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Same problem here. It also freezes for some seconds when I move the party more than just a few steps. I'm on a 2.5GHz Athlon with Win2k.

Well, even the sounds are more Geneforge than Avernum. It's most astonishing how completely Avernum has vanished from the game. What got me hooked years back, what made me curious and made me love the game - all gone.

If you want to, mail it to me. I'll try to cut it down in size, upload it to my online archive and you can link to it from there.

I'm curious now. Rent-an-Ihrno, let me change to german to clarify the uvular/alveolar problem. Wie formst du ein 'R'? Mit der Zungenspitze oder mit der Rachenmandel (Zäpfchen)? Zungenspitze (tip of the tongue)=alveolar, Rachenmandel (uvular)=uvular. edit: you can upload it to your website, Thralni, and link to it.

That's why I asked 'where' in your mouth you form the vowels. You see, as a former singer and actor I've had quite an intensive phonetic training. Once the vowels are placed correctly, the placing of the 'R'-sound does not have to be adapted. It stays put, so to speak. With 'throaty' vowels, the placing of the 'R'-sound changes slightly, to make space for and adapt to the vowel. But that would be true for all vowels then, so for 'i', 'o', 'u' as well. edit: Ringelnatz, read by Gerd Boysen, an actor of some renown. Quite a few 'R's here, some close to trills. Kuttel Daddeldu

That alveolar trill, Kel, you'll still hear it a lot in Switzerland, though not in Austria or Germany. Thralni, try as I may, I don't quite get the difference between 'Ramstein' and 'Recht'. People with very throaty voices, who place the vowels almost in their throats instead of their mouths may have to adapt a bit, is that what you mean? The page Kel linked to gives 'Wasser' and 'Rad' as examples. The pronounciation of 'Rad' is utterly correct for an 'R' at the beginning of a word. But you know how it is, everyday language tends to be slurry and not always precise phonetically, so often the 'R'-sound at the beginning of words resembles something in between 'Rad' and 'Wasser'. It's just not so precise anymore.

Quote: Imperfect(um) is "He was throwing." Now that is interesting. The german language does not have an equivalent to your '-ing'-form, Dutch hasn't either as far as I know. So within the context of my own language, simple past and imperfect are identical. 'Ich ging' = 'I went' is all there is, 'I was going' needs a workaround to be expressed.

In the meantime, maybe this link could be useful: Google Scholar/Sumerian/Genitive

Quote: Also, how come you want to see a book or article that much? isn't it enough that the head of the IAA (International Association of Assyriology) (my father) told me how it is, No, it is not enough. If you don't know that, then your father will. From a researcher's point of view, Slartucker has nothing but hearsay to guide him right now, and has to trust that you, a non-professional in this area, have fully grasped what you've been told and passed it on correctly. I would call that a scientist's nightmare. I'm sure your father can provide such a reference easily, and would be happy to do so, were he aware of the deep and genuine involvement of the one who's asking for it.

Quote: as long as there aren't any walkthrough-related labels on them There are small circles with numbers on them that point to game related information. They have been edited in, they can be edited out.

Rache's written the most complex and detailed walkthrough on Avernum 3 that's ever been put on the web. More than a walkthrough, she covers all and every question you might have concerning the game. I never imagined anything as outstanding as her endeavour when I offered to help her, and that's why to my everlasting shame I got stuck after reformatting roughly 2/3 of her site. My own efforts focused on providing an easy to use and clean navigation as well as on creating image maps, where moving your cursor over the map brings up information on the many details she so painstakingly collected. Things she couldn't do herself. We've removed the link to this unfinished oeuvre. But I guess, her site would be more often used, if it were easier to search and navigate. Now this is a question to Aran and his ermarian.net: Rache has maps for every spot you might want to visit in A3. Do you plan to include maps in your encyclopedia? Shall we try to contact Rache and ask her, if she'd like to see them there? edit: I'll put the links to both sites in my sig. Sorry Aran, you have maps on your site. Didn't find them immediately.

You talk about Charlemagne then. But your quote is giving the impression that a common language existed at that time, which all germanic and frankic tribes were able to understand and use. That's not so. There were the Old Lower Germanic dialects, variations of which were spoken by the people in the north, and the Old High Germanic dialects (Frankish among them) which were spoken in the middle and southern parts of what was to become Charlemagne's empire. Neighbouring tribes were usually able to understand each other, but if you moved farther away.. 'Theodisc' is not one particular language; the expression simply refers to the use of each and every germanic dialect as opposed to the church's Latin. It was Martin Luther, who (when translating the bible) created a language from a conglomerate of those dialects that were most often used and best understood. But in the early days his translation was always accompanied by dictionaries that explained and translated words that people in that particular region of the land would not understand.

Quote: In a attempt to seperate themselves from the Romans, the teutons living there called their language "Theodisk." This name soon was the name of the language spoken in the whole of the teuton empire. I'm being a nitpick now. The Teutons never had an empire, nor did they live alongside Romans. They were a tribe from Jutland (some historians say Skandinavia), that in the 2. centaury B.C. migrated south to the Danube valley together with their neighbours, the Cimbri. Upon encountering Romans in the valley they went on into Gaul where they attacked the Roman Empire. Initially victorious, they were desastrously defeated 102 B.C. They did not survive as a tribe, as their women killed the children and committed mass suicide when they were asked to surrender. The Romans named them Teutoni, a derivation from Proto-Germanic 'Theudanos' = 'they of the tribe', 'they of the people'. Greatly admiring the women's heroism, many roman legends and tales were spun around this people. But: they were just one of dozens of germanic tribes, each with their own language and culture.

Nevermind, Wikipedia knows everything: Diets

Quote: By the way, Deutsch came directly from the name "Diets." Could you give me a link to where this comes from? From what I know the root is gothic 'biuda' (engl: thiuda) and its adjective 'biutisc', meaning 'the people' and 'of the people'. The first letter is not a 'b', I don't have the correct equivalent on my keybord. The latinised version 'theotisc' was used in the middle ages to separate 'latin', the language of the clergy and the educated from 'theotisc', the language(s) of the people.

I like the figure. Yes, you'd have to work on colour and shading, but as you said, that's not a big deal. I don't know what type of mesh you made - is the waistpoint movable (I mean, is it a joint or not)? If it were, I'd like to see more variation between the resting and attacking poses. But other than that, I wish I were as comfortable working with Blender as you seem to be.

Quote: But I wrote them into the game before I realized that I couldn't find a different, decent Poser model for a weird bug. The MOMENT I find one, that clawbug is SO out of there. I don't know, if Jeff Vogel still checks this topic. But just in case - I may have come upon something. DAZ produces almost all of Poser's models. Go to their website, which is daz3d.com and browse through their animal galleries. You'll find an ant and a mosquito that can both be morphed into decent chitrachs. (In case they should not be Poser format, but DAZ only: they have their own studio, much like Poser, just a bit less complex and downloadable for free.)

'Poser' is expensive. 'Blender' on the other hand is open source and free, well documented, and comes with a lot of tutorials and support for both Mac and Windows. Blender.org

Quote: Paintshop Pro v5 is freeware Yes, it used to be while its producer 'Jasc' still owned it. But since 'Corel' has taken over 'Jasc', the freeware has vanished from the web. All you can donwnload now is Corel's trial version of Paintshop Pro X. 'The Gimp' is always a good alternative and is open source. The Gimp I also like Irfan View. Wouldn't want any other picture viewer. edit: ADoS, can you give me a link to that Photoshop 6 version you use? 'Jasc' used to be one of my favourites, I'd like to know where to download some of their former software. As to which software people use - though I know that Adobe is univerally adored, I still prefer to work with Corel and Macromedia.

'Serif' is offering some of its software as freeware. 'Serif PhotoPlus 6' is a very good photo and image editing program. You have to register, but it's free. They have some other interesting programs that you might like to check out. Here's the link: FreeSerifSoftware.com

Quote: Ef, can I bother you with a graphics question, as you are somebody whom I think you no the most about them? You can 'bother' me, though there are quite a few who know more than I do. So what's your problem?

As far as I know, the Stuffit Expander itself is freeware. It is nowadays part of a shareware program that you can use to compress files. If they didn't change the procedure, you can choose a 'Custom-Installation' and have only the Expander installed. After the 30-day trial the compression tool stops working, but the Expander should be unaffected and still functioning.

Quote: but it hasn't been working for a couple of weeks now Try to remember what you did before this happened. Did you install or uninstall a program or application? Ahbleza already asked, if you got a virus warning or deleted spyware. Check everything else. Is anything else causing problems too? XP has a repair function. Files can get corrupt, can be overwritten or can get lost. First check for viruses, but if there aren't any, it might be a good idea to let Windows repair itself.

Try 'The Gimp'. It's free. The Gimp/Macintosh

refering to post above: The files I suggested for download do exactly that. They are a selfextracting .exe. SkeleTony found them when he confronted a like problem and gave them to several people here.