Garrulous Glaahk Groovejet Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I've read that you can join loyalists first, then awakened and finally that barzites. Also, where can I join the loyalists? Zakary doesn't seem to mention anything about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Eugi Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Same question from me but about GF1. Can you join and leave each sect in turn? (if you have enough leadership to make sure none of the join quests conflict, for example, and say enough of the "right things") Also, can you rejoin a sect after leaving it? {{{{POSSIBLE SPOILER BELOW}}}} I also believe that in GF1 you can finish the game without aligning yourself in either sect and either using or not using the Geneforge, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Eugi:I also believe that in GF1 you can finish the game without aligning yourself in either sect and either using or not using the Geneforge, right? Yep. All you have to do is get to a boat so you can get off the island. You'll want to do something about the Geneforge situation if you want a good ending, though. Anyway, it is indeed possible to join and leave multiple sects in the course of a single game. It requires you to manage your reputation and quests carefully, of course -- if you kill the Awakened leader for the Takers, you obviously won't be able to join the Awakened later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Also Learned Darien can help you get into a sect when your replies push you too far to normally get in on reputation or leadership alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Understated Ur-Drakon Sudanna Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 And you can't join more than one sect at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Xaiya Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 You can't in Geneforge 1 (at once) because you can't be with the obeyers and Awakened/Takers, and the Takers requier you to kill the Awakened leader (to join). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Lilith Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Infernal Flamming Muffin:You can't in Geneforge 1 (at once) because you can't be with the obeyers and Awakened/Takers, and the Takers requier you to kill the Awakened leader (to join). Not true. You can get in without killing him if you have 12 Leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Archaeolagent Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 You can never be in more than one sect at the same time, in G1 or G2, regardless of conditions needed to join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotghroth Rhapsody We Didn't Shard of Fire Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Yes, but in G1 you can join the Obeyers first (feed Control 4[?]), then join the Awakened (kill Control 4), then join the Takers (kill Ellhrah), reaping the benefits of each group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Leftover Sauerkraut Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 I seem to recall that I joined the Awakened, then the Takers, then the Barzites then the shapers to reap benefits. You can join the Awakened first and learn stuff at the Magus Complex. By keeping your reputation pro-servile, you can join the takers and betray them. After that, use Learned Darian to push you reputation towards the Shapers. Join the Shapers, betray them and finally meet up with the Barzites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ineffable Wingbolt Aequitas Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Quote: Originally written by Eugi:Same question from me but about GF1. Can you join and leave each sect in turn? (if you have enough leadership to make sure none of the join quests conflict, for example, and say enough of the "right things") Also, can you rejoin a sect after leaving it? {{{{POSSIBLE SPOILER BELOW}}}} I also believe that in GF1 you can finish the game without aligning yourself in either sect and either using or not using the Geneforge, right? Certainly. But it is much more fun to become a God and exploit all of the servile saps to your ultimate, evil ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Eugi Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Question more about the Sholai then the sects. (For reference I first joined the Awakened, killed Control 4 and felt horrible for doing so, then joined the Obeyers and talked myself out of the quest. Finally joined the Takers and happily killed ALL of the Awakened as revenge for making me kill that innocent Servant Mind. I've also fed Control 2 instead of killing it, Shaped Shield be damned!) So right now I'm curising along with the Taker Ammulet and meeting lots of friendly Sholai. Well, that's no fun! I want to kill them all for fun and profit! The problem is that killing the friendly Sholai in one area makes them ALL hostile (tested this a bit). There IS one point in the game where I actually lose the special item Amulet though... Would this make it possible for me to kill as many of Trajkov's Sholai as I can without repercussions? For the end I'd like to deal with Trajkov a bit, take a dip in the Geneforge and then screw everyone totally over. Suggestions appreciated! (Oh and I'd kill all these Sholai after finishing with Trajkov but by then they'd give no exp ). P.S: I haven't and don't plan on killing the "rebel" Sholai. They seem like nice people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 You can wipe out the other Sholai and still deal with Trajkov. I'm not sure what would happen to your alliance with the Takers if you did so, though. You won't miss out on much overall experience to kill the Sholai at the end, since many things stop giving you experience by the endgame anyway. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Eugi Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 When I attack the Sholai the Taker's Amulet becomes a Tarnished Amulet. I don't know if I can change it back by using an item editor or an in-game process. Also, I don't know if it becoming Tarnished effects my relationship with the Takers. I'm thinking that I'll wait till Crossroads and have my Amulet "stolen". Then do a test run by killing some Sholai, recovering the Amulet and seeing how other Sholai, the Takers and (if I have found him by that point) Trajkov react. If all goes well this will enable me to kill all the patrolling Sholai for fun and profit. Also, is there a way to leave a sect other than joining another sect? I'm thinking of eventually either upsetting or killing off all the Takers (where you get the "they hate you now" message). Would that still count me as being part of the Takers or now being independant? Does the ending even reflect when you've slaughtered an entire sect? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Zeviz's special item editor should allow you to switch between the amulet and the tarnished amulet. Presumably, making a sect hate you and/or killing its leader will end your alliance with them. Killing Trajkov will make the Takers hostile to you, at least. I have never tried it though. The ending will change if you kill the leader of a sect, but it won't recognize that you've killed off everyone else. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Eugi Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Posting here to avoid spamming new threads. What's up with the "great secret" of GF1? And I don't mean the revelation regarding the Shapers, I mean the thing in Drayk's vale. MattP's hint sucks and I'm either doing something wrong or not getting lucky enough to get a drop. Namely I'm touching the southernmost stone pillar, getting the "tingling sensation", moving clockwise around the outer perimeter of the map and touching the piller again only to "feel nothing". What gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Student of Trinity Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Haven't you seen a few more of those tingly pillars in other places? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgeoning Battle Gamma Eugi Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Only in Drayk's Vale and Ancient Crypt from what I can recall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 There are several more out there, and you won't be able to solve the "great secret" without finding and touching them all in the right order. Dikiyoba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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