Tenderfoot Thahd Purry Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 Hi Folks Having a blast with Avernum 5, although I should be writing my essays. Anyway, I am in Azure Gallery and am exploring the Soultaker Pit. I have a problem. You see, I have killed everything in the pit, acquired the two keys off the two nasty guys and collected all of the clues for the puzzle that apparently awaits inside the central chamber. Oh and one of my guys is dead. However, I am stuck outside the central chamber where the soultaker possesses me and keeps summoning skeletal warriors. I killed the skeletal warriors for the better part of 20 minutes but they don't seem to want to stop coming and I am beginning to think that they won't stop coming and that I am missing something... That leads me to my questions: 1. Do the skeletal warriors actually ever stop appearing? and if they don't 2. How do I get into the central chamber of the pit or what am I doing wrong/what am I missing. Thanks for the help IndyFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 This is a tricky one so if you have a save before entering the central chamber where you get possessed then go back to town using the egress to raise your party. You are supposed to have a member of your party get possessed and then attack him/her to damage him/her. You have to also keep healing your party because possession changes every few rounds. After Soultaker takes enough damage in possessed bodies, he will summon vengeful shades. At this point the skeletal warriors stop being replaced. I found it helps to summon 2 minor creations to keep the possessed party member and/or shades busy. Switch to the least damaging weapons so you don't lose a party member during the fights. If you have divine restoration spell or some other regeneration it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Purry Posted November 17, 2007 Author Share Posted November 17, 2007 Hi Folks Thanks for the info. I can honestly say, I never would have thought of doing that. Cheers. IndyFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 17, 2007 Share Posted November 17, 2007 During beta testing I spent two hours using unshackle mind to kick Soultaker out while fighting an endless stream of skeletal warriors. Jeff decided to make it slightly clearer when others had the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Skippy the bush kangaroo Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Randomizer:This is a tricky one… That would have to be the understatement of the year. This is the hardest fight in the game. I also spent ages using unshackle mind and not getting anywhere. After that I didn't work out that you need to equip sticks (or equivalent) so spent a lot of time killing myself/being killed. I still haven't done this fight to completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Khoth Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 I think the balance of some things was rather different when I did it, but my strategy was to have only one PC alive for that fight, thereby skipping the charming portion of the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 You need return life scroll or spell to go onto the next portion of the fight and that can be tricky to time with just one character. You rarely can make it through with just one character. At least since Jeff reduced the summoned creatures to 2. Jeff didn't like my army of shades pounding away at his undead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Men are from Slars Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Wait, does that mean that a singleton can't complete the fight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Purry Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 Hi Folks For those having trouble, here are some hints/suggestions on the battle with the Mindtaker. WARNING SPOILER!!!! > > > > > 1. When he does the skels and mind possession bit, beat up the first two skels down to being nearly dead, but don't kill them. This way you will avoid the unlimited respawning of more skeletons. Try to avoid hitting your mages/priest when they get possessed and hurt the Mindtaker by having one of your fighters beat up the other when they get possessed. After about 200-300 damage has been done the Mindtaker will relinquish his hold on your minds and the skels will stop coming. Healing your possessed guys as you beat them up does not hinder your effort to hurt the Mindtaker so make sure you keep their health up. 2. The next thing he will do is retreat and split off some vengeful shades. Compared to some of the stuff you had to fight in his lair to get this far these guys are kinda weak. I found the easiest way to get rid of these guys was to haste my spell casting guys and use a combination of divine fire/fireblast/lightning on them. You can kill the skels here too if you have not done so already and they won't respawn. 3. Now the Mindtaker will come himself and try to take you out. He is pretty nasty but as long as your guys all have 100+ health you should not have too much trouble. Beat him up with your fighters and blast him with the firebolt spell or dispel undead spell. He has about 1000 health I'd say, but he will be dead before your know it. 4. Once he is dead you will be allowed to try and figure out the puzzle in the central chamber. I won't give this away but I will say that the prize is more than worth the effort. Cheers! IndyFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Compound Tyr Hamsubstantiation:Wait, does that mean that a singleton can't complete the fight? A singleton, according to Jeff, automatically bypasses the possession part of the fight. At this point you are facing 2 skeletal warriors and 8 vengeful shades. If you retreat to the entrance you can reduce the number of foes that can attack you so you don't get swarmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora vanedor Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Quote: Originally written by Randomizer:This is a tricky one so if you have a save before entering the central chamber where you get possessed then go back to town using the egress to raise your party. Well, seems like I made the mistake to go down this pit... obviously, my character is way too low level for the most difficult fights of this place. How can I actually leave this place without reloading back up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Use the Editor, type Shift + D, this brings up the Editor. Then type "backtostart" and hit Enter, leave out the quotation marks. This takes you back to Blackchasm Outpost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Wind Wolf Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 One of the few times always playing a singleton is to my advantage. It is a nasty fight but without the possessions not nearly the problem it could have been. WW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora vanedor Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Quote: Originally written by Ishad Nha:Use the Editor, type Shift + D, this brings up the Editor. Then type "backtostart" and hit Enter, leave out the quotation marks. This takes you back to Blackchasm Outpost. Thanks... but actually, I was looking for a way to do it without cheating... and I'm glad, I finally found it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Bhima Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 So, this is going to be a digression. How do I get to the soultaker pit? It doesn't seem to be a simple secret door from the honeycomb area in the Azure Gallery (I've killed the shade and it's lackeys in the honeycomb), and so I guessed that it was a mission from an NPC. However, I'm almost to what seems like the end, having done all but the Nasty Nashazzar tribute mission in Melanchion's lands, and have exposed the bottom corner of the world map (what I presume is Dorikas' Digs). I don't really want to end the game quite yet (*whine*), and I'm REALLY going to need some level-ups before I can even think about beating Nasty Nash, much less Dorikas. I also would like to clear out Gladwell's keep, and I heard you could access it from the Soultaker area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 It's pretty simple. From the place where you fought the shade, go east to reach the Soultaker's Pit, or north to reach Gladwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 From the area below the Barrens there is a place with several ladders. One ladder goes to a tunnel heading north that has a secret entrance to Gladwell and a one way pit to Soultaker's Pit (remember to bring some light). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 dorikas is easy when compared to some other monsters. the pit requires well armed and shielded party and bit luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasoned Roamer Bhima Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 So uh, I think I know the answer to this one, but well, I never accepted Gladwells Gass, so will I never get into the shadow-key rooms? Silly sad me. I didn't like the sound of "geas" when I first heard it, but maybe I should have taken it! Anyway I can "fake" those silly doors into opening? I don't think I'll be achieving 90 tool use any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yeah, the only way to get into those rooms is to take the geas. If it's any consolation, you were right to be suspicious of Gladwell's motives. Some of the rewards are very good, especially for how early in the game you can potentially get them, but they cut you off from other rewards later in the game that are almost as good and don't require you to do quite so many bad things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 i think no1 figured how to get those keys w/o geas and 90 tool use isn't that possible. game doesn't tell what gladwell does/did with all those items (world domination prolly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 see if you can kill the slith shade and then get his key which opens a door with a staircase up marked as egress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted July 18, 2009 Share Posted July 18, 2009 Originally Posted By: avatar42 see if you can kill the slith shade and then get his key which opens a door with a staircase up marked as egress This isn't a key that will work in Gladwell's area which was the question about shadow doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Erebus the Black Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 don't think so, never tried it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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