Articulate Vlish eztaren Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Dumb question but where are the Trakovites located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 They don't have a base. If you've met Drewry, Shorass and Khyryk already, then you've heard about everything the Trakovites have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 There's a dead one in the Eastern Barrier Zone that left a diary. Both sides are hunting them down as fast as possible. Forgot Nakel in the Northern Fens that you can be hired to kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Trakov was a soali a man that had landed on sucia island he stole the secrets from the shapers now he payed it with his life. Soalies were good boat makers travelers and traders they didn't have any shaping magic. Probably his name was idealized by rebells to show how shaping is wrong. Or i could be wrong am i ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Trakov was a shoali who landed on Sucia Isle and used the ill-gotten power of the canisters to rule over the island (in a way) as a brutal tyrant.He "kidnapped" a young shaper (the player in GF1) to try and learn the secrets of the shapers.Hardly a fitting matyr for the Trakovites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Trajkov was the leader of the Sholai from Geneforge 1. His story has been passed down and no doubt changed many times, along with his name, in order to become a legendary character in the Shaper world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Oh.Thanks for correcting my mistakes! *scuttles off into some corner* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 HE is evil. Never forget that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 The longer the war drags on, the more Trajkov starts to seem like he would have been the least of all possible evils. At least he was capable of a decisive victory. All the more ironic, then, that the Trakovites want the war to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 But we should tell the trakovites the truth should we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 The Trakovites are not named after Trajkov, right? I didn't see a single reference to the guy in Geneforge 4. Plus the fact that the two have nothing in common whatsoever. I wonder why Jeff decided to make them sound so similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I think they just knew him by a different name..... Trakov or something. Drewry told his "story" to the PC if you smashed the canister he told you to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 They are indeed named named after the same person. One of them tells you his story that is very similar to the Trajkov from GF 1. Of course, over time history has been distorted and changed by inaccurate accounts. Basically, the Trakovites are following a myth, a fictional account of a man long dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Ahaha, stupid Trakovites. I'm only sorry that Trajkov has to have his name forever linked to these losers. He was a great man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Great for you surley he was a man of his word but he stole the shapers secrets and killed my shaper more than 3425 times and he let goatchesse smother him self with his power, what a rat he was! Sorry i know that i get over the line this time but i am only discribing what is on my mind after all goatchesse won't give his part of the bargen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Goatchesse/Goat's Cheese... You tell ME the difference. Anyway - what is the Trakovite agenda? I'd assume they were linked to the Rebels, but clearly this isn't the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast *i Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 In short, elimination of all shaping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 The Trakovites are willing to have a transition period to allow for people to adapt to the future world. Also all existing creations that reproduce will get to exist. So I suppose the rotgroths don't make the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Randomizer:Also all existing creations that reproduce will get to exist. The creations that can reproduce are: Ornks Serviles Thorn Bushes Battle Alphas (the latest design* can reproduce for some odd reason) Battle Betas (see above) *The 92nd Genertation 22nd design to be precise Edit:Picture Proof! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Drayks can reproduce. I'm pretty sure that Clawbugs can too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 This is iffy but in G1 there is an area of "old rogues" which we assume that they are the decendents and not 200+ year old ones. They are all vlish. So that leads to the question of how do vlish reproduce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Not to be rude but where is there proof that Drayks,Clawbugs and/or Vlish can reproduce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Drayks were Barred for a reason - they were too smart and could reproduce. Also, look at all of the Drayks in GF 2-4 ... I don't think that all were Shaped. Clawbugs probably can - look at the huge amounts of clawbugs and clawbug dens with clawbug queens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Ok the list of creatures that can reproduce is now updated.The new list of creations that can reproduce is: Ornks Serviles Thorn Bushes Battle Alphas Battle Betas Clawbugs Drayks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Schrodinger Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Eye Aphorelik in GF4 states that Gazers reproduce, but doesn't go into much detail other than "It's very biological." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'm sure I remember meeting a Mother Fyora guarding her nest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Drayks and drakons can both reproduce; Litalia in GF4 mentions that they greatly resent being shaped, and prefer to reproduce naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Some trakovites are in dark places so explore until no place on the map is left unchecked and you will find information about every bit and thing about geneforge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Re-updated list of creations that can reproduce: Ornks Serviles Thorn Bushes Battle Alphas Battle Betas Clawbugs Drayks Drakons Gazers (?) Fyoras (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 If you're going to count thorn bushes, you may as well count mines, batons and living tools as well; you can meet several people whose job is to breed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Re-re-updated list of creations that can reproduce: Ornks Serviles Thorn Bushes Mines Batons Living tools Battle Alphas & Battle Betas Clawbugs & Plated Clawbugs Drayks & Cyrodrayks Drakons & Ur-Drakons Gazers & Eyebeasts (?) Fyoras & Cyoras (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Though I have never met one that does, I would be suprised if thahds didn't reproduce. They are very similar to both Battle Alphas and Serviles, and they reproduce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 If the Trakovites got their way and shaping was outlawed, Dikiyoba doesn't think any basic creation types like fyoras or glaahks would be lost. Between old, isolated communities of rogues left over from before the no-breeding rule and the rebels (and Shapers?) shaping fertile creations to cause more problems, there are probably enough breeding specimens for survival. Experimental varieties would be lost, but not the basic models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 The Drakons would fight until the end, rather accept Trakovitism. The drayks would live as they did on Sucia Island. Battle Alphas have some intelligence, and would evolve normally and become smarter. Clawbugs would be a pests much like the Chitraches in Avernum, and Fyoras would do much the same thing. Gazers and Eyebeasts would live like the drayks, spread out over the land. They would be killed as soon as they tried to control people, but they would last for awhile. Serviles would become like normal people, and while some human-haters and and servile-haters would remain, soon the two people would mix. Ornks and living items would be much the same as before. The world would be much less dangerous, and would not be out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Humans and serviles can't reproduce together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Aeshi Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Kyrek:The Drakons would fight until the end, rather accept Trakovitism. The drayks would live as they did on Sucia Island. Battle Alphas have some intelligence, and would evolve normally and become smarter. Clawbugs would be a pests much like the Chitraches in Avernum, and Fyoras would do much the same thing. Gazers and Eyebeasts would live like the drayks, spread out over the land. They would be killed as soon as they tried to control people, but they would last for awhile. Serviles would become like normal people, and while some human-haters and and servile-haters would remain, soon the two people would mix. Ornks and living items would be much the same as before. The world would be much less dangerous, and would not be out of control. Wow.Could Trakovitism be a good thing?the world may never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 When did I say they could reproduce together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 The eyebeast in the Eye's Road in Burwood mentions that gazers and eyebeasts can reproduce but doesn't want to talk sex with a lower lifeform (you). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Sorry miss read. But if i am there could you anserw this : Since i said that serviles and humans couldn't mix did early shapers actaly made them so inhuman in apprence and so different biogeneticly that humans and servilles don't mix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 My sever is bugging or what i double posted again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice ex post slarto Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 There seem to be ample suggestions that many creations come in reproducing and non-reproducing varieties. Battle alphas are a good example. Also, we all know how easy it is to turn an individual reproducing creation into a non-reproducing one... snip! (Unless, say, vlish reproduce by casting spells or something, which is possibly even dorkier and stupider than tentacle sex.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Upon Mars. Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I think that creation at first were disgined to reprojuce. Then when the shapers had problems .... Production was too much pepole were soaked to death then slowly drowned. Say no to shaper made juce!!! My point is that shaper letting reproduce the creations made an ovewellming situation and as thing continude shapers invented disipline wands that destryoded rogues in one single shot forcing creations to step aside and obey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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