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Vrabel(sp) is a Cryodrayk that wanders around outside rear the west entrance of Icy End. Just walk around for a minute, and he'll come back.

Alwan and Greta count as creations, so they can't equip or carry anything.

If you have already finished the game as a rebel without Greta's assistance you don't really need her. She will add some dialogue and encounters (same as Alwan), but you could always just glance at the scripts to find her dialogue so you wouldn't have to play again.

Asking people to use better spelling/grammar is so we are able to understand and answer their questions better. Some members on this forum are not native English speakers and may have trouble reading abbreviated English; it is not the intention to upset anyone. I have not noticed you to regularly double posting (which is why I didn't comment about you doing so), but "intentional double posting" is a minor infraction in the CoC. I don't think we have scolded for doing these things.

I'd rather see Jeff put the effort into making a new game; though Nethergate could use an update, it's fine the way it is.

If you are quoting two different people it is okay to double post, but not a good thing to make a habit of. Holly should have used the edit button, as her posts were said to the group rather than specific people (and were somewhat related). It's okay to ask people politely to use the edit button instead of double posting, or to use legible spelling and grammar; if you do so in game boards it would be nice if you also contributed to the discussion or helped answer the person's question.

1. The Script function list and the Stats, skills, and abilities list might help you with this. 2. z2southenddlg.txt is a good script to work with.

Quote: Originally written by Natty: theres 1 more thing!!! i know its reeeeeeeaaaal stupid but when i talked 2 the mind in testin grounds i cudnt get through the doors! how am i suposed 2 get in? To take the first test speak with the Mind, and it will tell you to go to the northwest corner of the building to begin the test. Edit: The Servant Mind needs to be fed some nutrient liquid before it can help you, which can be found in a cabinet to the west.

Greenwood Island: -Crider has a book that teaches Create Thahd. -Testing Grounds has a book that teaches Create Thahd and another that teaches Create Artila - after completing first test. -Lair of the Creator has a canister of Create Fyora. Harmony Island: -There is a canister of Create Roamer in Peat Mine. -In the Rebel Camp you'll find canisters of Create Vlish and Create Clawbug (you'll need many living tools if you want to get them without doing the quests). -In San Ru Diwaniya will train in Create Fyora, Roamer, Thahd, Artila, and Vlish. -In Under San Ru there is a canister of Create Clawbug.

If you use the secret passage to get in you'll lose the commander's quest and the XP. You could still go get the sword and equip it (since it can't be sold), and sell the Claymore you find in the Inner Keep.

He's in the area "Dhonal's Keep" just north of the west exit.

People were asking more questions before because the FAQ/Walkthrough wasn't up yet, and hopefully people do a search to find what they need. Discussion has slowed down a bit, but that doesn't surprise me.

Try using creations to block the patrolling guards from going back there, and move in combat mode so the remaining guard doesn't see you. I do it in two trips, one to get the Drayk canister (E), and a second to get the Claymore (W)

Doesn't food just heal you a little (very little)? I carried one piece of bread because I wasn't sure if I needed it or not, but I never had any problems when I didn't carry any food at all.

Always on torment: 1. Rebel - Agent 2. Loyalist - Shaper 3. Rebel, but used all opportunities to gain more power - Agent 4. Loyalist - Guardian, it was the first time I've played through a GF game as a Guardian. 5. I was testing a cheat script that changed various things in different places, so I had to play all the way through to make sure I didn't miss anything. I've played a couple times using the challenges people have posted, but I didn't play all the way through.

Jeff could have changed GF3's plot enough to make it interesting. New creations would have been a good start, or maybe elaborating on the Sholai (or playing as one). He didn't have to use Drakons again; in GF1 the Sholai discovered the power of the Geneforge, and some of them survived and left the island. I would have much rather battled the Sholai than Drakons. I didn't like either faction, and it was an identical Taker vs. Shaper plot. I got bored half way through Dhonal's Island because I realized there was no big surprise coming; the best thing about the end of GF3 was seeing the snow.

Quote: Originally written by Venom: Actually, despite the BANNED notice, I have it on good authority that Mr. Vallium is no longer banned. Teasing like that is mean

The void and nebula are awesome! The pillars and tile go very well with the grass and trees. The stone bridge looks good too, but I liked the wooden bridge a bit more. The floating rocks and stars look great, too. I like the idea of the floating carpet arrival, but I'm not too into it being red. Thank you for sending the graphics to the Louvre

I'm using a two-button mouse (on a Mac), and the PCs move one space at a time with left or right click. I don't normally use the mouse, as find the arrow keys to be more convenient.

How to use the scripts (in the forum header): 1. Download the script you want (Downloads in forum header). 2. Find the original script with the same filename within your scripts folder. 3. Move or rename the original script, and put the downloaded script in your scripts folder. 4. Open the game and find the access point for the editor (listed in forum header). Making your own scripts is a bit more complicated. There are a few lists in the forum header that may help you. Also, look at the existing editors to see what others have done.

The first screenshot, right? Supposedly you can't take both of them past Dhonal's Island. Has anyone gotten them to the Isle of Spears without using a cheat script?

I think there was a bug that made it so Greta didn't get her second upgrade, but I don't know if it was fixed in the latest version.

If you free Agetha and the other Shapers she will send a Golem to clear out the rubble.

Greta's second upgrade gives her Essence Orbs, right?

Alwan and Greta gain experience like any creation. They gain X number of skill points per level, and can be trained like other creations (press the "?" next to their picture). They can't carry anything, and they can't equip anything. Edit: Also, a couple trainers will boost their abilities. Greta can be trained by Gretchen in Dhonal's Keep, and Alwan can be trained by Sciotino in the Inner Keep.