Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Before Facepalming Hecatonchire's (can't remember how to spell his/her name) challenge, the Warrior wasn't quite the worst, although pretty close. Now however, the Shocktrooper is more powerful with her many creations than the Warrior with his fighting ability. The Shocktrooper has beaten the Warrior now, and has become the Lifecrafter that doesn't blow away in a breeze. Also, now Thuryl has discovered that the Servile is better at the pure Melee, no Magic that used to be the only way the Warrior unique. Is the Warrior really any use anymore? All of the Warrior's playing styles can now be played just as easily, or easier, as an other class. Is there any reason to pick the Warrior other than the graphic anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 You don't have to play as a lowly servile, duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Aequitas Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 He looks more imposing than a little rebel servile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Originally by Kyrek: Quote: Before Facepalming Hecatonchire's (can't remember how to spell his/her name) challenge... Slartucker. Or Slarty. Quote: Is the Warrior really any use anymore? All of the Warrior's playing styles can now be played just as easily, or easier, as an other class. Is there any reason to pick the Warrior other than the graphic anymore? Dikiyoba thinks we need to turn playing a Warrior into a challenge. Or find someone who will love it now and forever, no matter how ineffective it may be. Either one will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 I find it fun....., but it's no longer unique.I wish it was, but with the inclusion of the servile it no longer is. Quote: Slartucker. Or Slarty. Thanks, I couldn't remember the spelling at the time. Quote: You don't have to play as a lowly servile, duh. Quote: He looks more imposing than a little rebel servile. So basically the only reasons so far are: - if you are like ET and hate serviles. - because the graphic looks cooler. If the Warrior had some kind of strength bonus, or some other bonus, it would be unique, but without it, it's like a lesser Servile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Retlaw May Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 A human can't be lesser than a servile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Guardian Magma has been absent for a while so we don't have his opinion of his favorite class. The main reason to run a servile is the starting stats are slightly better, especially for these strange challenges. A warrior isn't completely useless, just mostly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice ex post slarto Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Well, there's one challenge for which the Warrior is 100% optimal. The Trakovite Royale -- no creations, no canisters, AND no magic. The Warrior and Servile are the obvious winners here, and IIRC the Warrior's HP bonus is 2 HP higher than the Servile's. So he just barely edges out the Servile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Facepalming Hecatonchire:Well, there's one challenge for which the Warrior is 100% optimal. The Trakovite Royale -- no creations, no canisters, AND no magic. The Warrior and Servile are the obvious winners here, and IIRC the Warrior's HP bonus is 2 HP higher than the Servile's. So he just barely edges out the Servile. Dude. Read the first post of my thread in which I'm actually doing that challenge. The Servile is the one with 2 more HP, and it also gets slightly better starting leadership/mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice ex post slarto Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 See, this is why I like to say IIRC. Because I seem to be turning into Ronald Reagan at 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Fyora Toast With Roamer Butter Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 A human is far less than a servile. It is not created for a purpose by great and powerful shaper mages. Humans are meat for shaper creations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk The1Kobra Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 If I remember correctly, the warrior type was useful in 2, but not in 3. I know in 2, what I did with my guardian is put everything into parry, endurance, and shaping stuff (mostly). I charged in first, mostly invulnerable, and let my drayks do all of the damage. Problem is, Parry isn't rigged in 3 (it was in two,), and I will assume it isn't in 4 either... So yeah,,, the warrior... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 The problem with the Warrior in G4 is that there's another class exactly like it only better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Not exactly true. The problem is that the class exchanges the warrior's weakness for a strength, or at least adequacy. Serviles excel at fighting even more than warriors and do better at the far more useful magic skills. —Alorael, who is sure shaping will rise again! Maybe even Shapers, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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