Tenderfoot Thahd Rahvasaadik Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I have reasons to believe that the character in Geneforge 5 is the one who created the Geneforge in the first place. My suspicions arose when the game told me in the end that the character was very sad to see the last Geneforge to be drained, not even knowing why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Bul- Wait, that could of actually happened. But its Jeff, the past PC's have no affect and are never mentioned again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 No way. The Sucian Geneforge was created almost 250 years prior to the plot in Geneforge 5. The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Øther Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 The PC is immortal! The PC can timetravel! The PC is a super shaper-scientist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Neossokrass Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 This post is stupid! Why did I belittle a newb! God, why am I shouting! Sseriously, why did you post that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 You can meet the ghost of the creator of the Geneforge in G1, so she's definitely not still alive in G5. The reason you're sad to see the last Geneforge destroyed is that you've been modified it and you're addicted to the power it brings. Don't read too much into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Besides Jeff admits after 11 game storylines he can't remember what he wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Rahvasaadik I have reasons to believe that the character in Geneforge 5 is the one who created the Geneforge in the first place. My suspicions arose when the game told me in the end that the character was very sad to see the last Geneforge to be drained, not even knowing why. Do you have any other reasons? Vague sadness is not a lot to build a theory on. —Alorael, who imagines that lots of people were sad to see the Geneforge go. So many ambitions of world domination so callously dashed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Rahvasaadik Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 Wow, whats up with the offense. Besides, far-fetched ideas are my speciality. *casts lvl 20 mass daze on you all* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Barzhal Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I am convinced that the identity of the PC is Bernard from GF2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Barzhal I am convinced that the identity of the PC is Bernard from GF2. No, no! If the PC is anyone from G2, it's Sharon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Barzhal Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Goldenking Originally Posted By: Barzhal I am convinced that the identity of the PC is Bernard from GF2. No, no! If the PC is anyone from G2, it's Sharon! OK, I admit, Sharon is probably the only NPC in four play-throughs that I never killed so I can definitely see her surviving (common, you can't kill Sharon, she helps you non-stop and gives you the best bracelet ever). I can't see Sharon shaping herself in her old age though. Maybe ... Maybe agent Mouawad from GF4..she was on the council..back when there were 9 council members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Barzhal Originally Posted By: Goldenking Originally Posted By: Barzhal I am convinced that the identity of the PC is Bernard from GF2. No, no! If the PC is anyone from G2, it's Sharon! OK, I admit, Sharon is probably the only NPC in four play-throughs that I never killed so I can definitely see her surviving (common, you can't kill Sharon, she helps you non-stop and gives you the best bracelet ever). I can't see Sharon shaping herself in her old age though. Maybe ... Maybe agent Mouawad from GF4..she was on the council..back when there were 9 council members. Alright, you've clearly got things messed up. Here are the most likely people it could have been, from each game. G1 - Brodus Blade G2 - Sharon G3 - Lankan G4 - Pol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Originally Posted By: Barzhal Maybe agent Mouawad from GF4..she was on the council..back when there were 9 council members. Dikiyoba doesn't remember exactly what she said, but she definitely didn't say she was part of the Council outright. Given that there are a few Agents sent out on missions by Shema in G5, Dikiyoba thinks it's more likely she was just on a mission on behalf of the Council and not a member of the Council herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Goldengirl Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Originally Posted By: Barzhal Maybe agent Mouawad from GF4..she was on the council..back when there were 9 council members. Dikiyoba doesn't remember exactly what she said, but she definitely didn't say she was part of the Council outright. Given that there are a few Agents sent out on missions by Shema in G5, Dikiyoba thinks it's more likely she was just on a mission on behalf of the Council and not a member of the Council herself. That is, actually, what she said. Although, she also said there were nine members of the Council, three from each sect. Which would make sense, as there were two extra provinces, Burwood and Illya, back in those days. Although, if the Dera Reaches get counted as a province... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Barzhal Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 OK Goldenking, I can agree with you on Pol. Although Lankin started to become shaped, I would say Therese is a more likely candidate. Mouawad was in Rivergate to keep an eye an Alwan. The council doesn't trust anybody, etc. I figured she died along with another to make 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 There are still nine council members, according to Rawal. Let's see. There's Counciler Shaper Rawal himself. Agent Astoria, General Alwan, Sage Taygen, High Councilor Shema, Councilor Sharissa of the Nodye Coast, and Councilor Nawaz of Lethis Province. Direct quote from Rawal: The Last Archon Edit: Quote taken out for inaccuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Check your sources again. Shema, Sharissa and Nawaz were the ones he was referring to with that quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Oh. My mistake. But that still leaves the confusion of Mouwad. If the two councilor's were killed during the innitial assualt on the Shapers by the Rebels, then why does she still say Nine Council members. Ooh, dear. More cannon confusion. The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Rawal says there are seven council members at least twice. The number of Councilors is just something that got retconned for G5. (Alternatively, there were two Shaper continents and nine Councilors. Two Councilors ruled the second continent. Once the Unbound were released and the Council realized that the rebellion might actually win, they Barred all knowledge of the second continent and other two Councilors from Terrestia. Hundreds of Agents and spies were sent out to purge all records, servant minds, and old folk who might complain about things being better in the old days when there were two continents, it took five action points to attack, and you had to walk a mile uphill both ways to get to the outhouse.) Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Originally Posted By: Goldenking Originally Posted By: Barzhal Originally Posted By: Goldenking I am convinced that the identity of the PC is Bernard from GF2. No, no! If the PC is anyone from G2, it's Sharon! OK, I admit, Sharon is probably the only NPC in four play-throughs that I never killed so I can definitely see her surviving (common, you can't kill Sharon, she helps you non-stop and gives you the best bracelet ever). I can't see Sharon shaping herself in her old age though. Maybe ... Maybe agent Mouawad from GF4..she was on the council..back when there were 9 council members. Alright, you've clearly got things messed up. Here are the most likely people it could have been, from each game. G1 - Brodus Blade G2 - Sharon G3 - Lankan G4 - Pol *spits* POL?! Your a funny man. And remind me, who is Brodus Blade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Originally Posted By: Xelgion And remind me, who is Brodus Blade? A high-ranking soldier for the Awakened. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 A Blade to be specific. Basically a Servile Guardian without shaping or magical powers. Originally Posted By: Diki (Alternatively, there were two Shaper continents and nine Councilors. Two Councilors ruled the second continent. Once the Unbound were released and the Council realized that the rebellion might actually win, they Barred all knowledge of the second continent and other two Councilors from Terrestia. Hundreds of Agents and spies were sent out to purge all records, servant minds, and old folk who might complain about things being better in the old days when there were two continents, it took five action points to attack, and you had to walk a mile uphill both ways to get to the outhouse.) Oh, I remember those golden days as well. Back when thahds went into battle naked, when Fyora's stood upright and proudly Battle Alpha's that did not look like miniature Hulk Hogan's. Those were the day's, man. (The sad part is, your probably right.) The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Xelgion Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Damn straight. Those Thahds where beast. Same with Alphas, never liked the animation for then eva since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Actually, I love the knew Battle Alpha graphic's. Makes them look much more beefy and intimidating. The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba (Alternatively, there were two Shaper continents and nine Councilors. Two Councilors ruled the second continent. Once the Unbound were released and the Council realized that the rebellion might actually win, they Barred all knowledge of the second continent and other two Councilors from Terrestia. Hundreds of Agents and spies were sent out to purge all records, servant minds, and old folk who might complain about things being better in the old days when there were two continents, it took five action points to attack, and you had to walk a mile uphill both ways to get to the outhouse.) Clearly that's wrong. Geneforge never had hills, even back when there were two continents. What I find most puzzling is how all of the Councillors are in Western Terrestria. In the Shaper-controlled provinces in G4, regular Shapers were in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 That was also still infested with Rebels and rogues. Forget Moseh, if Prirk had heard that Shema was taking a stroll around Illya, she would have jumped on him like a coyote on a sack of dead roadrunner. Or think of it this way. The French have suddenly attacked England and captured London. The English have defeated the main French army, and have taken back control of London. But, there are still french platoons hiding in buildings, and land mines on every corner. Is it really that smart to move the whole of Parliament back in? _____ On the subject of the decrease of councilors, I guess one could make sense of it by saying that the three councilors that ruled Eastern Terrestia escaped during the first rebel assault to Mera-Tev, then caught kill by the Unbound. The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Barzhal Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 That was also still infested with Rebels and rogues. Forget Moseh, if Prirk had heard that Shema was taking a stroll around Illya, she would have jumped on him like a coyote on a sack of dead roadrunner. Prirk was an incapable leader at best. She admitted herself she fell into the position because people happened to listen to her. Jumping all over Shema would be as likely as it would have been for her to jump all over you for helping Moseh (and then killing Eliza and Shaftoe). I have no respect for Prirk or any of the other weak rebels in that safehouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 When compared to the other rebel leaders that got themselves killed in Thornton, she is capable enough. However, that was just an example. The point stands; Alwan new the Rebels were weak but not their exact strength. As we've been told in Dillame in G4, a few well placed assassinations forced the Shapers out of the streets and into the citadel. If the former Illya Councilor was to go there immediately after it was liberated, for little to no gain, he/she would likely get killed. The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Originally Posted By: Master Ackrovan Or think of it this way. The French have suddenly attacked England and captured London. The English have defeated the main French army, and have taken back control of London. But, there are still french platoons hiding in buildings, and land mines on every corner. Is it really that smart to move the whole of Parliament back in? I knew the Channel Tunnel was a bad idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Right. If it wasn't for the Chunnel, the French would have had to take those awful boats to get to England, which would take forever, not to mention it would devastate their morale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Don't worry Nikki. They'd retreat after the first soldier broke a nail In fact, I'm up for a new 100 year war. [/continuation of French jokes] The Last Archon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 ...I'm half-French. (Well, this is a thread about "Revelations"...) Anyway, your point makes sense, but there's no evidence that Councillors EVER ran provinces in Eastern Terrestria. And, a slightly different point, since when did they only meet annually? And especially during wartime? In G1 (and maybe 2 and 3, I can't remember), the PC was able to go straight to the Shaper Council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Up until G5, there was no evidence that Shaper Council members would be running provinces at all. They were always portrayed as being very centralized. Given that, I think it makes sense that they would be mostly located near the Council itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Perhaps, with the rebellion, the Council assumed control of all remaining provinces. Prior to that, it would make sense to stay holed up and let the continent run itself and only come out to spank those who were not content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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