Garrulous Glaahk Eclipse Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'm curious as to if anybody has gotten them working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Exile was written long before 64-bit operating systems. The best way to play it on Windows 7 is to use an emulator like DOSBox and install it with Windows 3.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 FYI, the Exile series does not play on Windows 7 32-bit or 64-bit. (I finally broke down and got a refurbished Dell 755 w/ Win 7 on it.) DOSBOX works perfectly, but within the Win31 environment, the cursor gets a little shakey. Maybe some tweaking of the DOSBOX.conf file may improve it. BTW, I have the whole thing on a thumb drive, and did not have to install anything into the Win7 environment. Just plug it in and run DOSBOX. If I had an autorun.inf on the thumb drive, then I could launch it automatically. On my website I have the link to the VOGONS page that describes how to install the Win3.1 on DOSBOX. DOSBOX itself requires no installation; just download and unzip and it's ready to roll. The jumpy cursor bothers me somewhat. I'm going to try the virtualbox approach. This should let me install Win98 or even XP in such a way that I won't have to dual boot. Wish me luck, I'm off to crash the server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Originally Posted By: Harehunter FYI, the Exile series does not play on Windows 7 32-bit or 64-bit. I can't say for sure about Windows 7, but I know I was able to play them in 32-bit Windows Vista, which means they should work in 32-bit 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 I thought that would be the case with Win 7 as well, which is why I installed the 32-bit version. There may be some other way to fix the problem, but right now, Exile 3, which I am mapping, does not work. Here is an interesting piece, which I just found. Mayhaps I'll find an easier answer. I will post the results of my research here as soon as I can, probably tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk ixfd64 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Considering that the original Exile series is so old, I hope it won't be long before Jeff decides to release the source code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Remember when the BoE sources were released though? They were barely human-readable. It took a Herculean effort to fix them up and make them work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Finally got around to testing the compatability mode on Win7 32-bit. Exile does work OK if you set compatability to WinXP, but it's better if you set Win98 mode. On the choice of 32-bit vs 64-bit, I would not use 64-bit unless I had some application that was actually written for 64-bit and would benefit greatly in that mode. To date I know of only two reasons for 64-bit: CADD programs and Oracle database server. No doubt there are other 64-bit apps out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Also, you're limited to 4 GB of RAM (minus whatever your hardware maps out) with Win32. Win32 does support PAE, but Microsoft apparently decided not to support large amounts of RAM on desktop versions (probably because of driver compatibility issues, maybe also because there was more money in making people upgrade to 64-bit versions). (Though in all likelihood, not many people need 4+ GB of RAM.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Originally Posted By: Miramor (...maybe also because there was more money in making people upgrade to 64-bit versions). (Though in all likelihood, not many people need 4+ GB of RAM.) If you buy a new copy of Windows 7 you actually get both the 32- and 64-bit versions included in the box, so at the very least it's not Microsoft trying to grab an extra buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Wait really? I bought a copy of Windows 7 and it was 32-bit only... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Double check your invoice and make sure you didn't get ripped off. On my refurb machine, I ordered it loaded with Win 7. When I got it, it had XP loaded. I had saved my online receipt, so I had the order number and all the specs. I called Tiger Direct, the folks I had bought the machine from. They directed me to the company that does the refurbs, U.S. Micro Corp. I called them, cited the order number, got the serial # of the machine. They happily sent me the disks with the valid product sticker. It does come with both 32-bit and 64-bit. As to the 4gig memory limit, that is simply a function of 32-bits. One other limitation is a 2gig limit on file size. Most applications work fine within those limits. If you want to run a real database or intense graphical application such as CADD, then by all means grab for that 64-bit disk, although my preference for a database server is Sun Solaris 64-bit (unix). It is more robust, more stable, and far, far easier to keep your separate Oracle products separate so you don't get confused as to which environment variables you're using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 PAE allows 32-bit OSes to use more than 4 GB of RAM. Windows 32-bit desktop versions just don't support that aspect of it. ... And good gods, environment stuff on Windows NT is terrible. It's a wonderful desktop OS, but it's really not designed for software development stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 The retail box of Windows 7 comes with both versions. The OEM version is platform-specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Ah I see. Mine is the OEM version (which also has the annoying limitation of being licensed for a single machine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 was it cheaper than the retail version or did you just not know any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Both. I'd been using Linux as my main OS for quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Originally Posted By: Miramor Both. I'd been using Linux as my main OS for quite a while. In that case, the Exile games run fairly well in Wine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I couldn't get the sounds to work in Wine without the games freezing though. They're supposed to be rated Platinum for "works perfectly in Wine without configuring stuff" though. Maybe it's just my own computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Nope. Sound is indeed broken in Wine versions prior to 1.4. I don't mind though, I prefer to play with the sound off. (And I didn't buy Windows 7 just so I could play BoE! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 It doesn't work on 1.4 either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Does your distro use PulseAudio? In that case, yeah, it's still broken. Wine doesn't interact too well with Pulse. (Actually I don't think anything interacts too well with Pulse. It's given me nothing but trouble since it was introduced... Welcome to "Why Linux is not a major desktop OS," reason #255.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I have had no sound issues using Wine in OS X, even before 1.4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Exile 3 doesn't work for windows anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Tyranicus Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Originally Posted By: Captain Trenton.. Exile 3 doesn't work for windows anymore? It does not work in the 64-bit versions of Vista and 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Trenton. Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 So thats why It won't work anymore. That sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 The Exile trilogy and the shareware version of BoE are all 16-bit programs, and will not work in 64-bit Windows. They will work in 32-bit Windows XP and Vista; I'm not totally sure about 32-bit Win7 yet, I'm not done testing. If you have 64-bit Windows and want to run any of the Exile games, you'll need to run them in a simulated 16/32-bit environment using DosBox, VirtualBox, or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Harehunter Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Preliminary report: Exile 1 Version 1 runs natively on Windows 7 -32bit. How to do it 1) I am not doing an actual install, having made a good backup from the original install. All I do is copy it over to the new box. 2) Right click on the exile.exe file, and create a shortcut. 3) Right click on the shortcut, and click properties. and make it look like this. The trick is to disable the visual themes. I'll finish testing this weekend and post a more detailed page on my web site. Edit: I have successfully launched all versions of all Exile games in Compatability mode win98. XP should be fine, but I figure that since they were written to 98, may as well use that mode. Web Page to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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