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Yep.. 15 Ap when sped up, 3 attacks 200-275 dm each, with QA doubling almost every time(I had 16!), 225 x 6 = 1350 damage capability per round.

Quote: Originally written by Clavicle: Yes, they're arrogant and power-hungry. All people with power desire more power. That's the nature of the lifestyle. Same with the Drakons. They also wish to resume ruling the world, same as the Drakons wish to overthrow that rule so that they themselves may rule. These are just pieces of a larger, complicated picture. *Groan It doesn't take Xel'Nagan Future-telling to tell that this is gonna end up in a debate.

Quote: Originally written by Goldenking: Forging is overrated; the only times I forge a single thing are when they're artifacts. Even then, I don't go overboard with it, and my first few runthroughs I didn't forge a single thing. Not for me, I like to forge at least the three best artifacts in the game(Shapemaster boots, Gloves of Sav, and Cloak of Shadows) and sometimes I forge Legs of Tyrant, and there are a couple of other useful things, like per say...Talisman of Might, (+4Str!) Let me tell you my servile load out: Cloak: Cloak of Shadows(Spine enhanced) Sword: Puresteel Soulblade(Slow enhanced) Ring: Forbidden Band(Stun resist enhanced) Belt: Girdle of Life(Acid resist enhanced) Armor: Drakonain Plate(Magic resist enhanced) Neck: Talisman of Might Shield: Quicksilver Bulwark Gloves: Gloves of Savagery(Harder to hit enhanced) Leg Armor: Legs of the Tyrant(Harder to hit enhanced) Feet: Quicksilver sandals(Stun resist enhanced) I loved him

Quote: all of the demo. *wink *wink, *nudge *nudge. Please?

Who the hell?

Quote: Originally written by Master1: roflmao!! if you thought it was that funny you should knock yourself out with this:

Quote: Originally written by le page: looking forward to 5! but i wonder what the next spiderweb series will be! So does everyone else.... Welcome to Spiderweb boards, leave your sanity at the door if you wish to cross the turtles alive.

I don't like having creations, they just get in the way and suck up xp. Maybe it was because I played as a servile but hey. But the Protoss do like Rotrgroths, even if they are battle creations.

Quote: Originally written by Nioca: Hey! Get your snoot out of here! Me?

Lizard Bat, very cool.

Quote: Originally written by brock petersdorf-nelson: Quote: Originally written by Xel'Raga: Quote: Originally written by The Duke: Its a very complicated matter, but when it comes to it I think the rebels are the lesser of two evils. They have a much greater capacity for change. The shapers have been set in their ways for much too long to change them. The rebels may currently be overzealos due to some of the Drakons, but I have faith that their leader will rein them in and that they will see reason. Sorry, but have you finished the rebel endings? Because I see it hard to believe that with the evidence planted in the game. Can you explain your position more? Now THAT is he kind of talking i like seeing! asking if he understands, and saying he disagrees in a gentle and understanding way! Go you! Oh, thanks.

Quote: Originally written by Ale193: To me the shapers are the lesser of the two evils, they're oppressive and i don't think anyone doesn't at least sympathize with the original rebel goals, but if the Shapers are Hitler, than the Rebels are Atila the Hun on crack with a nuclear arsenal. Nooooo! the inevitable Nazi refrences!! Quote: I feel that the Shapers are 'less evil' than the rebels. You can't generalize like that, there is a difference between the drakon and the human rebellion, heres a example Human efforts: Illya safehouse Drakon efforts: Unbound Quote: IMHO, the rebellion would be better off without them Yes and no. Yes to the fact that they would have better morale, but no to the fact that without the drakons, the rebellion is as powerful as the travokites.

Quote: Originally written by The Duke: Its a very complicated matter, but when it comes to it I think the rebels are the lesser of two evils. They have a much greater capacity for change. The shapers have been set in their ways for much too long to change them. The rebels may currently be overzealos due to some of the Drakons, but I have faith that their leader will rein them in and that they will see reason. Sorry, but have you finished the rebel endings? Because I see it hard to believe that with the evidence planted in the game. Can you explain your position more?

Quote: Originally written by bl00drequiem: Well, I think as far as the story goes, the Shapers, in as far as even though the government is oppressive at times, they keep the peace, protect the people, and do their best to keep shaping from getting out of hand. Still... I love the drayks and drakons, they're so much fun to have as your creations, and at the very least, I definitely like the rebel ending of G4 where you end up being a extremely powerful leader and ruler. People like power, and shapers aren't 100% bad, its just that some members are deluded.

Quote: Originally written by Drakoninvader1: I don't think I should have read that post, because now I'm going to be in an itch to play. But I would like to mention that I really think you should put in a feature where you have the option to turn on or off the tutorial messages because that is extremely annoying all the "ok's" I have to hit to get throughout the tutorial.I would also like to mention the fact that the missing sixth class I'm putting my money on it being a strong magic, average shaper but I still cant figure out what they will be. Doubt a drakon though because it would it seem they have better melee combat skills. I hope everyone isn't as itchy as I am and everybody at spiderweb to keep making good games, and one heck of a good one to replace Geneforge. Replace?!!! Never. As for the last class: Arch Sage, I am glad that you can be shaper classes, the agent looks cooler than the infiltrator, the buff system sounds great, hopefully the agent/infiltrator won't be so rigged, I'm sure everyone saw Synergy\'s Play through, so I'm thankful Jeff. Oh, but Jeff one question, when you said there will be a built in editor, will it be a blade type of thing, or is it a cheat?

*silence* Hey, whats going on? Oh wait? whats that you say? LT is banned? WOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!

Nothing else worth debating in GF, besides, it keeps the poll active and lets more peeps use it, and it is always amusing to watch LT "post", or in other words, flame. Quote: Then someone brings in the inevitable Nazi references Ack!! Don't remind me!

Quote: Quote: Till the arrival of Lepus Timidus, it was a debate. They happen occasionally, sometimes get heated, but are generally nothing to worry about (unless you're a participant). Heck, you might even learn something. With the arrival of Lepus Timidus, though, this one turned into a troll fest. FYT Its pretty much true, with Nayld, Nicoa and myself, the last debate topic was a discussion, although LT did troll a little in the last topic, it wasn't this bad, right now Nicoa and LT are just bouncing and rebounding at each other.

Quote: *stares, dumbfounded, then breaks into raucous laughter* ...are you kidding me?! Your entire debate has practically been how Shapers are evil, heartless Nazis and how the Rebels are saintly heroes forced to do evil by the bad guys, repeated over and over and over, despite evidence and good sense to the contrary, with a side of how Outsiders are the equivalent of Nazi supporters. Then you claim that you don't repeat the same assertions constantly, even when soundly refuted? Ha! And I thought the Rebels were hypocrites! FYI, regarding your little jab at me, you simply disagreeing with me does not make the argument 'soundly refuted', no matter how much you say otherwise. At best, it makes it contested. This reminds me of the old topic.... Anyway, I have said my view, happy flaming!

With geneforge texts, you don't want to hear Norse-Heavy metal while you read how you will attack a shaper, and on a second point, it just doesn't seem his style.

Quote: I only hope this thread doesn't turn into another "What is better, Shapers or Rebels" debate. The UBB can only take so much... Long live the Shapers. That is the most ironic post I have ever read, the exact same people, argue about the exact same thing, only this time, it is a stand-off between Nicoa and LT, last time, Nayld and I joined in the fun.

LT: How can you write those shameless lies!?

(Or the fact that LT is a drakon) >

Why? Just out of curiosity, but thank you for showing me that window.

Well, heres a game that is really funny and really sick, just a little freshener of the topic. (And there are tons of Puns in this)