Articulate Vlish Tuldrac Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 What would you do if one day, you woke up with the sudden ability to create life like a shaper. What would you try create? Would you proceed with caution like a shaper or make random/dangerous stuff? I know I'd probably try to create a drakon equivalent as well as turrets, proceeding dangerously untill I almost get killed, then go the shaper way =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Acky Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 In the game universe? I'd find a small island to rule over. Probably rule like a Dictator, but with a little compassion. I wouldn't be cruel to my creations, at least not intentionally. In real life? I'd hide my abilities and probably would be to scared to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish MadProfessor Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 In the game universe I would make a school where I teach shaping only to those that have a good mind to comprehend it and a good heart to use it. In the real world I probably wont use my shaping powers.Only God should have the ability to make life. Heh I must`ve sounded like a trakovite . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Well, the first thing I'd do is head over to the physics department at the nearest prestigious university and show off a bit, mainly because the fireworks of having everything disproved ever would be fun to watch. But then I'd probably approach the government and have them give me sufficient resources to figure out a way to duplicate my powers or imprint them on other, (ala the Geneforge). More of me controlled by me would probably greatly propel me towards my goal of power. Blackmail and other objectives should bring me closer, until I eventually attain absolute power, because that is the only acceptable goal. Obviously, the plans wold be greatly changed if others not controlled by me had power, too. I would have to rethink everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I would go into a life of seclusion until I perfected the art of charm, and the creation of wingbolts and wartralls. Then, I'd begin to experiment by creating a second me and testing the geneforge on him. If the testing goes well, I'll test it on myself and so forth until I reach a state of immortality and become like X. Then I'd take over the whole world and do away with famine by trying to shape a new species of plant specifically for each region that will die in another region, but will grow well for that region. Then, I will start trying to shape a bio computer that is the fastest computer in the world, and start playing computer games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Monroe Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Originally Posted By: Dantius I'd probably approach the government Pretty sure that the government would approach you in the middle of the night and no one would ever see you again. Since it's unlikely a single Shaper would last long in the modern world, I'd probably create things I found useful and release them into the environment. Some oil eating crabs for the Gulf of Mexico, some fruitful desert growing plants for starving wasteland countries, you know, some serious altruistic stuff. Maybe I'd reveal that it was me in old age, when everyone was familiar with the thing's I'd created already. Then, when the government came for me, I'd at least die (and be dissected) as a legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Originally Posted By: Monroe Originally Posted By: Dantius I'd probably approach the government Pretty sure that the government would approach you in the middle of the night and no one would ever see you again. Since it's unlikely a single Shaper would last long in the modern world, I'd probably create things I found useful and release them into the environment. Some oil eating crabs for the Gulf of Mexico, some fruitful desert growing plants for starving wasteland countries, you know, some serious altruistic stuff. Maybe I'd reveal that it was me in old age, when everyone was familiar with the thing's I'd created already. Then, when the government came for me, I'd at least die (and be dissected) as a legend. The thing is, the oil eating crabs might multiply too quickly, and start eating all of the available oil. Oh well, we need to curb our addiction to oil anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Tristan Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 That's the kind of situation that the shapers rules are meant for. I'd take a few babys, train them and make them loyal to me.... Then stage a world wide coup and claim power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Originally Posted By: Shaper Tristan That's the kind of situation that the shapers rules are meant for. I'd take a few babys, train them and make them loyal to me.... Then stage a world wide coup and claim power. Without the natural built-in obedience that the creations have to their shaper, the babies might still rebel against you because not every baby has the same personality. Wouldn't you think it easier to shape the babies so that you'd have at least some degree of control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Tuldrac Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 Now that I think about it, I'd buy an island, load it up with turrets (oh the beauty of obedient flora) then quietly work creating dangerous creatures to protect me when I run out of money to pay rates/mortgage on my island =D Then again i must keep in mind that the millitary has air strikes... Oh well, it would be a fun life =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Originally Posted By: Tuldrac Now that I think about it, I'd buy an island, load it up with turrets (oh the beauty of obedient flora) then quietly work creating dangerous creatures to protect me when I run out of money to pay rates/mortgage on my island =D Then again i must keep in mind that the millitary has air strikes... Oh well, it would be a fun life =P The thing is, turrets can still go rogue if you don't tend to their needs properly, like any other creation. Creations are a double-edged sword, unless you are able to treat them properly and take care of them. Well, I don't think ornks would go crazy since they don't care about anything afterall. Couldn't you make your own money by shaping a money printer and all or something? Also, if you had wingbolts/vlish, you could rule the sky and the sea. Your vlish would be able to detect any underwater attacks through telepathy and control them. Your wingbolts would be able to take out the odd humans who would not be charmed by either you or your vlish. Also, I wonder if it is also assumed that we have all of these abilities because not all of the shapers knew how to shape different types of creations in the beginning. Hey I think you'd be able to find a way to bypass the whole rogue creation idea by combining the technologies of manking with shaper batons and turrets. You could shape batons or breed them, and just breed the ammo. Build a machine that would use the batons and fire at enemies. Since the batons can't go rogue (or if they do I haven't heard of this in the Gf games), and machines don't really have a conciousness, you will have no obedience problems from that. The thing is, you'd either have to shape yourself, get another person to help you who is specialized in this area, or shape a creature (such as a servile) to deal with this. If you chose the latter 2, you'd still face obedience problems in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Originally Posted By: Geneforgeisforme Since the batons can't go rogue (or if they do I haven't heard of this in the Gf games) The games do explain how batons are bred. They don't go rogue, but they do require training before they'll fire ammo correctly. Before they're trained, they're prone to spitting thorns whenever and at whoever they feel like it. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Artila Arronax Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I'd probably track down everyone else i could find with these powers and either try to recruit them or kill them. In the real world i'd be satisfied with a little self sufficient power base somewhere. Who needs to be a world power when you have everything you could ever want and enough muscle to keep it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Originally Posted By: Arronax I'd probably track down everyone else i could find with these powers and either try to recruit them or kill them. In the real world i'd be satisfied with a little self sufficient power base somewhere. Who needs to be a world power when you have everything you could ever want and enough muscle to keep it? People, thats who. As people become used to what they have, they want to have more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast The Mystic Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Originally Posted By: Arronax Who needs to be a world power when you have everything you could ever want and enough muscle to keep it? Actually, in a roundabout way, that could be used as a definition of a world power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Originally Posted By: The Mystic Originally Posted By: Arronax Who needs to be a world power when you have everything you could ever want and enough muscle to keep it? Actually, in a roundabout way, that could be used as a definition of a world power. Generally world powers also control lots of land and huge armies, or economic control, or religious control. I don' think one person could ever be a world power, by definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Lauren CW Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Control tools for government officials, with cameras embedded. If the cameras ever stopped transmitting, or they went to have the control tools removed... I'd rig a sensor to activate and kill them. I would NOT be worried about being black-bagged in the middle of the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Tristan Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Originally Posted By: Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Originally Posted By: Shaper Tristan That's the kind of situation that the shapers rules are meant for. I'd take a few babys, train them and make them loyal to me.... Then stage a world wide coup and claim power. Without the natural built-in obedience that the creations have to their shaper, the babies might still rebel against you because not every baby has the same personality. Wouldn't you think it easier to shape the babies so that you'd have at least some degree of control? raising children from birth to be completely loyal to you would be just as effective, think Manson family and you'll get an idea. Besides I wouldint teach them everything I know, so in case they do rebel I can destroy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Originally Posted By: Shaper Tristan Originally Posted By: Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Originally Posted By: Shaper Tristan That's the kind of situation that the shapers rules are meant for. I'd take a few babys, train them and make them loyal to me.... Then stage a world wide coup and claim power. Without the natural built-in obedience that the creations have to their shaper, the babies might still rebel against you because not every baby has the same personality. Wouldn't you think it easier to shape the babies so that you'd have at least some degree of control? raising children from birth to be completely loyal to you would be just as effective, think Manson family and you'll get an idea. Besides I wouldint teach them everything I know, so in case they do rebel I can destroy them. Yeah, but with children, they tend to become curius and may start working together to uncover your secrets, instead of being obedient (at least in the beginning) if they were creations. There is probably more of a chance of the children finding out something you don't want them to know as compared to creations. Also, aren't they already adults? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Tuldrac Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Alternitavely you could make a bunch of serviles capable of using magic, treat them fairly and bring them up to believe what you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Originally Posted By: Tuldrac Alternitavely you could make a bunch of serviles capable of using magic, treat them fairly and bring them up to believe what you believe. Now this, this is the type of compromise we all needed, but what about when the serviles start breeding? Their offspring wouldn't have the natural built-in obedience to the shaper anymore, and could feel free to believe what they wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Tuldrac Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Only make serviles of the same sex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Originally Posted By: Tuldrac Only make serviles of the same sex? What about when they start getting... you know? Tension is bad right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Tuldrac Posted July 15, 2010 Author Share Posted July 15, 2010 Well... Serviles do have hands... Or I could just make them infertile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Tristan Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Originally Posted By: Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Yeah, but with children, they tend to become curius and may start working together to uncover your secrets, instead of being obedient (at least in the beginning) if they were creations. There is probably more of a chance of the children finding out something you don't want them to know as compared to creations. Also, aren't they already adults? not if you raise them not to be, control tools are also a possibility, if I raise them to believe that I am a god(or at least powerful beyond belief) then they won't dare question me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Originally Posted By: Shaper Tristan Originally Posted By: Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Yeah, but with children, they tend to become curius and may start working together to uncover your secrets, instead of being obedient (at least in the beginning) if they were creations. There is probably more of a chance of the children finding out something you don't want them to know as compared to creations. Also, aren't they already adults? not if you raise them not to be, control tools are also a possibility, if I raise them to believe that I am a god(or at least powerful beyond belief) then they won't dare question me. I don't know, I vaguely remember reading something about shapers raising the serviles and outsiders to believe them to be gods. That didn't turn out too well, you know, with the rebellion and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Tristan Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 But it did work for countless years, besides I wouldint have them be slaves they would hold positions of power, basically like regular shapers only I would be the council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Tuldrac Posted July 17, 2010 Author Share Posted July 17, 2010 Yeah thats what I meant, more like allies/friends then slaves. I wouldnt make them as powerful as me though just incase they try to overthrow me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Geneforgeisformeyukkyu Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 You could also try implanting a control tool (during their creation so it becomes essential to their livelihood because their organs would have grown around it) like Rawal without them knowing, if they knowingly betray you, and you deem the betrayal necessary. Just make sure you have the control tool be able to read memories, so you can know what the servile did. Make sure you have a way to effectively communicate with them too (like telepathy?). The cons of this is that if your servants find out that you didn't trust them, they might become uneasy towards you, and be more prone to rebellion if put in a lose-lose situation. You could also become too power-hungry and blind to know when to actually kill off the servile so that the other serviles see it as a just punishment, and so the servile you killed off has exhausted its usefulness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Tristan Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Couldint you just shape a fail safe method into their minds or something? But of course in my fantasy they wouldint be creations so I figure I could implant all new borns with it and just tell them that it's like that naturely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I would make....Flying pigs! And possibly buffalo's with wings... mmmmm. Now im hungry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fledgling Fyora loco2 Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I'd make a cat that shot lasers or maybe a dog that would explode (like a roamer but it actually looked like a dog) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Txgangsta Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I'd make a snake that shot lots of acid! Oh wait... I know! I'd make a floating octopus that would use its mind to attack things! Oh wait... I know! I'd make a dragon! Oh wait... I think I'll be a trakovite... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Artemis~ Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I'd illegally modify myself to become sailor moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 ........Sailor moon.....please excuse me while I gouge my eyes out in a attempt to forget that show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Artemis~ Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 hehe, mission accomplished. the anime sucked. but their outfits were cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I dont think I can come up with any comebacks without breaking one of the rules of conduct, so im just going to sit in a corner and be quiet now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Txgangsta Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Originally Posted By: Tirien I dont think I can come up with any comebacks ... Ooo! I can! It's going to take a lot of shaping to fit you in one of those outfits. teehee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk SamSniped Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 If I were a Shaper, I would probably end up doing something involving takeover and Obama...But I have found that some people are NOT pro-republican, and i don't want to start a political debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 ..Must...resist...political....debate... If I could shape, I would make the poor taste like bacon. Then World-Hunger, Poverty, and Overpopulation would be solved!... You can thank me later, unless your poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Artemis~ Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I can totally fit into those outfits! Quote: Then World-Hunger, Poverty, and Overpopulation would be solved!... You can thank me later, unless your poor. You're a shaper, remember? You're selfish and greedy. The last thing that you would be ending is world hunger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 Originally Posted By: Artemis~ You're a shaper, remember? You're selfish and greedy. The last thing that you would be ending is world hunger. True, but dont forget, there would be no more poor people begging for my money. Also, I would have a lifetime supply of bacon-flavored poor people. Yum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan La paix Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Originally Posted By: SamSniped ...But I have found that some people are NOT pro-republican Oh, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 facepalm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Artemis~ Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Quote: facepalm I'm not the only one who smells a political debate thread? Huzzah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Smells like deep-fried twinkies.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Txgangsta Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Well, lets get the ball rolling. I dislike the Republican Party. I also dislike the Democratic Party. In fact, I dislike political parties altogether. I vote for whoever is less stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 Originally Posted By: Txgangsta Well, lets get the ball rolling. I dislike the Republican Party. I also dislike the Democratic Party. In fact, I dislike political parties altogether. I vote for whoever is less stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Tirien Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 I remember seeing that once before. -Votes for Cthulhu- Best idea ive had so far. If I was a shaper, i would make Cthulhu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted August 24, 2010 Share Posted August 24, 2010 If I were a shaper, there would be no political parties. Only me and my network of servant mines controlling the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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