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I don't know what to tell you... The numbers changed to what you have.

You are right. The question should have been: Fastest way to a Drayk for someone wanting to join the Awakened (or the Takers). Not the Servants or the Barzites.

Crap... so, I can't kill Pinner to free the Awakened from a pacifist, naive woman that is going to lead us to disaster? Frankly, I may do that anyway. Even if it is not "the good ending". The problem is ... I like Pinner. She is a kind, gentle Servile. But not a war-time commander. We need 10 Pinners after we grab the Shapers by the throat, burn half their forts and dismantle their Empire.

The Barrier of the Winds or how it was called in the Original is defensive, unless Pinner didn't tell me the entire truth, which is completely possible. The Takers... they are too extreme. I have walked around and talked to various awakened. Most are less pacificist than Pinner. There have been Awakened that talk about the great injustice done to them. My problem with the Takers is that they are clearly and openly antagonistic to all the other serviles and not hiding it. They are so extreme that they band the Awakened along with the Servants. Also, I do not want to eradicate all Shapers. I want to break their control and chokehold on Terrestia. There's a guy on Zackary's attic that plays with crystals and is from a culture the Shapers kinda eradicated. GF5 is full of such cultures. I also want the Shapers to accept that Drakons, Drayks etc have a right to exist. And yes, I want them to treat Serviles like the Common. I do not want to wipe them out and I do not want the uncontrolled Shaping of the Takers. BUT... I don't know if the Rebellion can win WITHOUT the fanaticism of the Takers or the extend they are willing to go to Take their Free... And the Shapers should pay for the centuries of abuse and more specifically, the crimes they did in Sucia.

I have not told her to escape yet. I want to help her. The story of her parents is there since there's a quest. I also want to see what happened to her.

I am a bit lost. Similar question I had with Mutagen, which is the quickest way to get Drayks? Tuldaric?

The GF4 PC could be 5 out 9 classes BUT that doesn't mean a Warrior wasn't "geneforged" to a guardian or even a Shaper. Barzhal turned from Guardian to Shaper in GF2 (haven't found him in GF2-I).

QUESTION: If I auto-join the Awakened, will the Barzites and the Takers be auto-hostile to me, or just angry?

The game is pushing me more towards the Takers... Was Learned Pinner always so... pacifist and subservient? I have met other awakened (Blade Loyd for example) that understand what it will take to be free, to co-exist with Shapers. When I go to Medhab I am blasted day in and day out from messages that inform me that my character is keenly aware that the Shaper council would destroy that peaceful town, where kids play, crops are raised and serviles barter with dignity to the ground for the crime of existing. Turn it to dust and eradicate any mention of it. And what Learned Pinner tells my character? "You may carry news to your kind about us and they will come and purge us. So, I must convince you that we have a right to live." ?!? Pinner thinks she has to convince an apprentice (well Shanti has declared I am not an apprentice anymore) of a town's right to exist. She is practically begging for their right to exist. Somebody has to crack some Shaper heads and Pinner seems very reluctant to do so. I kinda remember she was hiding things and their true power, creating a weak, non-threatening front. I hope she does. Although a dozen Reaper turrets outside doesn't exactly send the message "We are at the mercy of the Shapers". No, from what I recall from the previous time, Pinner was too... defensive. And that came down to the rest of the Awakened too. They were too defensive, too passive. You don't win a war by not losing the war. That leads to a stalemate. All the Shapers have to do, is to keep the rebellion secret from the Common and the Serviles at large and dedicate some of their forces to keep the awakened contained. EDIT: "We can only gain peace by appealing to the mercy of the Shapers". Riiiiiight. Even the text says that Pinner is naive; this is the result of growing up without meeting Shapers. She goes out of her way to say that the Takers and the Barzites offer more power, but the Awakened is a fight for Justice. I agree. But what about Justice for the crimes the Shapers committed on the Serviles? Don't worry, Pinner. I will avenge your brothers and sisters that died in Sucia. THEN we can discuss with the Shapers. I decided to join the Awakened, but I am not happy about the leadership, just so you know.

I am trying there... I do. But no. I can't make these work yet at my essence level. I just want a Cryoa and a clawbug! But it is really not working. I was at level 6 and I couldn't spare the essence for very suboptimal creations. I went to level 7 and I could make a clawbug or cryoa but: Clawbug: My fire shaping is 7, my battle shaping with that special gear is 3. I have 3 levels for Fyoras, I have 1 level for clawbugs. It is not going to work. The math says that the Steel Clawbug is better but... I cannot afford the essence and I would need to pump it with levels to put it at a respectable level 10. Cryoa: That was the real surprise. Cryoa should be as good as Fyora, even if more expensive right? Right? Well, no. No haste. No spam-that-cone (I play on normal so Friendly fire is not an issue for me). In the end... I made another Fyora and with the extra essence that I would need to put the 2 upgrades (cone and resistance) to the Cryoa, I pumped up my Fyoras to level 12. A severe disappointment there. (Yes, I know I could have simply made a 5th fyora for the 16 essence I put to pump my 4 Fyoras to level 12). It is crazy that the Cryoa is worse than the Fyora even if you do not account for the greater essence cost. Yes, it does a little more damage. But if you factor in the haste for the Fyoras, it doesn't. Yes, Cryoa's cone is a little better. But you use it once per 3 rounds, when 4 Fyoras will reliably get -5- cones out every turn.

Really? Oh, you mean from the achievements? But it shows me different numbers. Pacifist is 0.3% Gifts not needed 0.4% (I assume that's solo? No creation - but nothing about having others join you) Emerge a legend is 0.3% Emerge a hero is 0.7% (So, 0.4% for just veteran) Emerge victorious is 1.5% (so 0.8 for just normal)

That I do find surprising. I honestly expected that people that have finished the game so early would be more veteran-difficulty types. I am also stunned that 2.3% fell for Lying Zackary's the Deceiver's lies and aligned with the Servants. Even the change of the name from loyalists / Shapers to Servants, to bring the realization of what you are closer to home, didn't make it. I am honestly surprised. Frankly, I didn't expect the Servants to be neck-to-neck with the Awakened, although it is still early days... When do you plan to update this list again, if you do? May I suggest an "update" to not delete the previous numbers so that we could compare the early-days with the longer-trends?

If your stats are from people that finished it, then I am not surprised to be honest. Dedicated players finish the game that came out just over a week ago and they probably do veteran (Torment-dedicated probably haven't finished yet. 😄). I am not even in Mehdab yet. If you give it a year, then you will see normal going more than veteran. Because it's the early days.

Melee 16? Quick action 12? OMG... what is your gear? How much damage do you deal with that monster on a single round?!

There is and there cannot be a definitive answer. Because in GF5 you can be a servile. Whatever path you take, Shaper/Lifecrafter, Agent/Infiltrator/Sorceress, etc you unlock parts of your memory that have been lost. That said, there are theories. None of the theories account for you being a servile, except the "you are the hero of GF4". Effectively, there can be no one answer. If you are a servile, it would be the servile from GF4. If you are a Shaper the options are more (you can see one in my mod ) . If you are a Guardian the options are different. If you are an agent then again, there are other options, including Shaila from GF4. And if you are a sorceress? My bet is "Emily from GF2-Infiltration". That is a theory that immediately jumped in my mind when I saw that amnesiac kid. Yes, I am aware that was not possible when GF5 was written. But it is possible NOW.

That's good news. I hope this game sells extremely well, because it is a very good game.

LoL Emily!!!! 😄🤣 She trusts... Shanti. She really thinks Shanti, an agent, would not execute her without blinking. Man, poor Emily, she has so much to learn.

Helix Ring: Sooo... when the hintbook says "kill bosses" it means "megabosses at the endgame". Noted.

Ehh... I am not sure I follow the yes, yes, no parts. What is the "no" for? Takers?

So... Drayks are barred again and fighting for their life. Was that dude there in the Original? I don't remember a vast cavern full to the brim with treasure you could not touch. Is there a way to deal with the Cryodrayk at level 6 and take his toys? I quite valiantly avoided the toughest spectres outside. If I go in combat mode and steal all of his things, would I manage to lam it? Does he go out of his way to chase you? EDIT: I changed my mind after reading his story and forcing him to turn over his crystal using My awesome Shaperness to completely break his will, taking the one thing that gives him the most comfort like a cruel monster, which reminded me why I am going Tak- I mean Awakened. And reminded me lying Zackary the Deceiver's words that it is impossible to take control over a rogue Creation. And I did it to a cryodrayk. I was sure I was a goner when I clicked that, I just wanted to see his reaction. And I found out that I could humble a proud creature that the Shapers turned their backs on. If I ever take his crystals, I will end his existence which is a greater mercy than leaving a half-mad (well, totally mad) creation of that power without its comfort blanket. Do I need that 1000-worth crystal for an artifact? That's the only way I am going to take that from this poor creation. If you go Taker can you send Wyx to the Takers? He seems their type. They will bond, I am sure. EDIT 2: I find it harder to resist going all out Taker in this version. Perhaps it is because I played Mutagen first where the Takers had very convincing arguments (although they were horrible to the other Serviles). On the other hand, I can manage to find it within myself to sabotage the worse of the Takers but not to destroy the Magus complex and set back the Awakened, shatter them. But man, I do want to go out and start killing Shapers...

Perhaps it is worth noting that in the Original GF2, I didn't manage to finish Sharon's grove. And I was playing on easy.

Roamertooth band: Gives +1 missiles and +1 quick action. Do missiles bonus increases the damage done by magic crystals? If not, does spellcraft increases the damage done by crystals?

Drakons have mental? No wonder they are auto-banned. Rots having mental resistance is a surprise though.

For something Zackary told me is impossible (regaining control of Rogues), there are pretty many rogues you can take control of. Rogues that are not actively attacking you, you can control so far (Pre-Tunnel areas). By control I don't mean "take with you" like the abandoned Thahd, but exert your will and bend the Creation to your will.

OK, can someone in the meantime post their resistances / armor? Does it stay the same or level affects it? Does the Cryora resistance buff gives 25% to all resistances?