Curious Artila MandatorySuicide Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 How, or why is it locked? whats the deal, the skinny, the 411, did I somehow unknowingly do it.........doubtful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Niemand Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 It consisted of nonsense. Arguably, you had something you were trying to say, but your method of saying it prompted a less than serious reaction from others. As a result, Dikiyoba locked it in order to prevent the further propagation of spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila MandatorySuicide Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 alright, so then the people who derailed my thread are the fault of this....... i'll remember that...., on a less vindictive note, thanks for the info! =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Enraged Slith Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 You got something to say, punk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 How shall I put this? This is a sort of upscale board. We have pretensions. Specifically, we pretent to proper grammar, sometimes even to proper spelling. Some of the most uptight among us go so far as to affect fancy punctuation; you'll have to figure out for yourself which people those are, and avoid their evil blight. So far nobody consistently uses footnotes*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 sot don't give people ideas for new gimmicks, the old ones are bad enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila MandatorySuicide Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity How shall I put this? This is a sort of upscale board. We have pretensions. Specifically, we pretent to proper grammar, sometimes even to proper spelling. Some of the most uptight among us go so far as to affect fancy punctuation; you'll have to figure out for yourself which people those are, and avoid their evil blight. So far nobody consistently uses footnotes*. yea, trolls come in all shapes in sizes, anyone who nit picks on grammar or spelling though, well, maybe they should spend a little less time on the board... lol seriously though 2 hel wif al nitpikas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity How shall I put this? This is a sort of upscale board. We have pretensions. Specifically, we pretent to proper grammar, sometimes even to proper spelling. Some of the most uptight among us go so far as to affect fancy punctuation; you'll have to figure out for yourself which people those are, and avoid their evil blight. So far nobody consistently uses footnotes*. I totally would, but there isn't that funky little dagger thing you use after ** for more footnotes as a key on the keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I can't tell if that's brilliant troll-baiting or wandering blithely into the trolls' den. —Alorael, who thinks maybe people who hate grammar shouldn't go pester a board based around grammar rather than some other common ground, like fun computer games! Yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 @OP: Sure, but it's like this. You go to college, you write a mountain of term papers, you get a job, you have to write memos or manuals or amicus curiae briefs or whatever. None of that stuff gets far unless it's properly written. What they don't warn you about is, after a while it gets to be a habit. Soon your fingers just won't type 'lol' without shaking, and it takes real effort not to at least put periods between the letters. (Single quotes help.) And it's sad and unfair, but if you see something like '2 hel wif al nitpikas', you just can't help thinking, "Ah, a twelve-year-old." So that's the reaction, I'm afraid. Pure prejudice, but you see how people get that way. @Dantius: You could try writing '^\dagger'. There's also '^\ddagger', but you might need to accumulate more strakh before you can get away with that. @Lilith: D'oh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Originally Posted By: Dantius I totally would, but there isn't that funky little dagger thing you use after ** for more footnotes as a key on the keyboard. alt-0134 (on the numeric keypad with Num Lock on) for a single dagger, alt-0135 for a double dagger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity Sure, but it's like this. You go to college, you write a mountain of term papers, you get a job, you have to write memos or manuals or amicus curiae briefs or whatever. None of that stuff gets far unless it's properly written. What they don't warn you about is, after a while it gets to be a habit. Soon your fingers just won't type 'lol' without shaking, and it takes real effort not to at least put periods between the letters. (Single quotes help.) And it's sad and unfair, but if you see something like '2 hel wif al nitpikas', you just can't help thinking, "Ah, a twelve-year-old." So that's the reaction, I'm afraid. Pure prejudice, but you see how people get that way. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I read a book on handwriting analysis once, which explained how the shape of your cursive capitals told volumes about your character and prospects. It also suggested that it could work in reverse, and that you could change your personality by changing your handwriting. It warned, however, that most attempts along these lines were dangerous, and should not be performed without expert supervision. But it did identify one harmless exercise, where you signed your name a hundred times each day, underlining each signature, and following each one with the words 'self reliant', also underlined. It was supposed to make you more self reliant. I was skeptical even at the time I read the book. I think I was twelve. But maybe it's true, and if so, I guess we could all youngen up by posting lollery. Though it might be dangerous. In answer to Suicide's original thread suggestion: yes, up to a point it can be fun to run amok in a Spiderweb game with a god character. I did it at the end of my aborted torment singleton game in A6, and it was great. But I can't see doing it for a whole game. It'd get boring fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk nikki. Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Aw man, this thread's title made me think we were getting a goodbye post. I was sorely disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity it takes real effort not to at least put periods between the letters. (Single quotes help.) Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity not to at least put(Single quotes help.) Infin/ itive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Master1 Infin/ itive i didn't know we were speaking latin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 seriously if you honestly think "to go boldly where no man has gone before" sounds better than the alternative you should probably not tell anyone how to write anything ever again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: MandatorySuicide nitpikas Are those like really teeny-tiny pikas, or special pikas that make a living grooming other animals, or what? Originally Posted By: Alorael I can't tell if that's brilliant troll-baiting or wandering blithely into the trolls' den. Dikiyoba thinks his PDN is well chosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dintiradan Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Nikki. Aw man, this thread's title made me think we were getting a goodbye post. I thought the same thing at first, except for me it was the combination of the thread title and the name 'MandatorySuicide'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity I read a book on handwriting analysis once, which explained how the shape of your cursive capitals told volumes about your character and prospects. [...] I was skeptical even at the time I read the book. I think I was twelve. But maybe it's true, and if so, I guess we could all youngen up by posting lollery. Though it might be dangerous. I dunno, I think that I can tell a lot about a person by looking at their cursive. For instance, that they still write in cursive. Seriously, who writes in cursive beyond the dozenish letters required to sign your name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Ephesos Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: SoT But it did identify one harmless exercise, where you signed your name a hundred times each day, underlining each signature, and following each one with the words 'self reliant', also underlined. It was supposed to make you more self reliant. I find this inexplicably hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Kelandon Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lilith seriously if you honestly think "to go boldly where no man has gone before" sounds better than the alternative you should probably not tell anyone how to write anything ever again Face it: you love meter. Especially iambs. Oh, sweet iambs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 iamb what iamb and that's all that iamb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 i am bic pentameter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila MandatorySuicide Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Student of Trinity @OP: Sure, but it's like this. You go to college, you write a mountain of term papers, you get a job, you have to write memos or manuals or amicus curiae briefs or whatever. None of that stuff gets far unless it's properly written. What they don't warn you about is, after a while it gets to be a habit. Soon your fingers just won't type 'lol' without shaking, and it takes real effort not to at least put periods between the letters. (Single quotes help.) And it's sad and unfair, but if you see something like '2 hel wif al nitpikas', you just can't help thinking, "Ah, a twelve-year-old." So that's the reaction, I'm afraid. Pure prejudice, but you see how people get that way. @Dantius: You could try writing '^\dagger'. There's also '^\ddagger', but you might need to accumulate more strakh before you can get away with that. @Lilith: D'oh! hmm, sorry dude but thats just bs. no matter how i type online or via text, when i have to put something on paper and it needs to be official i have no problem distinguishing between the two, maybe im brilliant, or maybe youre not lol. and as to the reaction that im 12 because i said to hell with people who nit pick spelling and grammar in a way that was obviously sarcastic, well again id have to point to a lack of intelligence... just saying anyone who isnt a child shouldnt immediately assume im a child based on that, and if you do, well i guess its a good thing im not out for the approval of every person who makes an overall assumption based on a small line of text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Kelandon Originally Posted By: Lilith seriously if you honestly think "to go boldly where no man has gone before" sounds better than the alternative you should probably not tell anyone how to write anything ever again Face it: you love meter. Especially iambs. Oh, sweet iambs. Mora had a little iamb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 nobody who doesn't properly capitalise and punctuate every sentence should be listened to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lilith nobody who doesn't properly capitalise and punctuate every sentence should be listened to and neither should people who end sentences with prepositions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 That's a rule up with which I will not put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lilith seriously if you honestly think "to go boldly where no man has gone before" sounds better than the alternative you should probably not tell anyone how to write anything ever again I didn't say it sounds better. It is simply grammatically correct. I avoid split infinitives in formal writing, not speech. Okay, not as much in speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Master1 I didn't say it sounds better. It is simply grammatically correct. what makes something grammatically correct? because some dude who wanted english to be more like latin said so a couple of hundred years ago? the only valid measure of whether a sentence is "correct" is how easily your meaning is understood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lilith the only valid measure of whether a sentence is "correct" is how easily your meaning is understood Not is this sentence at correct all, but yet can you possibly understand it effort with. Not it's correct just comprehension due to, but obeys because laws certain grammatical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 so did you just like completely skim over the word "easily" there or what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 i will defend the position that your post was more correct than a randomly-generated string of words would have been although "correct" is probably a misleading word to use anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody waterplant Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lilith so did you just like completely skim over the word "easily" there or what Originally Posted By: Lilith i will defend the position that your post was more correct than a randomly-generated string of words would have been although "correct" is probably a misleading word to use anyway Abandon punctuation all Ye who enter here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Ugh trollation. Look, this is pretty simple. Language involves a very large set of complex and interrelated rules that allow us to make sense of it and hence to communicate. These rules are not static; they change, gradually, over time as different speakers do different things with the language. In addition, it is not necessary to follow every single rule in order to be understood. This has less to do with language change and more to do with the basic cognitive ability of being able to reconstruct an ordered whole from disordered and incomplete parts. As a result, "correctness" in language lies on a continuum -- it is not boolean. Additionally, the true test of "correctness" is simply whether a native speaker hears an utterance as totally normal, as sounding off, or as incomprehensible -- or as something in between those poles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but in a nitpicking thread I think it's appropriate. Double posting is not an acceptable gimmick. Knock it off. You're already causing enough trouble with lack of capitalization with readers around who can't tell incompetence from ee cummings. —Alorael, who rejects the argument against splitting infinitives as a matter of making English more like Latin. The argument seems to be more about a stylistic choice that became an iron-clad rule of style to some arbiters of language. There has never been a time when the rule seems to have been uncontested by equally literate luminaries, though, so go ahead and split in peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Fine, fine, I'll quit it. edit: bring back misc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 It's called General now. —Alorael, who wishes he had some record of number of topics locked due to being not General. He'd guess that there haven't been any lockings in far, far longer than the total lifetime of Misc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 nitpikas nit; –noun 1. the egg of a parasitic insect, esp. of a louse, often attached to a hair or a fiber of clothing. 2. the young of such an insect. pi·ka; –noun any of several small, brown to gray tailless mammals of the genus Ochotona, resembling rabbits with short ears and legs and inhabiting western mountains of North America and parts of eastern Europe and Asia. From these definitions we can deduce that a nitpika is the egg of a pika, and also that pikas are both mammals, insects, and parasitic. Hooray for math! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 just for the record two of my posts are better than one of anyone else's wait that sounds less impressive than it did in my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lilith just for the record two of my posts are better than one of anyone else's wait that sounds less impressive than it did in my head That would have been more impressive if you'd split it up into two posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Originally Posted By: Lilith Originally Posted By: Master1 I didn't say it sounds better. It is simply grammatically correct. what makes something grammatically correct? because some dude who wanted english to be more like latin said so a couple of hundred years ago? the only valid measure of whether a sentence is "correct" is how easily your meaning is understood Perhaps it should be mentioned that I'm in my junior year of high school (2 years left). I'll be taking the PSAT this year, in one week, actually. That qualifies me for the National Merit Scholarship, and the SAT that I'll be taking all too soon is an unfortunately large factor in the colleges I can get into. So grammar and usage are still important for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 As a fellow junior in high school having already taken the PSAT, it seemed to me that most of the grammar related questions were pretty specific in context. Any influences this forum could have on your grammar would only affect your preformance in a very general way. imo. However, it could be that the lack of variety of the grammar-related content is specific to my version of the PSAT. On the other hand, I suppose it would help with writing that silly, 20 minute essay. However, you would have more luck with the essay if you practice making two pages of repetitive nonesense look meaningful as opposed to working on your grammar. Then again, perhaps making nonesense into something meaningful is what grammar really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I've taken the PSAT twice. And how could you have already taken it, or are you referencing past years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Originally Posted By: Master1 I've taken the PSAT twice. And how could you have already taken it, or are you referencing past years? How could someone about the same age as you and a comparable position in society to yours have done something you have done (twice, no less)? Intruiging indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Originally Posted By: Unknown NPC How could someone about the same age as you and a comparable position in society to yours have done something you have done (twice, no less)? Intruiging indeed. This conspiracy clearly goes all the way to the top. Obama, the CIA, Mossad, the Taliban, and the reptilian overlords from the lower fifth dimension are clearly involved in the plot orchestrated and designed by Unknown NPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I think there I have a quote that should sum up the nit-picking of the english language. "Don't discuss the English language! Slam the door on it!" -Kaval Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Unplayable Playable Character Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Master1, you seem to not agree with me about my statement about the grammar section of the PSAT. What did you think of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 I would be shocked if the PSAT cared about split infinitives or ending sentences with prepositions. The reading and writing sections can't go into minutiae and can't evaluate anything when there isn't an academic consensus on what's correct. And, well, high school teachers aren't always perfectly accurate and free of pedantic errors, either. —Alorael, who thinks this board is a surprisingly literate and, more importantly for you, wordcrafty corner of the internet. Just look for your inspiration in other posts; this, and others by its author, are too laden with preciousness to serve as good examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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