Garrulous Glaahk MrRoivas Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I think we all remember the supposed villian of them all, the leader of the Sholhia. He must of been one of the most ethical people on the planet before he took canisters, because, even when he used the Geneforge, he retained humanity. Thats something your personal character couldn't manage. And Gottesch was a bastard even with just canisters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 First of all, his name is Trajkov of the Sholai. Second, yes, he probably was a good type of person before he found the canisters and the Geneforge. How you deal with Trajkov relates to your ethics. Dikiyoba was disappointed the first time Dikiyoba's character used the Geneforge. Dikiyoba made the mistake of clearing out every other section beforehand so there was no one left to pummel with the new-found abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easygoing Eyebeast Zeviz Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 It could also be a sign of genetic differencies between Shloai and Shapers. From what I understood, Shapers are at least a different ethnicity from other humans, and Shloai are yet another ethnicity, so perhaps canisters have more side-effects for them than for Shloai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk The Ripper Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 There may not be such a connection. If the geneforge works just like the canisters, then it reacts differently with different people, but there's no evidence that how "moral" they are has any effect on this. I always believed it was physiological. Some people just don't have strong enough genes it takes to absorb the power without the bad side effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnificent Ornk Dikiyoba Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Originally by Zeviz: Quote: From what I understood, Shapers are at least a different ethnicity from other humans, Probably not. The games always start you off as an apprentice who has only been recently selected to become a Shaper after years of hard work and study. To me, that makes it sound like Shapers and everyone else (besides the Sholai) are the same race. Besides, there don't seem to be enough married or dating Shapers (or young Shaper children, for that matter) to maintain themselves as a distinct race. Originally by The Ripper: Quote: If the geneforge works just like the canisters, then it reacts differently with different people, but there's no evidence that how "moral" they are has any effect on this. Dikiyoba thinks that perhaps retaining self-control is less about morals and more about willpower. Trajkov had just enough willpower to remain himself after using the Geneforge and also had enough morals to make a decent leader, but the two may or may not be related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Bomber Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Its possible that the reason why they lose most of their emotions is because they take to much power at once rather than taking it slowly and giving time for their bodies to ajust to the changes the geneforge made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Nick Ringer Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Maxmillion:And Gottesch was a bastard even with just canisters. Did he use canisters? I recall him wanting to use the Geneforge, but I don't remember any mention of canisters. If someone finds discarded canister husks in his temple, let me know. Quote: Originally written by The Ripper:I always believed it was physiological. Some people just don't have strong enough genes it takes to absorb the power without the bad side effects. Hooray, for I agree. The canisters alter your DNA. The human genome has some huge number of sequences -- in the millions I think -- so the number altered or the importance of those changed seem to vary not only from person to person, but from canister to canister. Example 1: Geneforge 2 had a crazed Guardian-wannabe in Rising whose use of the canisters made him violent and confused. Example 2: Geneforge 3 included the use of three canisters by the leader of the Besieged Camp on the Isle of Spears; they only made him feel warm, he said, but the third one gave him flaking skin. Quote: Originally written by Zeviz:... From what I understood, Shapers are at least a different ethnicity from other humans, and Shloai are yet another ethnicity ... See the other thread concerning just that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well-Actually War Trall Dolphin Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 Quote: Originally written by Nick Ringer: Quote: Originally written by Maxmillion:And Gottesch was a bastard even with just canisters. Did he use canisters? I recall him wanting to use the Geneforge, but I don't remember any mention of canisters. If someone finds discarded canister husks in his temple, let me know. There is a couple by the south entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Xoid Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 I'm certain that Gottesch used canisters. It says it in his description, he says it himself, and there are plenty of used canisters littered throughout the temple he took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Dallerdin with a custom moniker. Posted April 16, 2006 Share Posted April 16, 2006 It's been a while since I last played, but wasn't Gottesch (gee, that's a hell of a name to spell) displaying most of the effects of having used canisters anyway - in particular, the telltale glowing skin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk MrRoivas Posted April 16, 2006 Author Share Posted April 16, 2006 Quote: It's been a while since I last played, but wasn't Gottesch (gee, that's a hell of a name to spell) displaying most of the effects of having used canisters anyway - in particular, the telltale glowing skin? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Nick Ringer Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Also, he wanted badly to use the Geneforge ... Trajkov was one of the game's most interesting characters. I wouldn't mind playing as Trajkov or one of his shipmates in a prequel. It'd be cool, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrulous Glaahk Shaper Anton Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 OH YEAH, Coz HE IS SO POWERFUL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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