Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Where can I get it and how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 You can't. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 To widen Dikiyoba's reply a little: The Ritual of Sanctification doesn't exist in A1. At least you can't learn it. That's why you can only push back some of the monster infestations in A1, and the A2 party gets to actually destroy their sources. For example, when you complete the Spiral Crypt quest in A1 and kill the master shade, it says something like "While the frostiest frost in this frosty chamber has become a little less frosty, it's still quite cold. Someone else will have to come back here and purge the source of the undead somewhen, as you don't have the power to do so." The only way to destroy evil altars in A1 is by smashing them physically. Note that that's seldom possible and always dangerous, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Aran Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Quote: At least you can't learn it. Does that mean you can use the character editor to get it? Not that that would be useful, since the result of RoS is purely scripted, and Jeff wouldn't script something that can't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I doubt it exists in the A1 engine. It only first appears in A2, and Jeff isn't known for forward-thinking engine design. If it does exist, though, good luck getting to it. The editor isn't all that powerful, and there are no scripts to mess with. —Alorael, who uses Ritual of Sanctification after going through all cave, sewer, and swamp areas. Hygiene is important! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 walkthroughs mention it only at a2 and a3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Originally Posted By: Hellin Daimiel to Helansajar I doubt it exists in the A1 engine. It only first appears in A2, and Jeff isn't known for forward-thinking engine design. If it does exist, though, good luck getting to it. The editor isn't all that powerful, and there are no scripts to mess with. Alorael, who uses Ritual of Sanctification after going through all cave, sewer, and swamp areas. Hygiene is important! A1 doesn't have Ritual of Sanctification; I know this because: 1) E1 doesn't have it either, and 2) I practically tore A1 apart looking for the Ritual, and didn't find it. In some circles, I have a reputation for finding supposedly nonexistent things; if I can't find something, it usually doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Even if it existed, it might not be actually used in the game. There might be nothing that you can do with it, there might be no locations where you can use it and it will actually do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Quote: if I can't find something, it usually doesn't exist. Or maybe a jedi erased it from the game's source code... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 We're talking in circles. It definitely doesn't exist in the game that you can access by playing, but the remaining question is whether Jeff coded it and then left it out. The consensus seems to be no. —Alorael, who can live with that. A Jedi didn't erase it from the code, it never was in the code in the first place. Or, given how Jeff codes, the Exile version of the ritual may be in the Avernum code but utterly unusable because the spell list is entirely different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Then I change the Question what Artifact existed in Avernum series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Define artifact. There are several named items that have major powers: Demonslayer, the Black Halberd, Smite, Formello's mayor's gold necklace, and others that I can't think of now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Uh... lots? Demonslayer and the Orb of Thralni are the major ones that appear in all three games of the first trilogy, though not always centrally. The Alien Blade, Smite, and the Jade Halberd are also recurring unique weapons. Pachtar's Plate, the Ring of (Endless) Magery, and The Fury Crossbow round out the major artifacts of A3, but there are many other minor ones. Are you looking for anything in particular? —Alorael, who thinks you might do better looking for walkthroughs in the forum headers. Schrodinger's GameFAQs are well-written and full of information about items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 How about Pachtar`s Plate and Black Halberd? What their effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Pachtar's Plate is strong armor. It has nice resistances, I believe. The Black Halberd is the strongest polearm in the game and arguably the best weapon overall. You can get all this information (in more detail, too) from the link in the forum header. —Alorael, who recommends doing a little bit of work yourself instead of posting repeated questions. Is there any particular point to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Just ranking up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Please don't. As I've already said elsewhere, posting an endless stream of questions is spamming. We would be happy to answer your questions in a consolidated form or if you seemed to care about or benefit from the answers, but you seem to be asking just for the sake of posting. The general Spiderweb rule is that if you don't have anything to add to a conversation you shouldn't post in it. —Alorael, who will be the first to admit that "something" doesn't have to be very much. Even a short but relevant quip beats constant interrogation, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Okay but I really don't know that. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Rent-an-Ihrno Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Don't worry, it's really about people who spam on purpose. And we're quite hardened here, at the latest since the "omg wtf man" wreaked havoc in these (and other) boards. Just one thing about the artifacts: be sure to concentrate on items which give you bonus action points. Pachtar's Plate, the Fury Crossbow, Boots of Speed and some others all give you +1 AP. But seriously, it's much easier to look in the FAQs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Thank You . And sorry for spamming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Reading the program itself I found the list of abilities: Summon Beast Call Spirit Lay On Hands Natural Curing Go Berzerk Inner Might Defensive Glow Thus there is no reference whatsoever to the Ritual of Sanctification. This took a bit of doing because the relevant text is recorded as two-bit, not the usual one-bit. I was switching text between the MS-Dos Edit command and a hex editor. (The hex editor has a replace command that is very slow when replacing or deleting large amounts of text.) It started at place 9,731,344 in a file that was 9,950,720 bytes long. I was looking at the Windows version of the Avernum 1 program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Ishad Nha Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Using the Resource Hacker program I was able to look at all the dialogs and strings, emphatically there is no Ritual of Sanctification available to a player. I was able to use the Save all Resources command to draw up an rc file. There were a few references to the Ritual in this file, but they were included in a list of BoE nodes. (The file contained Nethergate spell descriptions and all sorts of stuff.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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