Kyshakk Koan Questionmarks. Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Yes indded,the game was worth $28 i just ended the game as a rebel (using canisters) I cannot help using them... I became a high ranked guy,and the unbound creations did some...Things,time to go pro shaper on this next story,but i have a question,and be real about it which is right? I think the rebels are right,the shapers think they own everything,treat their creations however,but rebels treat theirs with respect and as if they are another living thing. tell me what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 The drakons (the Rebellion) treat their creations just as poorly as the Shapers do. The Shapers only want to keep the world from falling into the chaos and anarchy that it would be in under the Rebellion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Seneschal Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Spoilers . . . Honestly, this has to have been my favorite ending to date. I was a dedicated rebel, who in the end couldn't bring myself to consign the world to fire and mayhem for the sake of a betrayed set of principles. I destroyed the incubating unbound, turned myself over to the shapers and was executed for my part in saving the world. Tragic and beautiful. Seneschal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 If you don't use canisters, it's actually possible to betray the Rebellion at the very end and still survive. Admittedly, you still end up exiled to the Forsaken Lands for life, but at least it's something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Questionmarks. Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 In the other ending,i accidetntally messed up the unbound,and then i was put in the Northforge jail cells...i think i died in there,and people were saying what i did was a good thing... Geneforge is crazy,i love this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 GF4 has some great endings. I confess I messed with the sdfs so I could see them all without having to repeat large chunks of the game immediately (obviously I will play through again but not like the day after I finished). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Acidic Helixbolt Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 If you'd accept a Trakovite point of view from a heavily mutated creation, I'd appreciate it. Shaping is doing harm, to some merely by the fact of it's existence. Like those farmers hateful for not being given new corn species... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Originally by Acidic Helixbolt: Quote: Shaping is doing harm, to some merely by the fact of it's existence. Like those farmers hateful for not being given new corn species... They wouldn't have been any less upset if shaping didn't exist. It was a famine and they were starving to death. They would have been begging for food and equally upset if they didn't get any (or if it came by way of a merchant charging prices too expensive for most of them to afford). Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Acidic Helixbolt:Shaping is doing harm, to some merely by the fact of it's existence. Like those farmers hateful for not being given new corn species... By that reasoning nobody should ever have any tools but their own two hands so that they can't be upset due to lack of things that would make their lives and work easier. I don't buy it. —Alorael, who uses that corn to justify supporting the Shapers. Yes, shaping is used for evil. The Shapers use it to exert control and the Rebels use it to wreak widespread destruction. Without a war, though, it can be used to protect (armies aren't inherently evil) and it can be used to produce ornks, modified crops, tools, and other beneficial advances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Questionmarks. Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 Well,i'm going to try and see the ending of a shaper using canisters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Dark Mage Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I think that you can't call a Shaper to to the player that betrays the rebellion, it's maybe just that, a rebel traitor...Because shapers hate you, the rebellion will hate one day, and you are forced to be an infiltrator, not a so openly shaper like in G3. And I think that shapers are wrong, but Shaping itself is allright, it can help people, but it's the use that people give to it what is dangerous. A weapon can kill, but also protect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Questionmarks. Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 A stupid ending for pro-shaper with canisters... Not worth mentioning.f Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I still resent that everyone/thing asumes that if you join the Shapers, it is for self-preservation/rewards. I stand on firm moral ground as I assist the Shapers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Exactly! I didn't do it for money, either. I did it because I wanted to smash everything that slimey creation Ghaldring ever stood for. I did it to see the look on Greta's face when I stuck the sword in her treasonous back. But above all, I did it in the name of peace. And order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Seneschal Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Retlaw May:I still resent that everyone/thing asumes that if you join the Shapers, it is for self-preservation/rewards. I stand on firm moral ground as I assist the Shapers. I agree! Once Pandora's box is opened, there are only two alternatives. The reckless, uncontrolled use of that power or the controlled and responsible application of the same. The only thing worse than the rebels are the Trakovites - no amount of wishful thinking will put the misery and misfortune back in the box because there will always be somebody willing to abuse power for their own ends. Support your Shapers - it's the ONLY moral decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 To be fair, the Shaper ending didn't imply (at least to me) that the PC did it for personal gain. Certainly, pretty much every character in the game, both Shaper and rebel, thought you were in it to save your own skin, but that's to be expected when you're working as a double agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Questionmarks. Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 I joined shapers to get access to every creation...in other words,power. Also better equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Given the choice between releasing the unbound, or joining the Shapers, for me the Shapers win on moral grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Leftover Sauerkraut Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 What is the Trakovite ending? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Micawber Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Basically it's what Khyrryk recommends: you fix things so that 1 lot of unbound is made (allowing the rebels to halt the shaper advance) but the machinery is ruined after that 1 time so they can never make any more (so they can't advance either). The result is a stalemate with the shapers controlling western terrestria and the rebels controlling eastern terrestria. People realise what a lucky escape they had from the unbound and start to question the wisdom of shaping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Questionmarks. Posted March 6, 2007 Author Share Posted March 6, 2007 I would love it if your character could actually crate his own unbound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Universe Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 The game wouldn't be balanced then. It'd be too easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Synergy Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 The game IS too easy. -S- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Questionmarks. Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 Not the actual "unbound" i mean a species of unbound...like Unbound Rotghroth Unbound Winbolt Or even better,a longer game to put the strongest creations to use,and maybe even make your own "experimental" creations,like the ones Sharon has,and the experimental Rotghroth that Drayk has in that shaping room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Emperor Tullegolar Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 Seeing as the whole point of being an Unbound is to be unbound, it just wouldn't make sense if you could shape them. Their whole purpose in life is to be an uncontrollable chaos machine. Besides, they look stupid anyway, ur-drakons are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Questionmarks. Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 They do look a bit fruity...color-wise,not the other way...I'd have to say the unbound are better,they have more powerful attacks,that energy blast that comes every 3 turns or so does about 300+ damage when it hits,And the ability to create your own rogues would be nice,you can make your own area,your houses and shaper laboratories...hmm,i'm starting the think of Geneforge 5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 An Geneforge-style RTS? Why, that's exactly what The Doctor would live for. Too bad it won't happen. Maybe for Blades of Geneforge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila zergswarm13 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 im also an rts fan, rts geneforge? helll yea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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