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Owenrus: Yes. I agree with 90% of what you said in post 203. But you forget that most of his speeches from GF3 (those I heard) to GF5 are about the wisdom of the Shaper law and how deviating from it causes all hell break lose. And then he breaks Shaper law in all games. And I would say that in GF4, his deviation significanly helps the Unbound to be created because in the canon ending... Alwan loses and Unbound are created. Things would have been different if an exceptionally powerful Life-crafter (the player) has been executed as Shaper Law dictated, the moment he stepped in Dilhame. Oh, and Khyric the Trakovite is as much a Shaper as Toroth the Drayk Blxz kills (Haven't watched the episodes, just going from the titles). He certainly is not one of the sane shapers. He's an ex-Shaper. Anyway, you go very well over the reasons I respect Alwan. But in the end, he was an enemy. I wish all the Shapers were as honorable but like all of them, I HAD to stop their evil empire. I also 100% agree that the worst in the region are the Drakons, not the Shapers. They are so much different in goals than the sane Rebels that I (at least in my mind) don't count them as the same faction. To me it is Shapers, rebels, Drakons. Not Shapers, rebels. Blxz: Then you have your answer... But please, do me a favor and do Trakovites too after you finish with Alwan.

Remove the spoiler please for Blxz's eyes (since that actual spoiler may influence him to pick or avoid certain factions, it would for me), but what you said in the spoiler APPEARS to be correct. To a degree. Alwan not following the rules he blindly worships (I don't recall him anywhere saying he doesn't like them) makes him a pragmatist\Hypocrite. He does burn down geneforged people with abandon, just not all of them. I remind you that ALL life-crafters human, Serviles or Drakons are geneforged and Alwan is after all of them. Sure, he clearly doesn't call you a disgusting freak. But he is a fanatic that prefers the whole world to burn than Shaper Law to lose omnipotency. Every other end except the one you mention proves it. For Miranda, I agree. Shanti I never met (I think she's GF2) and Khyric I don't remember or haven't met.

Episode 54 Just in case, I won't mention exactly what it was, but you made a very accurate prediction about something there that I haven't figured at the time while it became very handy later on. Did you read any of my spoilers about Dilame in other threads? Cause I kinda have been pretty heavily mentioning it before figuring out there are people that haven't played the last game. As a note, I disagree that Alwan was one of the most reasonable Shapers. He was a fanatic that, if the game had interest in that stuff, would have your Drayks killed the moment you stepped in Dilame. He is a patriot, brave and he is useful. But fanaticism is never good and while Alwan is not dismissive on the power of Creations, he's blind as to how the Shaper Law he worships brought and empowered the rebellion. Astoria on the other hand, can discern defeat when it looks her in the face and is willing to do what it takes to stop the war and possible total annihilation of the Shapers. Like treating servilles with the respect they deserve. Alwan on the other hand, like the hardcore fanatic he is, prefers to never surrender even if it dooms everyone including the order he so much loves instead of deviating from the frought with mistakes path that Shapers of the past have set upon. And a funny thing: "If you obey our laws, you have no problem with me" said the Shaper that broke and keeps breaking Shaper laws to win the war to the creature-that-should-not-exist according to those laws that has 3 forbidden creations trailing him. I laughed there... Don't get me wrong, I respect Alwan (although I disagree with him) but his insistence on worshipping Shaper law by allowing exceptions to it seems funny. Oh, and full disclosure here: I ratted out the whole thing about Gazaki Uss to Alwan, even though I had enough leadership to lie. When you go there you'll understand why I was annoyed with the Drakons even though I support the rebels. And I'm not the only one in the Rebellion that has been fed up with them. I remind you in GF4, the Cryo-drayk rebellion against the Drakons. CLARIFICATION: Saying "I want to help" doesn't put you in a faction. You have to swear an oath. They clearly state that if you agree, you would join their faction. CLARIFICATION2: Burning Kyshaak's don't hold even for one area; they hold together for a few rounds. And then they explode dealing lots of damage. They were very useful to me as suicide troops with their huge health. I would sit in the eeeedge of a zone, make one and send it towards my enemies. They would hack it appart and then it would blow up. Good for softening up enemies.

Keep working on the geneforge Blxz! Don't get distructed. Owenrus is already making Fyoras that can't breathe fire and starts writing ethics about not creating creatures too big for him to control safely and how cloned-humans-with-big-noses he will eventually make will have to serve him for eternity. They will need your geneforge.

Yeah, don't make one and lead it to your enemies. Can't say it didn't work. But it was a bad thing to do. Also, perhaps with Blxz's geneforge you COULD give yourself magic and power to make sure the bigger lizard won't kill you.

Since the Unbound Purgation was worth some effort: http://imgur.com/gallery/AkmI4Vf/new

So... your plan is to make a fyora. I find Blxz's ambitions to create a geneforge more... wait. You plan to spend years and years to learn slowly how to make a small lizard, understanding the procedure, the risks etc. Blxz is creating a geneforge to bypass all that. Where have I heard that kind of disagreement? Owenrus: DO NOT enslave the clones-of-humans-with-big-noses you'll eventually make! NOTHING would have happened if the Shapers were Astoria-like from their early days. No rebellion. No destruction. No Unbound. No Purity Agent.

Episode 52: I had problems listening to you in this one. You probably have forgot about this, but in min 7, I see you removed your pants and are now more vulnerable to cold. Ironically realistic. The battle with the Eyebeast there was one of the most difficult for me. Episode 53: I will say it just cause it's funny enough to require being said: You shouldn't be fighting Cryoras without your pants on.

Everyone that plays these games will appreciate your efforts to create a geneforge. Just make sure to write on the pool "should not be used to make Unbound" and on the other side "Trakjov, hands off!"

The golems are about as difficult as the Unbound but they are not low-level to miss my high level creations. On the other hand, they don't do as massive damage to cleave through low-level creations in one hit.

Blxz, welcome to the club of Justice. Here's your member's card:

Well, the problem with Shaping Unbound is that you need Akari Blaze's will to keep them in line, for a time. With severe effort and concentration. And Akari wasn't fighting while he was driving them through Burnwood; when it was time to fight, they just released the Unbound.

FIIIINAAAAALYYY! ! ! Of course, I had to watch the fight even if it's waaaaaay ahead of where I am in the story. I've seen poor Blxz suffering too much to leave this for later. You can hear Blxz doubtful that it goes well... a kind of "It's too good to be true!" attitude. As if expecting the Unbound to suddenly pop a message of "and then, the creature heals!" or something. Believe it... You just KILLED AN UNBOUND! PS. It didn't happen in a short amount of time; it happened when you upgraded from creations with 150 health to creations with 800 health. Loved your description of post-Unbound Ephoria Blxz. I was like: "Phewwww... now that I know I am on the top 15 most powerful creatures in Terrestia, I can get on with the game". You now know, deeply in your heart that there are two kinds of computer gamers: Those that have killed an Unbound and those that have not. Blxz, do you want to have a reaaaaaaally good self-back pat? Watch episode 34. Jump back in time. Relive it. See the horror. The nightmare you now woke out of! About the "20 XP for an Unbound " part: Yeah, that's probably because they're not very high level, but just powerful. So, when your creations get to 35 level and you have dex artifacts on, Unbound won't even be able to hit them. They will miss 80% of the time. At which time, you would find a lot more enemies that do more damage than Unbound. Unbound and the Patchworks: What did I do: I got a Fyora to get the attention of the Unbound before I went to fight the Patchworks. I was a Shaper, not life-crafter. Expendable creations are just that.

That's unfortunate. She goes from fanatically killing rogues to spawning rogue infestations. I also tend to gravitate towards the "OK, poor Serviles. What have I done! Murdering sentient creatures on the orders of a distant council! What have I d... Wait... wait! Canisters allow me to short-circuit years of training, research and jumping through hoops!?Powwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeerzzzzzzzzzz! Yeah, I'll align with you. DEATH TO OUR ENEMIES!" And the Cannister abuse did the trick and she became a mass murderer that tells people. "Yeah, I made the monsters that killed your friends. No, I won't stop. I'll transform you to something that can fight them back, forever soiling your chances to be pardoned by Shapers " That's cause she's bat-crazy...

Question: Please avoid major spoilers in answering. Do we actually learn why Litalia went bat-crazy in GF3? She says some things in GF4 and GF5, but they are few and they don't really add up. In the early stages of GF3, she says a few things about the tyranny of the Shapers etc etc, but did she really started the rebellion to free the serviles she had no trouble supressing before? Really? Greta according to what she says balked at the treatment of Serviles from the very beginning and was kicked out. Not that Litalia is not insane enough for me to believe she had that sudden change of heart and decided to set fires to Terrestia to save the Serviles, but ... it seems there would be something more there*. More precicely: Does she clear, convincingly why she became so hateful of the Shapers? Aside of "And then as I was wiping Drakons out of existence, Ghaldring convinced me to flip sides." One of the reasons I play GF3 is to find out what drove Litalia to flip sides and go against everything she stood for with a flamethrower. To listen to her explaining. *That's GF5 spoilers here: There are some comments she makes in GF5, that make me think Litalia was having very weird feelings about Ghaldring. I wouldn't call them "love" but more like obsession\devotion\forbidden-love complex.

I just hope it will be updated sooner or later with the better game mechanics of the later games.

Wait what? Servilles form long-term relationships? Is that in GF1 only and the isolated for centuries servilles or it's everywhere? Cause I haven't seen a Serville in 3 games talking about his or her mate. Which, with Unbound, Shaper armies, Rebels, diseases etc ravaging the land should have made an appearance. Serville families breaking up by the rebellion as some join and others are transferred would be interesting quest.

Oh, no. Not that kind of hero. Not the celebrated kind. You die reviled by many and inglorious, but some people think that you did a good thing.

Since nearly none of the serviles I've met in GF3-5 are actually directly under Shaper control... wouldn't it make them all rogue creations that just choose to follow the orders of Shapers? And yet, there are instances that Serviles that have been loyal, "awaken" and become "free-willed" according to the text and the perception of Shapers\Serviles\Rebels. Which to be sincere, in most cases seems to be the case of "I decided to stop following orders!" rather than "HA! The supernatural control over my mind is broken!" case. However... there are strange and rare instances when Shapers take control of Serviles and at one point Moseh (GF4) absorbs some Serviles. However, those exceptions could have different explanations. Like Shapers brainwashing and conditioning the weak (and independent) mind of Serviles as they could have done with humans. Or Moseh using magic and the weird machine the Serviles are connected to feed on them implying he could use that on others. What do you think?

Yeap, but you die a hero!

Best ending from the 3 I've seen in GF4...

" I think real people get more tired of war and instability much faster than in the games. " I think real people would get more tired of war way faster if they had to face Unbound...

Yeap. He wasn't giving me the quest, stuff like "stay here and help the infiltrators" while I've done the quests for most of them. I had to go on.

Well, she didn't for me. And Alwan in Porypha doesn't give me the quest to go on or anything, although I gave them Monarch's papers. I'm quite sure the rebels can turn against you, aside of Greta's speech. It is pointless to have several rebel places guarded heavily if you're not supposed to fight those under any circumstances.

Well, when I gave the papers to the Shapers and read Greta's speech... I loaded.