Kyshakk Koan Firecage Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I want to know what creation tier I should go with in GF3. As I understand it, Vlish are pretty powerfull, but I do not know where I should go with them or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Yes. Vlish are overpowered in G3. Use them. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Firecage Posted February 18, 2010 Author Share Posted February 18, 2010 Thanks. just one more thing. Where do I find the vlish again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 You can get vlish training on the second island from the Shaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Akharri Blaze Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Also Dhonal isle[ sorry if its spelled wrong] has a trainer who can teach you to make the vlish, but it is expensive to non shapers, so i recommend not training by him or her until you are absolutely sure you want to be a ally to the shapers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Articulate Vlish Akharri Blaze Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Also, I have found it exeedingly difficult to use the vlish as a warrior,so if you are a warrior, I recommend using battle alphas instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Firecage Posted February 20, 2010 Author Share Posted February 20, 2010 Ah. Thanks for advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Rionep Ecnirp Etlevs Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Yes. Vlish are overpowered in G3. Use them. Dikiyoba. Late in the game, I can't imagine them being any good unless you've leveled magic shaping or kept your vlish alive throughout. Wouldn't their Str/Dex be too low to hit-stun much higher level creations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Vlish in G3 are quite powerful. Make a posse of them on Harmony Isle after learning from Diwaniya, they'll get you through the rest of the game. Just remember that sometimes you have to have them close to engage in melee combat, against some enemies resistant to their regular attacks. A hoard of Vlish is all you'll need, though (well, some blessing magic really helps). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Originally Posted By: Rionep Ecnirp Etlevs Originally Posted By: Dikiyoba Yes. Vlish are overpowered in G3. Use them. Dikiyoba. Late in the game, I can't imagine them being any good unless you've leveled magic shaping or kept your vlish alive throughout. Wouldn't their Str/Dex be too low to hit-stun much higher level creations? No. In the first three Geneforge games, any creation raised to a high level would have more or less indistinguishable, very very high stats. Due to balance adjustments made in G2 and then G3 that weakened pretty much everything other than Vlish attacks, they are absurdly overpowered in G3. See the Broken Vlish analysis linked from G3 Strategy Central for more details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Firecage Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 I got one last question. Which is better? The normal Vlish or a Terror Vlish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Triumph Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Normal Vlish are fine, and they are cheaper in essence, and can be obtained sooner (I think there is a canister of Create Vlish in the Twinmind Tunnels, so the soonest you could get Terror Vlish is by training for two levels with Diwaniya and then getting that canister). Plain Vlish may actually be better overall, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 You want both. Regular vlish curse and terror vlish slow, so with the combination, you should be able to shut opponents down. Dikiyoba will leave the exact mix to you, or to whoever has actually played a vlish game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Mea Tulpa Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Not true -- in the first three games regular Vlish slow. I don't remember what the ancillary effect of Terror Vlish is in G3 -- it's either poison or slow IIRC -- but the really cool thing about them is that their ranged attack is poison elemental, which is totally unique and extremely useful. Since Vlish are so overpowered, I recommend a mix of 5 regular Vlish and 2 Terror Vlish (which are more expensive, which means you don't make them till later which in G3 means they are permanently at a lower level). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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