Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I just got the Clover boots in G4, and I was surprised to find that in addition to the +3 luck bonus, they add +1 to Stealth. I take it that Stealth is a hidden skill, which presumably lets you sneak a bit closer to hostiles than you'd otherwise get away with. Does anybody know if it has a base value, based on Dex perhaps, or if it's possible to train in it, or whether it will ever appear in the character info screen? Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall The Ratt Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I think that, like you said, it's hidden, and is not affected by anything other than stealth and won't ever appear on character info. I'm not 100% positive though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Go to the first zone outside Southforge. There is a lady hiding there that explains stelth and gives you an example of how to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Yes, I remember her. I just didn't realize that it was an actual in-game skill to which bonuses could be applied. It makes me wonder if there are any other hidden skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Vampiric touch, radiance, and stealth are a few that only appear as bonuses on items. Stealth is really useful in avoiding detection by monsters and triggering mines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 So the only way to increase this skill is to acquire more boosting items, assuming they exist. OK, cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Does stealth work for mines? I never tested it; I preferred just blasting through ever. What games does stealth appear in, and which ones let stealth affect mine detection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Hypnotic Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 You can sneak past things in all 5 games. Stealth can be increased in G4-G5. Possibly the others but I'm not sure. Only in G4 does it effect mines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Just found a canister of Speed, another hidden skill, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Speed is a spell, casting it multiplies your action points by 1.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Right. Duh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 There is a stat for speed, and I guess you could call it a hidden stat. Different creatures walk at different speeds (orks, for example, are very slow). Sadly, you can't change this "stat" without altering the character stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Not Always Dantius. In the later games, speed was down-graded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 But we're not talking about other games, we're talking about G4. Hence "Stealth in G4?". Therefore, the canister of speed would have been found in G4, before it was nerfed. Also, movement speed outside of combat means almost nothing- things generally (couple of exceptions) get the same number of action points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 in g4, wasn'y it nerfed? I dont remember. Have't played in a while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Speed was not changed until G5. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Spddin Ignis Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Ok. Sorry then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 GF4 was the first game where you no longer needed the minimum of 5 action points left to do an action other than drop items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Jerakeen Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 It seems that Energy Preservation is another hidden skill, though. I suppose it's similar to Magical Efficiency from Avernum. But unlike the Avernum games, there seems to be no way to unlock the hidden skills so that they can be trained. Correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall A less presumptuous name. Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Correct. I'm not familiar enough with Avernum to understand exactly what you're talking about, but you can't train hidden skills; they can only be boosted by items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Dantius Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 In Avernum, if you got enough of two normal skills, you could train in the hidden skills. For example, if you got 8 Intelligence and 8 Spellcraft, you could train Magery. If you got 8 Magery and 8 Endurance, you could train Magical Efficiency, and so on. Geneforge didn't have this, much to its benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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