavour of ice cream - but if it just means plain outside of Europe, I can understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Locmaar Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Admit None No, let me refine that. Any definition of "vanilla" that can exclude any actual vanilla bean is not a good definition. Is it really a bean? Not an orchid? Or do you call the pod bean? Or only the processed pod? I'd love to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 It's supposed to mean the actual flavor in North America, too. It's just that there it's almost invariably artificial vanilla flavor, and not much of that either, so it tastes of nothing in particular. And that's what people expect. Even so-called 'French vanilla' or 'Venetian vanilla' ice cream is simply dyed yellowish; it's generally the same fake vanilla. Hence the expression 'plain vanilla' to mean a default version of something, with no extras at all. In Germany (for one place) you can buy actual plain ice cream, with no flavors at all. It's bland but rich — not a particularly popular product, but seems to have its little niche. Vanilla is a long, thin bean, about the proportions of a pencil, but shrunk to maybe 4 inch length. For flavoring it seems to be used in dried form, or perhaps it's roasted like coffee; anyway, it's very black and brittle. It's usually ground to powder, or dissolved into some liquid extract. But it can also be made to flavor sugar by just sealing the bean up in a jar of sugar for several weeks. Perversely, it's easy to buy genuine vanilla extract in Canadian and American supermarkets, and one can even find the beans in specialty shops. I've found it comparatively hard to find real vanilla for baking in Europe. In Germany they mostly sell this ghastly fake 'butter vanilla' flavoring. I import vanilla extract from the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Locmaar Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity I've found it comparatively hard to find real vanilla for baking in Europe. In Germany they mostly sell this ghastly fake 'butter vanilla' flavoring. I import vanilla extract from the US. I guess it is called 'bean' then, even though I'm still not sure from when on. Said bean, which you can buy in most well-sorted supermarkets in Germany, can also be cut lengthwise and then be boiled in milk to add its superb flavor to some baking later. What stores have you been to looking for real ('Bourbon') vanilla extract? Not all German supermarkets have it, granted, but the better ones usually do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody waterplant Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Vanilla is a genus of orchid of which the seed pod is used in cooking. Vanilla planifolia is the common Bourbon vanilla, originating in Madagascar (Reunion I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Locmaar Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Reunion used to be called Bourbon, hence the name. It belongs to France, however, not Madagascar, and is curiously part of the European Union. But when's the pod a bean, is what I want to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer vstef96 Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Yet another topic derailed, from server moving, to science then to mad science and now to vanilla ice cream, nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody waterplant Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Locmaar Reunion used to be called Bourbon, hence the name. It belongs to France, however, not Madagascar, and is curiously part of the European Union. But when's the pod a bean, is what I want to know Not sure. Beans are often Fabaceae and contain a handful of large seeds, while an orchid's (I'm not big on orchids) seed pod contains hundreds or more tiny seeds. The term 'bean' is not a botanical term but a common word describing a seed pod of that general shape - hence bean shaped seed pod = bean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Locmaar Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I'm with you here. I want to know when I can use the word 'bean' in the context of vanilla. Language-wise. Being a non-native, it's sometimes hard to unearth such arcana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan inni Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 this: now you can make all the ice-cream you can dream of, even if it is vanilla. (yuck) have fun inni who will add not to try this, ever. And in third person, how cool is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity Perversely, it's easy to buy genuine vanilla extract in Canadian and American supermarkets, and one can even find the beans in specialty shops. I've found it comparatively hard to find real vanilla for baking in Europe. In Germany they mostly sell this ghastly fake 'butter vanilla' flavoring. I import vanilla extract from the US. Weird. Vanilla extract is easy to come by in England - even the small supermarket I work at sells it. I have no idea about the beans, having never wanted to buy any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity In Germany they mostly sell this ghastly fake 'butter vanilla' flavoring. Have you tried using Repel Spirit against it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody waterplant Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Most Germans I see use a vanilla pod. So strange to see the actual ingredient being used instead of the convenient processed version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Good to know there's hope for finding real vanilla here; I've really only looked in Edeka, since we kind of found one good big supermarket when we moved here, and stuck to it. I should check out Wasgau, which seems to have a bit better selection of relatively exotic items. Including Hass avocados — the darker, wrinkly ones — which are the only ones worth getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody waterplant Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Outdoor markets are your best bet or if there's a bioladen nearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan cfgauss Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 How come the #2 result in google for "vanilla" is the wikipedia article on "vanilla sex"? Why does this even need an article?! At any rate, real vanilla is delicious, but I can't think of too much I can taste it in. Other than the occasional old fashioned vanilla sodas. And I always wondered why no one makes extra-vanilla ice cream that actually has a taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Locmaar Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I don't know what region you're in, but we have a couple of organic food stores and supermarkets (Here or here) that sell different varieties, processed and non. tegut, aktiv, extra, famila, real, metro all have real vanilla beanpods and Vanillezucker with 6% Bourbon and more, at least up north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody waterplant Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: cfgauss At any rate, real vanilla is delicious, but I can't think of too much I can taste it in. Other than the occasional old fashioned vanilla sodas. True. I wonder if vanilla would be such a household name if not for ice cream. I much prefer the term vanilla girl/boy to plain jane/average joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I guess I was really looking for the liquid vanilla extract, since that's what the North American recipes I know call for. It's pretty good, if you get actual vanilla extract — unfortunately imitation extract also exists, which is a poor substitute. Vanillezucker is kind of a mystery to me, and actual beans/pods are a bit too hard core. I'm not sure what to do with them. But if I can really find them, maybe it'll be worth trying to figure something out. The boiling in milk idea doesn't sound too hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity I guess I was really looking for the liquid vanilla extract, since that's what the North American recipes I know call for. It's pretty good, if you get actual vanilla extract — unfortunately imitation extract also exists, which is a poor substitute. Vanillezucker is kind of a mystery to me, and actual beans/pods are a bit too hard core. I'm not sure what to do with them. But if I can really find them, maybe it'll be worth trying to figure something out. The boiling in milk idea doesn't sound too hard. Just make homemade vanilla extract. It's surprisingly simple, and very delicious: Click to reveal.. (Homemade Vanilla Extract) 1.Buy some light/medium rum. a 750 mL bottle works best, but a 375 works okay too, just adjust the amount of vanilla accordingly. 2.Pour yourself a shot of rum. Drink it. 3.Using a sharp knife(best to do this stepquickly after step 2) bisect 3-5 vanilla beans(the more vanilla, the stronger the flavor, and the shorter the wait), but leave them slightly attached on one side. Then, fold them open. When you're done, it should look like a butterfly with two wings 1/8th of an inch wide and about five inches high. You'll know what I'm talking about when you see it. 4.If you haven't taken step 2 yet, do so. You'll need the space freed up. 5. Drop the vanilla beans inside the rum. 6.Aww, you've just ruined some good rum. Have another drink. 7.This ferments, right? And fermentation needs oxygen, right? Better free up some more space in the bottle, so you get better vanilla, of course. Have another drink. 7 1/2. Thr3e is an oodd nUmber. Betr havve anuther drank. 8.Reseal the bottle tightly, date it, and then store it in a cool, dark, and dry place. 9.Wait about 3 months, less if you've used more beans(or had lots of rum to drink) (since this is the internet, I must regrettably include the following two steps) 10. ???? 11. Delicious, vanilla-flavored profit. I laid down a bottle in February, and I just ran out of my old bottle, so I eagerly await May 4th, when I can pop open a new bottle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 Vanilla can be used in all kinds of things. Vanilla pudding, vanilla cookies, vanilla added to plain yoghurt to make something very different from commercial vanilla yoghurt. If vanilla ice cream hadn't become plain, maybe it would be used more often. —Alorael, who has chewed on the beans. It's delicious. Your mileage may vary very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Quote: Vanilla can be used in all kinds of things. I add a small amount of vanilla extract to my pancake batter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Originally Posted By: CRISIS on INFINITE SLARTIES Originally Posted By: upon mars Or i shall parody this thread and stun you with my awful writing! Please, stun us! Are you being serious? Should i post a Gogon's head upon this thread? it seems utterly preposterous... well should i give it a try? Not that i would to but still... People might be offended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Don't. I'm guessing Slarty disliked the fact that you seemed to be threatening. Don't try to do our job for us, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Well then, i shall obey, like any good dog... Diogenes at your service... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Actually, I was expressing my general appreciation for Upon Mars's posts, which I find poetically amusing. I also have a general appreciation for parodies. So my entreaty to stun was in earnest. I did not think anyone was making a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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