Curious Artila poolwin2001 Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Is there any place we can get this,instead of buying this from the lady in Kentia? As you all know,this is required for creating new objects in the forge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt I_am_a_Minotaur Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 With high enough luck an artila in sea caves drops it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 Even with merely modest luck, by the end of the game you can pick up half a dozen of the things. That's actually good, because combining them with silver necklaces is the only way to turn a decent profit on forging items, as opposed to just selling the components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted June 5, 2005 Share Posted June 5, 2005 No no no... Turn them into wands!!! Discipline wands kick bootay. And, I might add, discipline wands do tons of damage to Creators and Spawners, as well as serviles and other creations. Not so hot against humans and other shapers though. Stick, gemstone, saltweed, and artilla eye. PAIN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila poolwin2001 Posted June 7, 2005 Author Share Posted June 7, 2005 Thats too bad. I have fallen to the habit of never buying anything from the shops after playing G1 and G2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 It seems to me that money is far too damn worthless in all the games. All the good equipment is either looted, found, given or stolen. Trainers only train so far. I always have 10.000GC or so with nothing to spend it on. This needs to be changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Wands should be rechargeable. Some wands have very hard to find bits. Solves the gold problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Walter Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Well I suppose it was intended for there to be enough gold supply to be able to afford both all the training in the game, as well as a hefty amount of expendable items like crystals wands and spores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan kuc Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 I agree on gold. Even just the mines in the demo. Crystals galore. I was ridiculously rich, with nothing in particular to spend it on. It seems that after the veritable poverty of G1 and G2, also with shopkeepers running out of gold, G3 has then gone completely overboard the other way. Shopkeepers no longer have finite gold supplies, and gold itself, is very very common. I prefer scrounging for gold, and taking multiple loot trips than having more gold than i know what to do with, personally =/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Dolphin Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 The real spending comes at higher levels; creations, spells and abilities will really drain your gold. One moment you have 20,000 gold, and three purchases later it's down to 5,000. I like the way the gold works in GF3. With loot everywhere, and shopkeepers with unlimited funds, I could actually buy quality equipment and high-level creations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Walter Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Well indeed unless you buy massive numbers of spores and crystals and such you'll have more money than you have a use for on the first island, you then can use it all up on the second island with training in creations and in combat skills, so you should finish the demo broke. And I personally found shopkeepers running out of money very annoying so you'd keep having to haul your loot to a different shopkeeper when you exhausted one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Taeweil Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Quote: Originally written by kuc:I prefer scrounging for gold, and taking multiple loot trips than having more gold than i know what to do with, personally =/ Kuc, Azul hit the nail on the head here. You dont have much to spend it on for the first two islands, late in the game though you can easily go from 25+k gold to 0 in a few minutes getting the high end spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 You can? I can't, unless I buy spells I condsider "useless". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan kuc Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Meh, i suppose its just preference. I have always been an Exile/Avernum person, where you tend to have enough gold for everything. Then you'd have to scroung, save and explore extra dungeons to save enough for the hermit trainers which would train skills like Magery or Blademaster. I havent got to the main part of the game yet, but even the 2nd island was easy to buy through. I'm happy to be proven wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Delicious Vlish Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 If looted properly, the first island alone can get you about 7k in gold. That's including selling off those bolts of cloth from the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Schrodinger Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 Near the end of the game, there's 50 K in alterations you can purchase on the Isle of Spears and the Monastery of Tears. That's always been enough to blow off the rest of my gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 The main advantage of my last Guardian's obstinate purism was that I didn't have to worry about scrounging money to pay those 'trainers', who are really just foul, tempting fiends that want to forge your genes! So I could finally stop picking up every bolt of cloth and suit of quicksilver plate I found, and be free! On the other hand, I had to take several trips back and forth to the monastery island just to haul in all the stuff I needed for my assault on the Caves. I left the place with burnt-out Inferno Wands scattered like cigarette butts in an airport smoking area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Dolphin Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 I always had enough gold because I only bought what I knew I needed. I've taken to only using Fire and Magic Shaping, so that saves on some unnecessary spending. I also only buy the spells I like to use, which is about half of them. I love canisters and the Drakon's blessings, so a purist ending is out of the question for me. I felt really rich until I got to the Isle of Spears and the Monastery. Yeah, you're rich in the beginning, but in the beginning everything is relatively inexpensive. Taewell - Call me Dolphin, Azul is just the current name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Skippy the bush kangaroo Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Playing as a shaper the first time through I found money to be an issue. It costs a lot of money to get, for example, Lady Anjil to train you in shaping skills and there wasn't that much money to be had. Playing as an agent the second time around I found that money was not an issue. Basically I had fewer things to spend my money on. But I had also learned what worked and what didn't in the game. When you go through the first time you are apt to try everything and this will bleed your cash. At any rate, in the latter game the basic unit of account is around 10,000 gold and you don't find that kind of cash lying around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Taeweil Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Quote: Originally written by Azul:Taewell - Call me Dolphin, Azul is just the current name. Will do, Azul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila poolwin2001 Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 Dont you guys think that this topic had gone way off topic?? I dont minding spending gold to buy the artila eye,But it is just that you never have to buy items(only spells and creations) in G1 and G2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Skippy the bush kangaroo Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Quote: Originally written by poolwin2001:Dont you guys think that this topic had gone way off topic?? Way off topic? No. There is a clear thread that runs from your original post all the way to the end. Indeed, we're not even talking six degrees of separation here - two at most. Way off-topic would be discussing whether a thread is on topic or not. Oh, ... never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Your original question's already been answered anyway, so I trust you'll forgive us our indulgence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk mok Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Quote: Originally written by Schrodinger:Near the end of the game, there's 50 K in alterations you can purchase on the Isle of Spears and the Monastery of Tears. That's always been enough to blow off the rest of my gold. This is true, but it is made more difficult to do when you realize that your $$ caps out at 30k. Why does it cap out? There's no good reason... unless when your shaper gets there s/he's thinking, "well, 30k is about enough, I feel rich. I'll sell all this junk for free now." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Shaper society has a peculiar kind of flat tax. Everything anyone owns above 30K is instantly confiscated and used to fund that fine universal health care system that puts scissors, scalpels and bolts of cloth in every zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 You can purcherate alterations in the MoT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Contra Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 You can purchase alterations in the MoT? By the way, Six Steps of Seperation needs to be turned into a movie. Or..Perhaps it allready has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Walter Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Quote: Originally written by kuc:Meh, i suppose its just preference. I have always been an Exile/Avernum person, where you tend to have enough gold for everything. Then you'd have to scroung, save and explore extra dungeons to save enough for the hermit trainers which would train skills like Magery or Blademaster. You could NEVER have too much gold in exile/avernum, as you could always buy knowledge brews. Quote: Originally written by mokThis is true, but it is made more difficult to do when you realize that your $$ caps out at 30k. Why does it cap out? There's no good reason... unless when your shaper gets there s/he's thinking, "well, 30k is about enough, I feel rich. I'll sell all this junk for free now." It could be worse, in Avernum it capped at 15k, which seemed especially inadequate in Avernum 3, where that would buy you 2 points of magery or parry, which would be quite a trip back, and several times I would notice I had just sold a bunch of stuff over the limit without noticing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd D.Drew Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 well i think i found 5 of them i think yes, believe me about 5 and i didnt hack them and plus i forgot where i got em so dont ask me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Drakefyre Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Please don't revive old topics to answer questions that have already been answered (or forgotten). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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