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Xelgion

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  1. With geneforge texts, you don't want to hear Norse-Heavy metal while you read how you will attack a shaper, and on a second point, it just doesn't seem his style.
  2. Why? Just out of curiosity, but thank you for showing me that window.
  3. Well, heres a game that is really funny and really sick, just a little freshener of the topic. (And there are tons of Puns in this)
  4. Quote: That describes my response to that .
  5. Quote: Artila-ry Clinton. Worst pun I have ever seen (the worse the pun is, the more ridiculous it is)
  6. Quote: Now that I've spent two months working reasonably hard on Geneforge 5, I can start posting some monthly updates about it.As time goes on, I'm talk about the interface upgrades (considerable), the game system and spell system upgrades, and all the little things that will go into finishing this series. This will indeed be the last game in the Geneforge saga. At last, you can bring the war to an end. Coming up with a plausible way for one lone person to help end this enormous conflict has been very difficult. The complexity of the game and the storyline is making me a bit dizzy. Still, I think I have it under control. The storyline and game structure will be much closer to Geneforge 1 and 2. You will wander around and interact with five (FIVE!) different factions. Eventually, you can choose one to fight for. There are all of the options you probably predicted from the previous games, and others that might take you by surprise. You will start, as usual, as a lone Shaper/lifecrafter. You will be able to choose to be either a Shaper character (the old three choices) or as one of the six different rebel classes. Yes, I am putting in the "missing" sixth character class from the rebel side. The spell system will be mostly the same, but I am completely reworking how buffs work to make them more interesting and player friendly. I'll go into this more in later months. Suffice it to say for now that the "OK, this fight is tough, I'll put 12 buffs on every character. Zzzz." system had to go. The big design question for me now is how to handle the "evolved" versions of the creations. Geneforge 4 had stronger versions of creations that started dying immediately so you had to use them quickly. They appear to not have been at all popular. I want to find a better way to approach this. (Note: Making creations during combat is not an option.) I hope to release the game for the Mac in November. Since I've been making good progress, this seems doable. - Jeff Vogel YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! When is it gonna come out for PC? I is gonna flunk school too, SC2 will destroy my live, G5 is gonna be the painkiller. YES!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. No reason to, we are doing more than contradicting each other.
  8. Quote: So you admit that the Outsider loyalists (apart from the two year olds, the little dears) have free will, and know that their actions assist in the continuation of an era of oppression and genocide. Nice to know that you're willing to concede that point. As for the two year olds, you're right. I don't support the targeting of two year olds, as they aren't enemies of the Rebels. But if they happen to get killed while their parents are being targeted, that's just tough. Stuff like that happens in war all the time. You don't think two year olds were killed in the carpet bombings of Dresden, the nuclear bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the napalming of Vietnam, the bombing campaign against Serbia, the artillery bombardments and air strikes against the West Bank and Lebanon...? I could go on and on, but I don't think I need to drill the point home with a sledgehammer. Ok, I will respond to this quote divided by paragraphs. Paragraph 1: The average outsider doesn't know jack about the shapers or rebels, all they know is that the shapers are the government, and that makes them better. So, yes they do have free will, just ignorant free will. Paragraph 2: Thats why I don't understand why you are so pro-war, do you like killing children? Paragraph 3:God dammit, GENEFORGE IS NOT LIKE THE REAL WORLD!!!!!!!! Quote: Nice to see that you're willing to concede another point. So rebellion against the Shapers is justified, nay, a moral responsibility? No one here believes that the massacre of the Drayks was reasonable, but the rebellion is not justified if they use the same, hated tactics that the shapers use.(like if a country went to war with another country because they where cruel in battle, but then the attacking country uses the same cruelty, its called being big, fat, hypocrite.) However, you seem to say that the shapers fighting back is wrong, their current position is fine, if the average grunt isn't a complete arse. Quote: Shaper loyalists must die. Aha! But according to you earlier, all people who support the shapers must die, so all those ignorant farmers MUST die, by your point of view. Quote: Like the Germans under the Nazi regime? The people get the government that they deserve. If the Shaper loyalists refuse to stand up and fight against the draconian policies of their government while supporting genocide and enslavement both materialistically and in spirit, then they deserve everything they get. Do you think my Slavic ancestors in the camps cried when German 'civilians' were killed in the indiscriminant aerial bombardment of Germany? And no, this isn't an appeal to emotion, it's just a simple observation. If you and your family are being exterminated and enslaved, the fact that a few 'civilians' who either implicitly or explicitly supported your extermination were killed in the fight for your freedom is the least of your worries. I have said this before, the average citizen doesn't see the bad side of the shapers. Quote: Haha, good stuff. So I can construct bombs for terrorists, but as long as I'm not the one who actually detonates them and kills kaffir, I'm absolved of blame. If the terrorists stole it from a storage complex, no the person who made the bomb isn't, what you are suggesting is that a person made a bomb and then GAVE it to the terrorists, it isn't like that in the situation you quoted. Quote: False. It is not genocide to target those who are actively or passively enslaving and destroying your people. The fact that they happen to be part of a nation or political group is incidental (nice try, Diki). Last time I checked, there are no drayk/drakon labor workforces and they rarely die in battle, so yes it is genocide. Quote: It is not genocide to target Shaper loyalists, any more than it was genocide for the Yanks to blow up Nazis and Nazi sympathisers. And if anyone gets in the way, tough titty for them! Even if people hate a fraction, it doesn't mean killing them en mass isn't genocide. My god LT. Oh and by the way, I haven't read the posts after the one I quoted, as soon I saw this I had an urge to respond, so don't smack me if someone else already said what I'm saying.
  9. Quote: I think Geneforge 5 should have new skills and it should end with the drakons separating from the Rebellion and destroying both the rebels and the shapers. I could see it happening, that way, the people who support rebels but hate drakons will have their hour. (oh and by the way, do you mean the drakons will fight the rebels and shapers, or destroy the shapers and rebels? Oh and, Welcome to the Spiderweb boards, please leave your sanity at the door, or the fluffy turtles will get you.
  10. In the fiery depths of Quessa-Uss, dark lord Galdring made a creation, and in this creation, he poured his cruelty, his malice, and his will to dominate all life! One creation to rule them all!
  11. Personally, I would like a stronger force coming in, so that all peeps would have to join up and fight them. And also that was HORRIBLE necromancy.
  12. Pohyphra, its awesome, killing all the shaper officials with a slow-enchanted Puresteel-soulblade, the ironic thing is that you get the Viper sword, which is worse than a sword you can pillage from a general. YAY 200 POSTS MILESTONE-TASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  13. Rhetorical question, anyway, these topics are amusing, reminds me of my newb days, ah *sniff, good ol' times
  14. No Servant Minds, Serviles, Turrets, Mines, Spawners, Golems, Batons, Living Tools, or door operators? BOOOOO! EDIT: I bet you can't find where I got this
  15. I fel srry for yr grmmer mn, nt usin' vlvs sn't koll, WTF n00b yuk yuk! Seriously, stop.
  16. Explosive Trojan Horse: Explosive Roamers XD Kinggolden: thanks for showing me that, never realized it. I would like the ability to do telekinesis fighting, using telekinesis to command the way a sword would move, commanding up to 4 swords at a time! Remember: Freelancer Rules!
  17. Ok, just as a FYI I didn't read the last few posts because I saw something I was itching to say. Quote: "If a woman can strike her rapist in self-defense, aren't you also justifying his right to strike her back?" Yeah, shapers are defiantly the evil, strong rapist, and the rebels the weak old victim. Give me a break, but hey, on second thought...... The woman takes out a gun and the rapist tries to run away but she shoots him in the head, seem right to you LT? Quote: From what I've seen throughout the series, the Outsiders don't support the Rebellion because they profit under the current status quo imposed by the Shaper regime. Even if there is the slight possibility that a grown adult human is stupid enough to get suckered in to believing lies and supporting enslavement and genocide, I don't really care. Someone that mentally stunted deserves to die. I'm not going to shed any tears if they happen to get caught in the crossfire, and there's no way in hell I'd inconvenience myself (at the risk of my own troops lives) to try and spare them. "Inconvenience myself and my troops" Are we talking to Salassar? Quote: Engaging in indiscriminant slaughter of your oppressors out of self-preservation, and to wriggle out from under the control of an oppressive regime, is justified. The unbound was NOT self-preservation, it was... on second though let me ask a different question. Do you believe that the rebellion has done anything wrong, or are they perfect?
  18. Quote: Dryss (a Drakon) from the Taker Toll road in GF2: The PC: "That is too bad. Creations should not have to fight to be free. But if they must ... Dryss: ""Yesss. I suppose I would not kill and eat the Shapersss if I could avoid it. I would rather have happy, quiet life, being wealthy and eating meat. But that isss not the life I was created into."; Issss-Ta (a Drayk), from Zhass-Usss in GF2: PC: "You don't want the Shapers to be destroyed?" Issss-Ta: "I do not want it to be necessary. But remember, it was your kind who created us, and then you decided that we should no longer exist. We have to defend ourselves." Wow two examples, give him a round of applause! Seriously, there are many, MANY drayks/drakons, and you found two out of at least a thousand of both. Quote: False. Even the most anti-human of the Drakons didn't wish to engage in the extermination of homo sapiens. Speculation Quote: Yep, But other than that, you're correct. I'm glad that I hammered my point home, and that you were able to grasp it with minimum confusion (a rare feat!). A person makes a loaf of bread that is sent to a shaper, the person who made it knows where it will go, does that mean he has to be killed? And god dammit, STOP MAKING NAZI REFERENCES, THE JEWS ARE NOT DRAKONS/DRAYKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote: They aren't 'supporting' squat Oh, so creation rights is squat? Bleh, LT is a drakon. Quote: Sooner or later LT is gonna pop in Knew I was right!
  19. I want the shaping opening screen back, when I got g1 All I did was shape all of them, after 2 hours of doing so I got a little message at the bottom: "You know, there is the acual Geneforge game! -Jeff Vogel" That was amusing.
  20. Oh my, it sounds wonderful. Wow, a person imitating Jeran Korak, amusing.
  21. Amusing, the person who wrote the noob episode is being called a noob.... oh well.
  22. And double-posting SUCK, you know how to use the edit, come on peeps!
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