Unstable Thahds, plated clawbugs[G5]

[marvin]

I am new to Geneforge 5 and I have been looked at this forum.

 

How do you create Unstable Thads and plated clawbugs? I see them referenced in the forum, but I don't see them listed as creation types.

 

Is an Unstable Thad just a Thad you have skill of two in instead of one?

[Nioca]

When you learn three levels of a specific creation, a new variant is unlocked. Unstable Thahds and Plated Bugs are two such variants.

 

To select a variant creation, click on the base creation (e.g., to create a Cryoa, click on the Fyora portrait; for a Plated Bug, click on the Clawbug portrait) and then click the plus that appears in the bottom corner of the portrait. If the plus doesn't appear, that means you don't have three levels in that creation.

[marvin]

Thanks. It worked. Not so sure corrupted Thahds are that good though. Attack is good, but they lose there health so quickly.

[Alorael at Large]

There are a number of unstable creations. They're strictly temporary, as keeping them alive is painfully hard as they hemorrhage health.

 

—Alorael, who considers most of them useless. The possible exception is the shock trall, which is a very late-game creation and makes up for its brief life with overwhelming force.

[Lilith]

The main advantages of unstable thahds are that they deliver an acidic payload with their attacks, and they have an excellent set of resistances. Under specific circumstances, they're easier to keep alive than regular thahds.

[Dantius]

Originally Posted By: THURYL CHANGED HIS NAME!!!

Under specific circumstances, they're easier to keep alive than regular thahds.

They are great for taking down Unbound, as they have immense magic resistance. A moderately powerful Lifecrafter could manage to take down a roving unbound before completing Mera.

[Unplayable Playable Character]

Originally Posted By: Dantius

They are great for taking down Unbound, as they have immense magic resistance. A moderately powerful Lifecrafter could manage to take down a roving unbound before completing Mera.

I did it with a sorceress. I also used the same tactic when clearing out the bandit nest is Mera, made about 4 of 'em and sent 'em in.

[Spddin Ignis]

I almost always play as a powerful Shaper, so I take down all the unbound as I encounter them with the exception of Gorash-kel. So the unbound are taken out right after I complete the bandit quest.

[marvin]

I have an Infiltrator at normal difficulty. I tried 7 Corrupted Thad a bunch of times against an Unbound at Gorash-kel, but I keep getting killed.

 

I also tried using them at Lerman's Pass. I made some headway at Lerhmans Pass, but I had to burn through a lot of pods and spores and keep recreting them. They died pretty quickly there. I gave up for now. I could do it if I burn through most of what I have in terms of pods and spores. I am trying to figure out my best path South to meet that Drakon.

[Men are from Slars]

I suspect that having reasonable skill in Battle Shaping is necessary to use Corrupted Thahds well. What's your BS skill?

[A less presumptuous name.]

Do you have regeneration aura? That lets them keep living despite their bleeding health. Also, put on as many buffs as you can and stay out of the unbound's range, but close enough to heal your units as they fight. If all of that doesn't work, then this may just not be a viable strategy, either due to a weakness on your part, or, more likely, it only works on easy. Not having tested, I can't say which.

[marvin]

My battle shaping skill is 2. As an Infiltrator I focused more on battle magic 9, mental magic 8, spellcraft 6, intelligence 9.

 

My healing magic is only 2. I might have to raise it despite the high cost so that I can do a group heal or regeneration aura.

 

I didn't think my Corrupted Thads could take on the Unbound by themselves, so I stayed in rage to hurl lightning or accid at it. However, I could try staying back.

[Unplayable Playable Character]

Originally Posted By: Leadendy

What's your BS skill?

That would be his Leadership skill .

[ĐªгŦĦ Єяŋϊε]

very funny

[Unplayable Playable Character]

Originally Posted By: Darth Ernie

very funny

very true

IMO, BS skill would be much more self-explanatory than Leadership skill.

[Lilith]

Originally Posted By: marvin

I didn't think my Corrupted Thads could take on the Unbound by themselves, so I stayed in rage to hurl lightning or accid at it. However, I could try staying back.

If you stand at exactly the right distance, you can still hit the Unbound with ranged attacks, but its aura attacks won't hurt you.

[A less presumptuous name.]

Having a battle shaping of 2 makes things difficult. I tend to pump up my battle magic to about 10 very early. Regardless, you definitely want to get regeneration aura, it's a life saver.

 

As Thuryl suggested, you can stand at a certain distance and attack without being attacked yourself. I recommend hitting it with wrack first to weaken it and then sling some damage over time attacks, alternating with healing and rebuffing.

[Unplayable Playable Character]

Originally Posted By: Master1

Having a battle shaping of 2 makes things difficult. I tend to pump up my battle magic to about 10 very early.

With an infiltrator? Not very recommendable.

I find one or two creations to be moderately useful with an Infiltrator/Agent, but no more. You shouldn't really need to worry about healing so much either.

[Randomizer]

Regeneation Aura is quite good for restoring health while you concentrate on the more important task of killing everything in sight. Some healing craft is worth the cost.

[Dikiyoba]

Regeneration aura is awesome if you've got lots of creations to manage, especially if you have unstable ones.

 

It's Dikiyoba's favorite spell in G5.