Burgeoning Battle Gamma Dark.Fenix Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 im playing a singleton in hard mode (torment is way out of my league...for now) and its been a consuming-time-game sence my bags are full very with crystals/herbs/various potions and i have to keep geting back and back to towns to sell the extra stuff i dont need and to deposit the mats i want to stack. by the time i reched exodus i lost my sanity and used the "iampoor" :'( is this the only way? going back to town evry time. PS:and yes, i got several piles of stash with pots herbs fine steel leather crystals... in the portal room where cienna is, so i dont need to have most of them on my bag slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Ouroboros Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Use the Universal Money Cheat. http://www.ironycentral.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=96399#Post96399 or you could do every quest in Job board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 For a start, don't buy extra levels of spells from trainers. The improvement is so small it's not worth the cost. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Dark.Fenix Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 i know about that cheat... u could put the value up to 90000 and each cake would sell for +24k... but i was looking for some noncheat tips like Dikiyoba's one. thanks to both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Alorael at Large Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 You won't be able to afford everything. Generally equipment should be your lowest priority, as the best stuff isn't for sale. Skills are good to buy when you can. You only need a single level of any spell, but the very low level and high utility ones like Bolt of Fire and the lowest level heal (Minor Heal?) might as well be bought twice. They're cheap. —Alorael, who thinks the hardest part of A5 may be waiting. You can buy most things eventually, but not right when you reach the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenderfoot Thahd Vahnatai Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Sell those piles of crystals (but not focusing ones). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 its same as on party, sell all you don't need and don't buy armors or weaps since you find equal or better 1s at enemies or get as reward. don't sell mined crystals until you've reached vahnatais lands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Feo Takahari Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 If you hang onto all the potion ingredients you find, you're in for a treat once you reach Muck and talk to the potionmaster. I was able to make 13 Knowledge Brews in that first meeting, and if you're a singleton, that equates to a bonus of 26 skill points, making your life a lot easier. In the meantime, well, this game wasn't intended for a singleton. (I think Jeff specifically stated that it was to be unbeatable with a singleton on Torment.) I'll let the others tell you how to keep yourself alive that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Originally Posted By: feo takahari In the meantime, well, this game wasn't intended for a singleton. (I think Jeff specifically stated that it was to be unbeatable with a singleton on Torment.) I'll let the others tell you how to keep yourself alive that far. I think he actually said that making the game beatable with a singleton wasn't a major design goal for him. So the fact that it's possible is mostly a testament to players' resourcefulness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Check Strategy Central and you will see that it is possible to beat the game as a singleton on torment difficulty. Jeff doesn't intend for it to be possible beyond a casual player using a full party doing all the major quests on normal. Anything else is up to the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Dark.Fenix Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 :S about the herbs and the muck potionmaster... damnit... oh well the speed pots came handy anyway yeah i actualy sell what i dont need and only ekip myself from drops or quest rewards, the problem is that the bag (the only 1 in singleton) gets full very fast, i have half of bag with potions, a switch belt (to trade from a +2str and a +1int) and some speed scrolls/wands... the part that just a single spell level is necessary was something i need cause other than the speed pots i buy the rest of the gold on down on skills or spell trainers. also im in hard mode, my first tries on torment revealed...well a torment... that crocolist took me some time to kill and the slime under harston well i never killed him in torment... thanks for the help guys edit: btw, does any1 know the trainable skills requirements for the special skills? like 6dext+6def=parry and 6dext+10bow=sharpshooter edit2:does any1 know the mats for the knowledge brews? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Check the strategy central. It has the information you want on special skills (and possibly knowledge brews). Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody Feo Takahari Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Knowledge brews require one of each "classical" (standard) potion ingredient. Typically, what will hold you back from getting more is a lack of mandrake root, though graymold is occasionally a problem. I myself used every mandrake root I found to make a knowledge potion, and even Dorikas became easy (on Normal, anyways.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 store herbs and other stuff you don't need to portal room and sell all extra stuff (not included quest stuffs) asap. you can put potions to quick slots and use haste-spell instead of speed-potions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Dark.Fenix Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Originally Posted By: Earth2025 store herbs and other stuff you don't need to portal room and sell all extra stuff (not included quest stuffs) asap. you can put potions to quick slots and use haste-spell instead of speed-potions. i already do all of that, and i cant use haste spell cause im trying a pole slith with priest spells for shades and buffs (gotta love enduring shield), my main dmg output is still my pole and trustfull shades (gota love their curse). i got 1 point on mage at the char creation for firebolt but sence i only raised priest spells and melee skills, firebolt kinda sucks now -> 5wasted points... also there might be a bug on my game, cause im reaching lyzek (?or something like that) the beast with 8 parry i i only get 16%parry, shouldnt i be around 24%? this is my first atempt in hard singleton, not torment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Parry is 3% per level in melee and 2% per level versus missle attacks. You can make it through to the Vahnatai Lands at least as a singleton with just priest spells and items for haste spell. I haven't gotten around to finishing my game, but it seems possible to do it without mage spells. Pick the hardest fights to use speed potions and elixirs because some enemies like to slow you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Dark.Fenix Posted December 10, 2008 Author Share Posted December 10, 2008 Originally Posted By: Randomizer Parry is 3% per level in melee and 2% per level versus missle attacks. versus lysstak i got the 24% back , thanks for the explanation easy fight in hard mode if u buff the rat and the other dude with enduring shield and steel skin(?), both made it out alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Originally Posted By: Dark.Fenix easy fight in hard mode if u buff the rat and the other dude with enduring shield and steel skin(?), both made it out alive. doubt it much matters if they survive or not but its nice to keep them alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Dark.Fenix Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 they did and took most of the beeting, couldnt scare the rat away while he was looking at me with its beenie eyes i also trained 2 more mage points to get haste spell and acid, way easier fights now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 get 3rd level and you get fireball so you can do long range damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Dark.Fenix Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 i did cleared all tranquility except for the chitrach egghatcher(?) still havent adventured in trying to get slith bloodspear and my tries to kill the sentinel prototipe at the workshop have failed. i was amased how acid is so overpwered, the shade was just a long easy fight (i got 36% parry with silken shield, enduring shield and steel skin so dmg mitigation is not a problem) so acid is being my main start spell (after haste,2shades and party buffs) thinking in restarting the game sence i got a lot of wasted talents that i could have maximized their utility like training the 1º 3 points of NL and the rest at drake pillars. also i got 5 points on first aid, it has had litle to none influence in my game and also magical eficiency is way better (in my opinion)... and some other mistakes. also planing to go more deep into mage then priest (gonna miss steel skin :'( ) now... neph, for his "nimbleness" bonus, or slith, for his imba poison/acid resist? (with the ring,boots and leggs i have to switch-on i take very few dmg to even bother using a cure spell) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Callie Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Originally Posted By: Dark.Fenix now... neph, for his "nimbleness" bonus, or slith, for his imba poison/acid resist? (with the ring,boots and leggs i have to switch-on i take very few dmg to even bother using a cure spell) If you're going for a singleton, then Slith is probably a better idea since they have an early pole bonus and fire resistance (which is really useful, say, in the Fang Clan crystal mine and whatnot). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 You can use either if you take advantage of the race's bonuses. Fast leveling up for nephils versus more health and resistances for sliths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 dark fenix: you know that you need to get those other statues to attack to that mad sentinel while you stay far enough? i say 1st aid is needed unless you have alot health+energy potions+elixirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Dark.Fenix Posted December 14, 2008 Author Share Posted December 14, 2008 thats the prime sentinel, im talking about the sentinel prototipe to the southeast thats available after u killed the prime. i got to tranquility with first aid at 5, after most fights it gave me 1-2 energy wich didnt had much impact sence i had to go back to town and restore anyway :S, of course if u invest a lot of skills in it, it will pay off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 First Aid is useless for a singleton since you can't afford to waste skill points building it up to a useful level. There are enough potions and elixirs in the game with you making more at the end. Some things like the sentinel prototype are easier to do later in the game when you can take the damage. A single character can't do things in the same order as a party of 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Earth Posted December 14, 2008 Share Posted December 14, 2008 oh that stupid machine. i had probs with it even i had good team due it freezes melee-attackers and bows weren't that good at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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