Rotghroth Rhapsody Prince of Kitties Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 A rather odd question: is there anything special about the "pants" item slot? I recall that, in (IIRC) Exile 2, it was said that walking around without pants could have bad consequences. I've personally never seen it in any BoE scenario, but I was wondering if there's code anywhere that checks (or could check) whether a party member is wearing pants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 As far as I've seen, it's just flavor text. I don't remember any encounter anywhere, in the trilogy or BoE, that checks to see if you're wearing pants (or any other article of clothing, for that matter). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Thaluikhain Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 You could include one or two "pants" items specific to your scenario, and then have it check to see if it was equipped, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon The Almighty Doer of Stuff Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I think it was just a joke, meaning "bad (social) consequences". Pants are basically just another equipment slot for potential armor bonuses or enchantment, although it seems useful pants are significantly less common in Exile games than other equipment types. I know Pants of Protection are available in VoDT, and I believe other scenarios as well. Also, pants can be assigned Special Item Type flags (I think that's what they're called, it's been a while) so it's possible to check if a party member is wearing pants, but only if those pants were not brought in from another scenario. I don't know if it's ever happened though. The only pants check that I know of is the one in E3, where you place pants on a certain tile in the last dungeon to unlock a hidden town and a hidden dungeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Neptúnus Hirt Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Playing Exile III as a child, I would always make sure my party members all had pants on before braving the surface world. I was kind of disappointed when I later realized I wouldn't get run out of town if I took them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Thaluikhain Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Originally Posted By: The Almighty Doer of Stuff The only pants check that I know of is the one in E3, where you place pants on a certain tile in the last dungeon to unlock a hidden town and a hidden dungeon. Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 ...my thoughts exactly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 See the header that says "Bonus Dungeon" here: http://www.cheatbook.de/files/exile3.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Celtic Minstrel Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Next question. Did this bonus dungeon make it into Avernum 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Yes, it is town 65: Bonus Dungeon. How you get there I don't know. Possibly the same way as in Exile 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Originally Posted By: Celtic Minstrel Next question. Did this bonus dungeon make it into Avernum 3? Yes, and yes, you get there the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan cfgauss Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Originally Posted By: Neptúnus Hirt Playing Exile III as a child, I would always make sure my party members all had pants on before braving the surface world. I was kind of disappointed when I later realized I wouldn't get run out of town if I took them off. Only in the surface world? What did you think was going on in the underworld? Were they all banished for streaking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Cryolemon Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Originally Posted By: cfgauss Were they all banished for streaking? I'm guessing some of them were! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Neptúnus Hirt Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Originally Posted By: cfgauss Only in the surface world? What did you think was going on in the underworld? Were they all banished for streaking? Well, seeing as my characters started without pants (if I remember this correctly, it's been a while), I just thought that the Exile community was okay with general pantslessness. I had some funny ideas as a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 The real answer is that pants did not exist in Exile 1 and 2. It was just assumed that you wore pants, and other items of clothing. I'm not sure why Jeff changed this in Exile 3. However, since that part of the character creation code did not change, nobody starts with pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Cryolemon Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Originally Posted By: CRISIS on INFINITE SLARTIES The real answer is that pants did not exist in Exile 1 and 2. It was just assumed that you wore pants, and other items of clothing. I'm not sure why Jeff changed this in Exile 3. However, since that part of the character creation code did not change, nobody starts with pants. Perhaps this part of the character creation code could be changed!/is not entirely serious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 It isn't an entirely bad idea. Unless, of course, it would break any scenarios where initial pantlessness is used as an actual mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Thaluikhain Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 The slith and nephil graphics don't look like they are wearing anything (except the archer, who has a quiver strapped to his/her back), so pantlessness makes sense, though so does equipmentlessness in general (my custom PC graphics have armoured/clothed nephils, though). Actually...the problem with nakedness is that your primary (and sometimes some of your secondary) sexual characteristics are being displayed...how obvious is this on sliths/nephils et al? Is there an easy way to tell the gender of a slith or nephil (without asking, I mean)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora TwilightUnicorn Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I'd say, that the only way to make any difference between a male and a female humanoid, is to look at the creature's physical appearance. If it is small and hasn't large muscles, then it must a female. For example, in the Avernum -series(* the Nephil with a silvery or white fur and blue eyes seems to be a female Nephil. That's what I think, anyway. Just compare her to the other Nephils, and you see that they're far more muscular. The same goes for Sliths. There might be a slight difference of tone in the voice, as well, just as we humans have. Moreover, there might be a tiny scent, though we humans cannot detect it. *) not the first Avernum game, though. Nephils not allowed in the party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Thaluikhain Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: TwilightUnicorn I'd say, that the only way to make any difference between a male and a female humanoid, is to look at the creature's physical appearance. If it is small and hasn't large muscles, then it must a female. Well...that's assuming there is sexual dimorphism in the various other humanoids, and that it follows the same pattern as in humans. For various types of reptiles, for example, the female is the larger...that could be interesting if sliths worked that way, it would change the gender dynamic. In the games, however, there doesn't seem to be a gender dynamic, gender seems to be an almost total irrelevance for most NPCs, and is totally irrelevant for PCs. Secondly, even if the males tended to be larger than the females, there'd still be alot of overlap, with individuals being comparatively weak or strong due to genetics, diet, lifestyle and so on. Actually, now that I think of it, in the 3rd Exile game, the statuette you recover from the Vahnatai looks like it might depict a female, but you aren't sure. Possibly that's just due to the art, but maybe it's difficult for humans to tell. On the other hand, I can't exactly think of a legitimate reason why a member of one species would be all that concerned with the gender of another...unless, say, they were a slave owner looking to breed more slaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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