Chittering Clawbug Traute Springer-Yakar Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Does Erica really offer training in Arcane Lore and Spellcraft? Or do I have to complete one of her quests before she does? So far I can only buy spells which cost less at the Freehold of Kyass? Or did I miss any option offered in the dialogue?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unflappable Drayk Edgwyn Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Erika does, but I think that you have to either have a higher reputation or do some quests first before she offers the training, but I cannot remember which for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Traute Springer-Yakar Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 34 minutes ago, Edgwyn said: Erika does, but I think that you have to either have a higher reputation or do some quests first before she offers the training, but I cannot remember which for sure. Then it must be the quest, as my reputation is at 43 legendary. Pity. Who needs Arcane Lore or Spellcraft advanced after killing Hawthorne??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Traute Springer-Yakar Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 My singleton has found the way to the surface and has also slewn Hawthorne, but I still don't get the option for Erika to teach AL. Or do I have to kill Grah Hoth, too? I purposely saved Grah Hoth until now to let those poor people at Fort Remote enjoy life a little longer. I'm off to give Micah the good news about Sss-Thsss's demise just now. Any suggestions? I don't really need any more AL at this point, my char is lvl 49 and has all the spells she needs, but I was aiming for the spell medals..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Hi Traute, I merged your new topic with this one because it's exactly the same question. (A lot of these questions could possibly go in one big topic anyway, but 2 topics for the same question is probably overkill.) Is it possible there's a dialogue option you just haven't seen? It looks like Erika has the same requirements for teaching spells as for teaching skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Traute Springer-Yakar Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 Last time I was advised to wait until one or two of the final quests were completed. After completing them I still only get the option to use her library and a list of spells to learn. I knew that Arcane Lore oder Cloak of the Arcane or Arcane Blow all look similar so I read this list slowly and very carefully. I don't think I missed the offer to buy Arcane Lore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 EDIT: Whoops. Nothing to see here :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Traute Springer-Yakar Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 Or maybe I THOUGHT Arcane Lore training would be a reward, I don't recall. The only option concerning training I get is "I could use training in the magical arts." Reply: "Very well, I am adept in all the magical realms. If you wish to learn some incantations, I can teach you, for a price. I know certain spells that are beyond the reach of most, and my libraries are open to you. .... and some remarks concerning her tower, to return safely." Then there are two dialogue options: "What spells can you teach me?" followed by a list, and "Where is your library?" Same options before, during and after the Hawthorne and surface quests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 ...okay, so this is extremely weird. I didn't have AEFTP installed on this computer, so I downloaded it again and looked at the scripts. Erika indeed does not have a dialogue option for training skills, at all, just as Traute has discovered. However, there's lots of documentation from the game's release of people saying she did. Synergy, Randomizer and myself all put it in our lists and guides, it's on the AEFTP Annotated Maps, and there's casual discussion of it on the forums as well. We paid a lot of attention to trainers on release because in the initial Mac version (remember when the Mac version always came out first? nostalgia!) training the second level cost double price, and it was harder to afford everything... so I really don't think that was just a propagated mistake. Erika is the only trainer for some of those skills, so it would be a really strange communal error; we'd have had to invent prices for them out of thin air and everything. Notably, Nlambert also has it in their index... which was posted in 2018! So if it was (inadvertantly?) removed in some version upgrade, it has to have been in the last 6 years... or possibly it was simply never in certain versions to begin with? Either one is weird. The file in question (t66ErikasTowerdlg.txt) has a last modified date of November 14, 2011, which is shortly before the game was released. So it wasn't changed later, though maybe an older version was mistakenly packaged in at some point? I dunno. This whole thing is weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Jawaj Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 (edited) I've actually just been playing through EFtP and Erika definitely has skills in her dialog tree. IIRC there is some precondition - it might have been joining the Scimitar. I just checked and I have v1.01. It's direct download instead of Steam, if that matters. I'll get a couple screencaps later. EDIT: ok I just looked in-game and the skills are listed in the same place as spells and you have to scroll down. This is probably the source of confusion. Couldn't get embedding to work but: https://i.imgur.com/b4nxH9R.png Edited March 25 by Jawaj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Traute Springer-Yakar Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 I bought mine in Dec 2023 through Humble Bundle, I've no idea which version. And Erika definitely has just the dialogue options I copied in my last post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Jawaj Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Try scrolling down on the spell list in your copy and see what you find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Slawbug Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Oh huh, crazy. Bad memory on the separate interfaces I guess. Traute -- you can't scroll down to see more skills to buy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchling Cockatrice Randomizer Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 I checked on v1.0.2 The teach spell list has when you scroll to the bottom, Aecane Lore, Spellcraft, and Magical Efficiency below the spell list. I haven't seen the game in over 10 years and forgot that it has a combined list instead of two separate training windows. So the script doesn't have a second section for skills when you train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Traute Springer-Yakar Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 OK I shall try. I'm just round the corner, so to speak, about to finish the Ruined Fort. Thanks to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chittering Clawbug Traute Springer-Yakar Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 Yes, it does. How many times I forgot to scroll down missing for instance the Tinker's Bauble - and it still happens again. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyshakk Koan Jawaj Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 It is quite an odd UI quirk, because in some other cases the spell lists (not even including skills) are split between different dialog options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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