Fledgling Fyora James9423 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1) So when making creations upgrading strength, magical skill or endurance all increase the creation's active ability damage by the same amount which is really odd because those upgrades are supposed to do different things 2) When using spells like bless and protection, when I hover over the buff on myself or my creation it says I only have a 10% bonus, but when casting the spell it's saying I should be getting 40%+ 3) I also found an item that says it increases creations intelligence - but creations don't even have intelligence as a stat? I'm using version 1.0.2b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, James9423 said: 1) So when making creations upgrading strength, magical skill or endurance all increase the creation's active ability damage by the same amount which is really odd because those upgrades are supposed to do different things Depending on the creation, the strength or magical upgrade will improve the melee and/or range attack. All of them will improve the creations level which increases all the abilities equally. It is best to increase the entire row of five to maximize your creation so it can do more damage and have more health so it doesn't go rogue as often. Welcome to Spiderweb Software. Please leave your sanity at the door. Sanity is highly over rated. Quote 3) I also found an item that says it increases creations intelligence - but creations don't even have intelligence as a stat? This is probably a holdover from the original game. But intelligence should reduce the chance of a creation getting hit with mental effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora James9423 Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 (edited) Ah I see, that helps it make a bit more sense if the stats are leveling them up causing everything to increase It still seems a bit odd though. Let's take Thads for example, increasing strength by 1 increases the damage of their Thad punch by the same amount as increasing endurance by 1 - but strength is supposed to increase physical damage by 5% in addition to leveling up the Thad - so strength should be increasing the damage by more than endurance even if endurance is leveling up the Thad, right? This odd behaviour around damage and stats seems to be there for all creation types I'm guessing the blessings improve when you increase their level even if the tooltip when you mouse over on the character buff icon is stuck saying 10%? Edited September 11, 2021 by James9423 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan googoogjoob Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 1 hour ago, James9423 said: It still seems a bit odd though. Let's take Thads for example, increasing strength by 1 increases the damage of their Thad punch by the same amount as increasing endurance by 1 - but strength is supposed to increase physical damage by 5% in addition to leveling up the Thad - so strength should be increasing the damage by more than endurance even if endurance is leveling up the Thad, right? It does. The tooltip showing how much damage an ability causes shows the base range of the ability's damage, which is determined by the Creation's level, and then it shows a percent modifier (eg, "+15%") based on the relevant stat. The percent modifier is not factored in to the numbers the tooltip shows, just shown after the base range, which is what's confusing here. Increasing any stat will raise the Creation's level, and thus increase the damage its skills do, but only increasing the relevant stat (Strength, Dexterity, or Magical Skill, depending on the attack type) increases that percent multiplier. Ess-Eschas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall alhoon Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Randomizer said: This is probably a holdover from the original game. But intelligence should reduce the chance of a creation getting hit with mental effects. Wait, what? Intelligence/control/whatever is a thing still? Can I add it somewhere so I can finally get my beauties to insane high levels without them turning on me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Mechalibur Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 If an item boosts creation "Intelligence," it's actually just boosting their magic skill. You can confirm by checking their stats before and after equipping the item. It has nothing to do with control level. alhoon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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