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Nalyd imagines that he is a Shaper Master who requires his students to take the forms of creations to prove themselves. He always uses "Learner [strange mix of random syllables]."

Unless we cheat and have an excellent strategy, in which case you're doomed.

We've already had several topics to this effect. Try using the search button. Also, use better spelling and capitalization.

Presumably, it does extra damage to undead(Ghosts). So, naturally, Nalyd's hands get burned off every time he tries to use it.

Yes, the higher your level, the less experience you get from everything. Eventually, it will decrease to either one or zero.

You get the same amount every time, don't you? Barring level adjustments.

X. He was crazy. He belonged.

Smeagol?

Or those who believe themselves to be. Remember, Hitler took steroids!

And you can always check in the little mini-window of the topic at the bottom of the posting screen.

Glaahks are quite powerful when used in concert with a Drayk. Their stunning effect is invaluable. If you can, try one Glaahk and one Drayk. They might be cheaper, too.

What kind of computers do Dikiyoba and R.R have? It might only work on the Mac or PC versions.

Carnelian. And, yes.

Oh, come on. we need more scenarios. Even bad ones. This might be a bad one, and the odds are in favor of that(It's his first scenario), but it's probably going to be better than. . . what, Shipwrecked? Even Muffin can script better than that. For once, Nalyd supports you Muffin. It's still for his own selfish needs, though.

Yes, Synergy, do continue, graphics and all. It's actually quite interesting to see other playing styles.

Don't resurrect topics unless you have something interesting or useful to add. And use proper Grammar and Spelling(Capitalized for effect).

The Drayks haven't been given any compensation because, until the Rebellion, the Shapers didn't even know there were any left! The Drayks came barreling out of nowhere in violence. If they had come in peace, offering negotiations and the like, they would probably have been received with much less open hatred by the people, and the Shapers would likely have been forced to either at least talk to the Drayks, or butcher citizens. And that's assuming that the Shapers wouldn't have accepted them peacefully at any rate.

Sorry. Nalyd was high from lack of sleep. He meant this one.

The followers of Emperor Tullegolar, a member here who is infamous for his abuse of Shaping. Nalyd owes him a bit though, because he helped Nalyd in "Are Drakons superior beings?"

Well, if Heusstess had "led the fight against them", then he would hardly be willing to put them as the aggressors, then would he? History is written by egos and perceptions.

What evidence is there that there was violence due to the spread of Shaping? The Shaper Empire has apparently been around a very long time, if the origin of Shaping isn't universally known. There's no evidence either way, as to whether Shaping spread violently or peacefully. All we have is Sucia and human nature. Human nature differs greatly, and it depends on who had Shaping to begin with. Was it some bloodthirsty tyrant, like ET, a scientist-analog(Learning for learning's sake), or a pro-Shaping Trakovite(Good of the world, helping average people). Also, who's to say that the Shapers started the war on Sucia(The only one we have direct evidence of)? There were probably religions back then, with origins of life etc., and they might have seen the ability to create life as evil, or there might have been jealous or fearful neighbors.

Who ways that Shaping spread through violence and death? The only evidence we have that anything like this ever happened is on Sucia. And that's where Shaping was supposedly discovered, so there's bound to be instability there. After Sucia burned itself out, who's to say Shaping spread on it's own? What's wrong with "The Shapers set up schools. People learned Shaping. Rebels messed it up." And Shaping costs less effort than war with humans. Diplomacy is still far superior, and Shaping is only used to minimize the casualties on the side using Shaping. If additional human casualties could be avoided, why should the Shapers spend time and essence with Shaping when talking works fine? If you'll notice, the Rebels never tried anything resembling diplomacy. They simply waited in the quiet and mostly inhospitable mountains quietly, Shaping haphazardly all the while, and threw it at the Shapers when they were discovered or thought they had a chance.

As Shaper Nalyd, Nalyd would create- 1-Fully grown clones of existing Shapers. 2-Training that dispenses with any creation limit. 3-Training that dispenses with any limited creation controlling range. 4-Diseases that harm only essence-holding reptiles. 5-A sort of mind-fungus that can eat brains and later communicate what was in them. 6-A delicious Vlish. 7-In the only lapse of anti Self-Shaping principle, a spell that turns Nalyd into a Divine Vlish. 8-Battle Omegas (Actually useful). 9-A giant, living self repairing wall. 10-A device that kills canister- or Geneforge-using humanoids. 11-Dead Trakovites. 12-Dead Rebels. 13-Dead Tullegolites.

True enough. But "Nazi" is such a convenient term. We hate it so much that we use it a lot. And don't underestimate Nalyd. The Shapers made serviles because they disliked doing menial labor. And, really, most of the serviles actually enjoy serving. If the Shapers were truly sadistic and cruel, then they wouldn't even bother to make serviles. They would, as you said, enslave existing humans. The serviles were made specifically because they didn't want to harm humans, which are currently the dominant species. Serviles were made dumb and ignorant, dependent on the Shapers. They only develop dissident beliefs when they are corrupted by the Rebels, or when they simply grew up away from the Shapers, like on Sucia. They Shape beasts for food because it is significantly easier than working with the comparatively inferior livestock currently available. And they don't Shape everything they eat. They make their creations with the capacity to breed. They make creations for war because said creations are superior to most humans and are far more expendable. If you had an easy enough alternative that involved no loss of human life and little human effort, while simultaneously greatly increasing your chances to win a potentially horrific war, could you honestly say that you wouldn't do it? They don't develop creations for trivial and decadent purposes because, first of all, they have already filled most of their needs for chores and the like with the creation of serviles, and second of all, the creation of a new life form is a complex and drawn out process. It may take years to find the correct way to Shape something. Shaping should only be reserved for necessary things, like food and war. War may not be necessary, but when it rolls around, you would want creations dying rather than humans. The Shapers aren't perfect. No-one is. The Rebels are brutal, the Awakened are foolishly optimistic, the Takers are consumed with blood-rage, the Trakovites are scared, and the Shapers are strict. But out of all those, strict seems the least evil. The Shapers had it coming to them, agreed. Their society could only last so long. But with any luck, the Rebellion will teach them something. And, failing at that, it may force them to change out of sheer necessity. Th Native Americans were enslaved because, well, it was convenient to do so. Other than their lack of immunities to disease, they were pretty much ideal slaves. It was horrible and wrong, yes. The actions of the colonists and, later, the United States were unjustified and cruel. But some of the later atrocities (Trail of Tears, Indian Removal Act) was due to the actions of President Jackson and, partially, a mostly oligarchic and plantation owning Congress. As for Cuba, Nalyd isn't really knowledgable in that particular area of the world. Someone else will have to pick up there.

And you can't join more than one sect at the same time.